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# TASONIR Is there regeneration in heaven

right?

In 0.25, Okawaru is the only god remaining that gifts ammo. For bows, crossbows, and large rocks there is sufficient ammo on the floor to (eventually) adopt a hunter lifestyle at all ranges. This is not the case for sling bullets and javelins and darts, sometimes even if Shoals spawns, though there...

An extremely poorly reasoned post, so much so that even addressing it in a serious way would be ridiculous, but the general idea that the XP penalty for damage dealt by allies is unnecessary and bad is correct. The problem is that the mechanics of allies break the game, both in terms of usability a...

I think it would be better to remove plain orcs and orc wizards from any orc band that places later than, say, D:8. These monsters simply aren't threatening past that point. Orc priests are kind of suspect as well but at least they can smite. Imo removing nonthreatening monsters is better than maki...

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So we're just gonna let that one slide?

I really like shafts, think they make the game far more interesting, and would like to see more of 'em.

Yeah, that was fun.

I feel like I should've tried for a 15 rune win at some point.

Nah, you had a really high percentage of solid games. " 124722 Minotaur Fighter Okawaru Warrior Swamp:1 annihilated by a tyrant leech 16 30621 2:15:44 2019-10-31 23:23:48 2 60014 Minotaur Monk Okawaru Fighter D:12 blasted by a necromancer (bolt of fire) 14 21959 1:13:06 2019-11-02 18:35:20"...

Hey, 3 wins! I don't know what's going on, I am usually not this good. I am a little scared.

Cool!

I am in Vaults with a ghoul IE of Ru, but feel really weak for this stage in the game. Can't see how I get another rune without splatting.

Being part of a clan in fun! If I'm reading this right we got two guys in extended? Yeah! Go team! 1:10:32 ago: sunspire the Minotaur Barricade (L27 MiFi of Okawaru) left Gehenna. (Hell, turn 70855, dur 9:52:09, cao) 22:01:20 ago: mopl the Wrestler (L25 TrWr of Qazlal) entered the Abyss! (Depths:4, ...

Cool. As of last night I was 204th in total points, but (tied for) 3rd in most species/class high scores. (The trick is to die a lot and not waste time winning.)

Yeah, cool, I'm in. I currently have 5 runes starting Zot, so I miiiiigggghhht win 1.

duvessa wrote: elyvilon_altar_4 could use an allied butterfly instead of a good_neutral quokka..

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Proposal to rename this thread "Fun, Joy, Bad"

Stop playing octopodes.

Although Dungeon Crawl is designed to make grinding difficult/impossible - You are always in a situation that CAN kill you, especially as a newer player. So grinding just for the sake of leveling up to make Zot easier isn't worth the risk. Also - Pan ,Abyss, and ESPECIALLY, slime can malmutate you l...

Ok. What's the argument here beyond "This would make the game easier. It would be nice if the game was easier!" As the first post noted, some Demonspawn mutations are better than others - And I'd further add that some mutations are actively dis-advantageous to some builds. Counterpoint: Go...

Two things: Nagas are really, really, really bad starting out. Just so bad. Mummies are supposedly a "bad" race, but they are infinity billion percent better than nagas until lair. I mean eventually you are tabbing through vaults with 50 AC and 200 hit points so they do *get* good, but nag...

But all the other food items were removed which results in *a* *lot* less food in the game, maybe? Anyway, I suspect that it's likely that food has become a much, much, much larger survival issue for Spriggans. (I also had a Baracchian Wanderer who died, fainting, while he was wildly diving for food...

Here's another (winning) morgue from a Spriggan Hunter. It took them 68 rations, and they said they were using 3 rations on every depths level (And note only Level 24 at the end game, so playing much, much faster than average.) Said if they wouldn't have found a food shop they would have been in ser...

Ok. I got killed pretty much immediately on Snake:1 looking for food. I guess I might have just been really unlucky with food in late dungeon and lair? Or maybe I actually do have to play a little more aggressively over all with Spriggans instead of kiting *everything* (Which wouldn't be a terrible ...

So I have been scraping and scrabbling to get enough food so that I don't die. Right now I am down to one ration and I'm hungry. I have berserkitis but I'm a range fighter so it doesn't come up that often. This has never happened before with a Spriggan. ( I did use 4 rations evolving plants, once on...

crawlnoob wrote:No seriously, why can't mummies transmute?

This bugs me too.

Is there a homebrew fork without the silly transumtation/berserk limitations on undead? I would play the hell outta that.

Well, it already does this for Gozag characters and it makes them completely confusing and unplayable...

wait, what's that? It doesn't make them unmanageble? It just makes them slightly more convenient?

Huh. Imagine that.

Having apocalypse at 5* is good because it's often hard to pick the best low-yield sacrifice to get the last pip. So being able to refuse a couple of sacrifices and not be hurting is a good thing. IMO that makes the last pip of Ru into a series of boring non-decisions. Ru becomes vastly less-intere...

Yeah, I could see slime being doable. And I'm not sure that tomb would be much harder because you're immediately mobbed anyway. I count luckily not getting banished at all as the major reason I won this one. Hell would be tough and super tedious... But I'd think pan would be the worst. You're basica...

