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I'm pretty sure I need a melee skill. I haven't really had to choose one yet. This +9 dagger, 30 Str, and a +6 slaying armor was enough to knock down death yaks at 0 skill. But now it's time for Lair branches. These dang merfolk don't want to just stand under a freezing cloud. They're getting a litt...

I'm really loving Poisonous Vapours in trunk right now, and it got me thinking about a top-tier poison spell. I propose a L7/L8/L9 Poison spell, "Olgreb's Hideous Nerve Gas". On casting, it affects all monsters in line of sight. Monsters with poison immunity and blindness immunity are not ...

Vampire is one if my favorites, and I've won a good handful of 3-, 4-, and 5-rune games. The recipe is: Sif Muna. Channeling is "free", and you should use the heck out of it, especially by sleeping/confusing a monster at a chokepoint to pause your fight. Give the rest of the crowd the fing...

Drowning.

Every time I'm in deep water, constricting an enemy on land, how I wish, how I long for the ability... to drag the monster in with me.

Confusion-drowning is fun, but drag-drowning? Oh my goodness.

That sounds outrageously difficult; well done!

25 EV is appallingly low? I... really?

So this character is a real killer. I'm about to do Vaults:5 and haven't even used Slouch yet. (I also only used Step From Time once, and that was just a careless keypress.) Got a +12 plate with rF+ before entering Lair. Feeling good. I got my +12 demon trident of freezing on Orc:2. It's -Tele, but ...

Cast Controlled Blink.... once. Nice.

For now I have some doubts regarding my god. He has not given me any gifts and I don't understand how to utilize piety properly Yep, you're skipping Ashenzari's best part. When you wear cursed gear, two things happen: First, you get to identify every other piece of gear of that type. Wear a cursed ...

Ach! I tried to cut out the boring parts, and instead I cut out the only interesting part!

80711 | Snake:3 | Identified the cursed -3 crystal plate armour "Idaa" {Int+3} (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Snake Pit)

tinyboss wrote:First win! In fact, first time to even see a rune, master a skill, reach XL27

Well done! That's a lot of firsts.

Well, that was fun. I got a Hell rune, I got a Pan rune, I got the Abyssal rune, did a whole ziggurat... Staff of Earth is viable, but not overwhelming. Think I'll go back to trying to win my first Octopode. :) 94k turns and 10 hours... I gather that's fairly slow on both counts? Dungeon Crawl Stone...

Wait a second. Switching to that plate wrecks my spell success for Shatter.

Back to Quicksilver DA, I guess.

I finished my ziggurat. Just got the demonic rune from the Holy Pan floor, now I'm hunting the rest. With adequate offensive power and QUITE adequate defenses, now it's just a matter of not getting complacent, I think. Fun game. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16.2 (console) character file. Tatar...

Thanks, all. I skipped the armour in question. Would have taken more than all the gold I had at the time (that changed when I found a neat, new-to-me Gozag altar vault on U:5 with three shops and about 3,000 gold on the ground). I maybe should have said at the beginning that my goal with the charact...

So there's a randart (antique, unidentified) Crystal Plate Armour in a shop. Right now I've just got a Robe of Archmagi. 33 AC including Stoneskin feels like enough, but can you ever REALLY have enough AC? If I bought it and wore it, would I still be able to cast LRD? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup versio...

le_nerd wrote:one could always try !lignification, it grants torment immunity.

Killing some of those mummies summons reapers, doesn't it? Seems like a good way to get reaped.

Nice! Sounds like a blast.

That's wonderful and terrible at the same time. :lol: Do you have any sense whether this would be feasible with a vampire? Vampires ALSO don't starve waiting for 400,000 turns... but perhaps not being able to flee and recover, that would be a barrier? (You know what I mean. You can flee, but you can...

No, I mean living salamanders. Available to enslave.

You only get to have one enslaved soul at a time, so taking one if them would mean letting SR go.

I've got a potential first Octopode winner underway. (Fighter ^Yredelemnul) I just enslaved Saint Roka. He's got a bardiche of protection and a chain mail. If I'm careful, he can probably roll right through the end with me. On the other hand, I've got some slamander mystics around. They could haste ...

I tried the guide that I just read about going Gladiator->quarterstaff->lajatang->staff of earth. The components fell into place to skip lajatang with this character, and staff of earth was getting VERY effective. But carelessness did me in again. Planned on putting on the ring of rC when I saw some...

It seems like Sif Muna is where all the attention is lately, and it seems that Sif is known as bland. For a new power, one that you can't get anywhere else, perhaps Sif could allow you to store a spell for later. Like Delayed Fireball, but anything you like. Right now, all Sif gives you is abundance...

This character is feeling very, very promising. Thank goodnes for an early !Mut giving "You evolve". Who needs Jiyva when you can randomly roll a set like this? Anyhow, question: Would you take this shield, The -2 large shield of the Ward (worn) {rN+ MR+ Regen+ Str-3 Stlth-} (Okawaru gifte...

Also, does Ashenzari's clarity prevent berserkitis? I got the mutation very early on, and I don't think it's gone off a single time.

I had a fun run with a demonspawn a few days ago- creating both pestilence and freezing on hit, plenty of resists, just everything you could wish for. Splatted in a zig that I shouldn't have attempted yet. This character is not going as effortlessly. I got two levels of nightstalker early on, so pic...

Title mostly says it all. Trog came through and gave me one of each lajatang, speed and antimagic.

