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I'm trying out wiz mode a bit. My idea of having Lom inside the fog with you (only ~3x3 visible) was bad, since it's too close and the blasts hit you. Your tunneling approach as shown with Rupert works perfectly.

I seem to like Gozag more than many people on the forum, so I'll weigh in on his ranking. I haven't played 0.17. The only big change in the commits I see affecting early and mid game is nulling amulet of faith for Gozag, which is a definite nerf. Gold from corpseless enemies is a definite buff in ex...

The design goal behind ranged as I understand it is that it shouldn't, at least in the early game, be your only source of damage. If it were, it would just be better and more boring than melee because you can hit enemies from anywhere. Later, ammo stops mattering and ranged becomes melee where posi...

Don't forget that Fighting helps accuracy just as much as weapon skill does. If you have weapon skill at 10 and Fighting still at the starting value, you're doing it wrong. For a non-caster in the early game I generally have Fighting ~4 levels behind main weapon skill, varying based on aptitudes. D...

Every ranged-focused character I start is quickly forced to become melee-focused to survive. Does this only apply to bow/crossbow ranged-focused characters? There are so many rocks in the dungeon. I don't see how dedicated throwers/slingers can run out of ammo. It's true that I almost never use sli...

Every ranged-focused character I start is quickly forced to become melee-focused to survive. This is true but it's not so bad because you have ranged. For the encounters that don't matter, use melee, and for the ones that do, you'll generally have enough ammo to be fine. I can get through 3-5 runes...

you should consider going fedhas since he will give you free accuracy Do you mean Sunlight? I forgot about that. No piety cost, but you'd have to recast for an approaching target. The wiki says it has the same effect as Corona, so if that's true, the TSO halo would also probably be the same and non...

In the late game I've had a character use only a crossbow and be very effective. But in the early game, ranged combat seems more inaccurate than melee - maybe it just feels that way because you rapidly run out of projectiles. Every ranged-focused character I start is quickly forced to become melee-f...

Pollen_Golem wrote:
linear wrote:DD of Zin

Do you even realize what you're implying?

My Invo-focused Zin run was with HO. A DD pumping Invo with +3 aptitude would have lots of MP for HW wand recharging. I think that could work without Necromancy or vampiric weapons?

Lacuenta wrote:i can take them to Hell and back.

Unfortunately orc armies get decimated once you find enemies with Torment.

From the terrible character ideas thread: Troll of Gozag. I tried a few times to get a Vampire of Gozag off the ground, and it was terrible. You barely make money fast enough to call food shops if you take damage and need to rest. If you survive, you spend all your gold on food shops and don't get ...

This is a good observation. Ru's, Chei's, and Kiku's nukes hit each enemy only once. Have you tried using a scroll of fog to block LOS 3+ tiles away and blast a strong enemy 2 tiles away? You could also use lantern of shadows, darkness, nightstalker, etc.

Good to see this, because I was going to try a Glaciate character soon. Despite all the complaints on this forum, my impression is that it should do big damage at close range, even if it can't match the other level 9 spells. Pan Lords have hit me with it a couple times, and it hurts a lot. I guess i...

On a few characters I've found that in Vaults, Depths and even Zot I use Mephitic Cloud (MC) much more often than Poisonous Cloud (PC). Does anyone else do this? I did a search and saw that cloud spells have been somewhat controversial. Let's focus on just MC vs PC. Versus groups of enemies in the l...

Earlier this week I silence-stairdanced V5 entry. First time down I stabbed ~5 guys because the awake ones couldn't shout. At one point a vault warden came out just beyond the silence range and locked the stairs, but I used a few evoc summons to help kill him under silence. Two sleeping enemies a co...

Found Pikel, slaves, and a hound close by after traveling down a long corridor. Cause Fear worked on Pikel, the hound, and 2 of the 3 slaves. Pikel read a scroll of blinking and blinked behind me in the corridor. Use-ID'ing everything and spending all my MP on Cause Fear couldn't save me from being ...

bel wrote:Sustain abilities ring does nothing on a demigod now.

Awwwww you're right. And looking at the code changes, they capped sustain abilities at 1 level last year

I'll edit out my suggestion.

Pickled - I don't know how novel these are: 1. HO or DD of Zin, leveling Invoc ~2:1 to your main weapon skill. Spamming Recite stays fun the whole game. I salted Dissolution! 2. It relies on chance or a lot of mutated meat, but breathe poison gas is outrageously strong. A Naga only needs one level o...