Having apocalypse at 5* is good because it's often hard to pick the best low-yield sacrifice to get the last pip. So being able to refuse a couple of sacrifices and not be hurting is a good thing. IMO that makes the last pip of Ru into a series of boring non-decisions. Ru becomes vastly less-intere...

And, hey! Streaked Mummy Wanderers of either Qazal or Ru (whichever came first!) I lost my first *counts* 77 attempts and probably another 20 online, but 98th and 99th time were both the charm! Never won with a crossbow user before, and this was my earliest heavily armored spellcaster win. (And it D...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1 (tiles) character file. 1466178 Aghbutt the Slayer (level 27, 244/244 HPs) Began as a Mummy Wanderer on Oct 5, 2017. Was the Champion of Qazlal. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on Oct 17, 2017! The game lasted 05:46:24 (120832 turns). Aghbutt the Slayer ...

Yeah, it would be a great spell if your level 4 spell in the same book didn't do the same thing way better.

I guess there might be some circumstances where you want to save 2 spell points.

Mummies have a decent early game. You have average hit points and no armor limitations, and a ton of useful resistances that more than make up for fire vulnerability. (Once you're far enough along that an average character would have several potions identified.. .well, then you start to slack off, r...

You waste xp on magic that you don't need and you don't train core physical skills, like UC. In this game you also wasted xp on shields, a skill you would obviously get no use of for a long time, perhaps never if your endgame was blade hands (always a reasonable option). Not so reasonable on octopo...

There's no food in shops?

If you're casting tornado every fight, yeah, you're probably in trouble. Otherwise you should be fine.

The thing about the abyss is that once monsters START coming they just KEEP coming. So it seems very likely you'll end up surrounded by monsters at ** of piety and have to blow a teleport scroll.

Probably not worth it, IMO.

It is idiotic, but the second you end up in the abyss you have to use your god powers on the wall or something to get piety down to reduce noise. You just CAN NOT have more than *** piety in the abyss.... I generally try for *. This means you're doing the absyss as, basically, atheist. But this is f...

If you want to play a game where Qazlal is as good as this guy seems to think it is, try hellcrawl. It's still not actually good, but at least it's better than nothing. Qazlal is, if anything, relatively worse in hellcrawl because stair-dancing is not an option. The recent changes make it a lot mor...

6 tries later I got another rune! (3 of them died in lair, 1 in orc. I am glad I can semi-consistently make it to lair with mummy wanderer!) Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1 (tiles) character file. September16 the Spear-Bearer (Mummy Wanderer) Turns: 54812, Time: 02:14:40 Health: 99/110 AC: 2...

Well, earth elementals are immune to everything!

The others... I try to use elemental force when positioning isn't super important, and then blink immediately after using.

Summons are still useful under Qaz, just... less so than with any other character. (Except Ru with sacrifice love.)

Huh. Really? Elf 1 (at least) feels multiple orders of magnitude easier to me than vaults. I'm not sure that the enemies are easier, but terrain control and picking your fight is far easier in the Elven Hall's corrodors than in the relatively open vaults - you can pretty much always rig it so that o...

For the sake of winning, I would recommend just taking big sacrifices. The benefits are big. At the very least you want to get to Power Leap quite quickly. But they always kill me! (Although this guy died due to dancing weapons, which power leap takes care of very efficiently!) Iiiii also forgot th...

I quite like Elemental Force - But I never thought much about disaster area 'till this post. Go figure.

At 6 piety/10 invocations you can count on 3 elementals, which is really nice.

I was doing pretty good 'till Jory got me for 114 damage with crystal spear.

Huh. Ictopodes are my favorite species, but I've never won with an Octopode that wasn't Gozag. I want 8 artifact rings and I want them *now!* C'mon Jewelry Shop. And you have to figure in that your octopode is taking more damage but, due to constriction, he's also dealing way more damage than your h...

Still, it probably is confusing to show more than 4 pips.

I only did "." once! I had trouble counting how many actual turns it took for the contamination to go away when I used 5. There was always an alarm trap or something that screwed up my rest. What Ru sacrafices CAN I take safely on this guy? I was incredibly chuffed I get piety for "No...

I used invisibility once. It failed once and caught on the second try. After it wore off it took 139 presses of "." for the contamination to go away.

I'm walking my fragile little mummy wanderer around shoals, and I always want to be invisible. And I really want to win so I can stop playing Mummy Wanderers, and this is the best kit I've ever had on any of my mummies. But because of magical contamination I have to wait a long time between uses of ...

I keep getting sucky WN. Why would I get 2 levels of Spellcastingand Transmutation with 1 level of Air and no spell books? Ok, so I get a +2 shortbow and a shield I can't use it with so who cares, but still. And 1 lvl of bow, throwing and shields. These skills combinations are just so pointless. It...

So after trying and failing to get a good OpFi going, I wussed out and went Summoner. Early game was easy because of the mighty squid hugging power. For nastier enemies, hugs + rats did the trick. Found a shop that had a shiny buckler on D5, so that helped up the defenses. Wasn't sure what to do go...

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