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The thing about Dr -> Draconian is that the quoted advantage (Dragon Form becomes better) only starts to matter well after the game is 'beaten'. I guess it depends on what you're optimizing for, though (win rate or strength of final character) To be fair, that's only one of their several advantages...

Alternatively, play a formicid and dig a v into the wall. Forces everything to fight you in melee, one at a time.

From what I hear, Dex starts to have diminishing returns after 24. I have a HaGl that's going to hit the 24 dex mark with passive dex gain, and I'm wondering if I should switch to str, or just keep maxing that dex? Or maybe int? (I'm not casting anything atm, and don't plan to for quite a while, but...

Playing an ogre hunter, and got a steam dragon hide just as I reached the lair. Is it worth me dumping my 3 enchant armor scrolls onto a steam dragon hide, or should I stick with my +2 robe till I find a better hide? Things to consider: Worshipping okawaru, but haven't gotten to gift piety yet. I am...

Exactly that, damiac, I want to make a build that's based around enhancer staff melee, and probably relying on Evocations to branch out my damage options a bit. I suppose I'd probably be better off just being a gargoyle. (looking at it more closely, much better off) edit: Also, I much prefer startin...

So it sounds like it would be worth it* for this specific build I'm toying with, but I'd still be better off just picking a race with a better staff apt.

*Obviously not optimal, but better than training staves alone

Thanks for the replies, everyone.

Merfolk have +4 Polearms and -2 staves. If I wanted to make a staff using merfolk, would it use less xp to level polearms, then train staves with the cross-train bonus, or just level staves by itself?

I ended up deciding to hop into a ziggurat and found an acquirement scroll. Picked jewelry and got my rMut ammy. : )

Breezed through the Tomb. Definitely hit my massive curing stockpile, but otherwise wasn't as bad as I expected. Found an artifact ring to cover my rC deficiency, and finally got a spellbook with summon butterflies in it. I don't really want to switch gods, because I have zero rN without TSO. (now t...

I have a FoFi of TSO that's getting ready for extended, but hasn't found any rMut anywhere. The normal branches are fully cleared, and I just started poking into Zot, but ran into a couple orbs of fire and got a (minor) malmute. Was wondering if I should keep plowing through zot to try and find an r...

OP needs to be updated to include Vine Stalkers and Formicids. Pretty please with sugar ontop?

Getting a little catty in here, isn't it? There's nothing wrong with EV builds, and there's nothing wrong with AC builds. Both have advantages, and disadvantages. Trying to tell people that they should always upgrade to heavier armor isn't helpful, and neither is pretending that mages always have to...

As a person who primarily plays heavy armor melee characters, Swamp is definitely the easiest branch for me, and Shoals is definitely the most difficult. Snake and Spiders are a wash in between swamp and shoals. I generally prefer snake just because of the slow movement speed of nagas. P.S. I find i...

One of the tricks to getting a MuWz past level 1 is to remember that you have 2 million turns to beat the game in. There's no rush. Until you get shot by a d:1 centaur warrior after 4000 turns due to OOD generation If it takes you 4000 turns to beat the few enemies needed to hit level 2 and get OP ...

One of the tricks to getting a MuWz past level 1 is to remember that you have 2 million turns to beat the game in. There's no rush. If you miscasted and ran out of mana, run around a pillar till your regen your hp and mp to max and try again. A hobgoblin will never catch you, so you shouldn't die to...

3 rune is "normal" because that's what people call it. Personally, I play every character intending to do extended. Problem is, if people use the same word to mean different things, then the word is less usefull, which is why we call 15 rune games "extended." If you don't like 3 ...

Does a character's regeneration rate determine how fast they recover stats? My current TrMo has level 2 degeneration mutation. ("Your body is deteriorating.") The wiki told me that this will eventually result in stat zero, but it seems that my troll has recovered all his stats back to full...

I didn't realize that redbacks could two shot me via poison. Ran into a pair of them and forgot that my rPois was on my other weapon.

Thanks for the tips, everybody. Updates: I finally got haste from sif, and trained up charms to be able to use it easily. Pushed my fighting and dodging both up to 11. Got invo to 8, for slightly better channeling. (I seem to be leaning on that ability really heavily) Finished off the Lair. Was the ...

On the subject of dodging, a shop has a book with phase shift in it. Would it be a good idea to skimp on dodging for translocations and phase shift, or is the dodging skill the better way to go? (actually I want to say that phase shift would already be comfortably castable, so this might be a moot q...

Important points: -Started AE, got flight, swiftness, reflect missiles. -Matured into grey draconian. Halted Air magic, trained up Earth. -Grabbed iron shot and stoneskin. -Cranked up my Conjurations. -Suffering from lack of AoE spells, I grabbed Lightning Bolt. (unfortunately sif wasn't giving me a...

Ah, so I see. I've since found the unrand Demon blade Leech, so I've dumped Schadizzy, but my fingernails finally grew out to claws, so I can't use the gloves anymore either. Well, at least I still have the resist fire ring, so I can maintain a single pip of rf.

+9 +9 Falchion of Schadiz, Freezing, *Tele, rElec, rF++, rC++, rN+, Dex+3 (hereafter known as Schadizzy) Schadizzy was found on level 1 of the Lair. I'm wondering if Schadizzy will be strong enough for extended game, or if it'll just be a resistance stick. Keep in mind, that I'm a Monsterous Demonsp...

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Re: What's a good transmuter race?

Re: How do I deal with Smiteing

Dex Diminishing Returns

Ogre with Steam Dragon Armor?

Re: Merfolk Cross Training

Re: Merfolk Cross Training

Merfolk Cross Training

Re: Looking for Mutation Resitance

Re: Looking for Mutation Resitance

Looking for Mutation Resitance

Re: Complete list of species/class abbreviations

Re: Shoals vs. Swamps

Re: Shoals vs. Swamps

Re: playing MuWz

Re: playing MuWz

Re: How many runes are normal? What is "normal" anyway?

Regeneration vs. Stat Loss?

Re: CIP->YASD DrAE with Staff of Earth Questions

Re: CIP DrAE with Staff of Earth Questions

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CIP->YASD DrAE with Staff of Earth Questions

Re: CIP DsFi All Hail Schadizzy!

CIP->YASD DsFi Don't Play While Tired.