Scrolls of enchant weapon have been scarce so far, so assuming I can't get both to +9, and assuming Trog's never going to drop an awesome artifact lajatang on me... which one do I enchant?

Thanks!

Also, you didn't ask about this, bit you might appreciate it anyway- enchanters can make excellent use of scrolls of immolation, by combining them with Enslavement. The opportunity comes up often in Orc, and it's just magnificently gratifying.

Yes, don't forget about nets! They're very effective on things that are not huge (things like liches and deep elves, which are inconveniently resistant to confusion and the rest). I haven't used petrify much, but I believe its uses are 1. blocking hallways for your escape and 2. making fleshy enemie...

Congratulations! 25371 | Lair:7 | XOM: potion effect (experience) Now that's pretty sweet. I thought Xom was a challenge god, for when you've gotten bored winning with the regular gods. But it seems like there have been a few recent posts about playing Xom seriously, so maybe I should give it a shot.

1-handed polearms (preferably artefacts with resists or sinv etc, or demon tridents). Monsters with good base damage are actually stronger with spears than halberds or bardiches, not to mention the shield. Wow, that's counterintuitive. Good to know! There are a couple randart tridents around, so I'...

So the ability to give followers something is neat. I mean, the one-time-only business is patently silly, but I'm ok with that. The question, though, is what's the best way to keep them alive? You only get to give them one gift each. Gotta make it count. Large shields? (Haven't actually found any in...

I guess it's called Raster Font 12x16?

Why was the amulet of resist mutation better than the other? Because even as extremely stealthy character of Chei it is relatively easy to get this: berserk 1, deterioration 1, dopey 1, frail 1, screaming 2, slow healing 1, weak 1 Yes, Chei does make it much harder to position yourself so as to avo...

spanner wrote:I believe Pan is a one way trip, but can I dip into Hells and run away if I can't cope?

Close but not quite- there are frequent portals where you can bail into the abyss. Then you've got to find the exit portal there.

Thanks, Tas. Funny how different players approach the game differently!
This was lots of fun.

FIFTEEN RUNES! Thanks guys; your advice was indispensable! First fifteen-rune win. That was a blast, starting in the first ziggurat. Didn't need Chain Lightning or Tornado, but why not? Gotta put the experience somewhere. Got cocky and careless and had a close call on Zot:5, down to 2hp. But Step F...

I would wear rMut amulet by default for the character. Thanks, Sandman! I'm not sure which game taught me that an artefact with multiple properties must be better than a plain item with one property, but I sure have a hard time shaking that. But I know how to follow advice, so I did as instructed, ...

Feels like this could be my first 15-rune winner. I got toe-to-toe with Dispater, but had to back off. Four runes now. Still no Blade Hands or Statue Form. :x How would you handle this selection of armour and jewelry? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15.0 (console) character file. Scoop the Grand ...

You seem to be generally on the right track and probably know most of this, but here's some possibly redundant info :) <...> Acquirement targets on nagas of chei are 1) wands for heal wounds 2) armor to get a barding. <...> Remember you only need 15 skill for it because you're a large race in regar...

Congratulations! Gotta be a good feeling, first 15-runes. I'm not there yet. How long ago was your first 3-rune win?

Sar wrote:why are you naked
it's gross
(putting your default set of equipment on would make evaluating your equipment choices and defenses much easier)

Heck, you're right. Got mixed up in all the shuffling to get the three dumps. Give me a minute here.

Edit: Ok, fixed now.

This character got off to an exceptionally lucky start, with the +5 ring of slaying and a naga barding on the first couple levels. Not too long after that, a potion of experience (put it half-and-half into Invocations and Stealth). Then TWO wands of Heal Wounds. Two scrolls of acquirement have been ...

Ring mail is ok, it does not decrease stealth that much (by an equivalent of about 2 levels in Stealth) http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Stealth#Negative_Factors Probably main reason is that you were unlucky and had no invisibility before XL 19 if I am reading the morgue file right. Before that, I had a...

5 nets do not last very long... how did you manage to use them until end game? They're destroyed when something breaks out of them, but retained if you kill what's inside. Ideal for stabbing, right? I didn't make any effort to be stingy with them. I just picked up all I found, threw them 68 times, ...

Good morning! I thought I'd share a few thoughts. So this was my first win with a stabber, even though I've been playing since .9 and VpEn is my very favorite combination. (Carpet bombing Orc:4 with scroll of immolation and enslavement makes me positively giddy. And flying out over the sea to dice a...

I appreciate the advice, guys! Got five runes, but got in over my head in Pan. :( Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2820-gd1528c4 (console) character file. 697404 Plan View the Phalangite (level 27, -4/196 (197) HPs) Began as a Formicid Fighter on Apr 9, 2014. Was the Champion of Cheibriados....

bardiche bardiche imho the bardiche is a pretty clear winner here. I'd miss all the free resists, but it's up to your armor to provide the resists most of the time, and you'll have to manage that way. With 20 skill in polearms it's safe to use the bardiche immediately, but get it to 26 quickly. You...

Also, this will make you laugh. In my last thread about switching from Yredelemnul toward the end of the game, it was recommended rather strongly to me that I train skills manually. So this game, I said, "Manual skilling from the start!" And it went well enough. Then I realized after Orc:4...

Hi! This is a pretty promising character, but I'm at a spot where I need to make a weapon decision. In a nutshell, I've got a weak trident with all the resists I need, the Glaive of Prune, or an electric bardiche. Here's each: - a - the +7,+8 trident of Dominance (weapon) {flame, rElec rC++ rN+ Int+...

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