The only way you can possibly know whether you should open a runed door is to recognize the vault and already know what's in it. There's a square 8x8 runed vault where the outer 3x3 ring is all doors. I've seen it in Crypt, Depths, and Zot. The inner 5x5 is 25 enemies, including the toughest that c...

Besides the advice already given, the iron rod is especially good against low-AC high-EV enemies: elves, spriggans, etc. It's ideal vs a deep elf blade master next to you.

I used Sunlight on a 0.16 character without flight to dry up deep water between islands. I don't remember if a 3x3 stayed perfectly dry, but while I was on the level I didn't have to come back and reapply Sunlight.

It's much safer to go with heavy armor melee for a ghoul than to take a hybrid approach. Stick with animate skeleton and other low level support spells at most. Pain branding a top-tier weapon later sounds good. If you get hungry, allow yourself to rot a little before calling corpses to save piety f...

I have an XL 11 DsAK who seems to be on track to get Ignite Blood. Are there ways to get more blood spatter for more flame clouds? Are scrolls of immolation and inner flame the best ways to make use of the flame cloud immunity? edit: a lamp of fire and mephitic cloud + ignite poison (which requires ...

If food were removed from the game, then ramping up miscast effects would be a good element to balance spellcasting. As long as food is in the game, hunger is an important cost of spells. IMHO the staff of energy has far too dramatic of an effect and should be eliminated.

Of your choices, definitely the robe with rF+ SInv because of several enemies with fire or invisibility. However, as you know, with only MR+ you are very likely to be banished by an ogre mage. If you have a wand of digging, it would be easier to get away from ogre mages in Depths.

Bribe branch is a bad value through most of a non-extended game. When a shop call reaches $2500-3000, or if your character is very well-geared, then you could get bribe branch instead. The effect is quite small, but it will make fights against groups of enemies a little easier.

Woohoo! High five for adjacent Xom promotion posts

FeCK must have been much harder than TrCK. Yeah, scouting all three downstairs and resting in a cleared level are extra important to mitigate Xom's teleports.

There are a plenty of Chaos Knight posts here, but many of them are negative. The wiki also makes Xom sound dangerous. So I wanted to show a very positive experience with Xom. Based on this playthrough, I would say Xom is the #2 strongest early-game god after Trog and ahead of Fedhas, since you migh...

I agree with OP. I started playing Crawl with trolls because they seemed to be very good for surviving and learning. I'd say resistances are specifically the mid-game weak point rather than defenses in general. On my current TrCK I had to find a gold dragon in Depths 2 to get rPois. Then I wore two ...

Felid is the only race I haven't played besides halfling. Every skill Felid is good at I could do with the more survivable Spriggan. For engorged evoc I would use Kobold, and for unarmed Troll. I don't see a fun playstyle for Felid that is worth the hassle of their fragility. Try Confusing Touch. S...

Felid is the only race I haven't played besides halfling. Every skill Felid is good at I could do with the more survivable Spriggan. For engorged evoc I would use Kobold, and for unarmed Troll. I don't see a fun playstyle for Felid that is worth the hassle of their fragility. I think any positive ch...

Dith shadow mimic attacks are not very good unless you use a launcher with good damage or something like a GSC. My second Dith run was with large rocks and GSC :) It worked really well, so I assumed the mimic was a clone of the player. But looking at the code, the mimic has a modified monster versi...

Some gods are just poor choices (Oka, Ely, Jiyva, Nem). Is Oka a poor choice now? In 0.16 Oka is still very good imo. I don't know what the consensus is on Oka, and he is a more reasonable choice for species with terrible aptitudes. I feel Mak (healing) and Dith (50% more offense) are much better l...

- Ghoul: Fighter of Kiku, no spells Kiku with no spells? Why would you do that? Ghouls have the lowest starting intelligence (1) of all races, and they are natural melee fighters in heavy armor due to their high strength. Torment is a great full-screen nuke for 3-4 runes that requires no sacrifice ...

CK or Be are probably best. It blows my mind that someone would call FeCK best at something and even compare it to FeBe. I'm doing a TrCK right now. Xom continually helped me get through dangerous situations before Lair, and I'm now in Vaults with 24 levels of beneficial mutations on top of the rac...

I apologize if you think this is mean, but it blows my mind that anyone would fail at something 500 times for fun. I think your focus should be on getting tactical advice and improving rather than new combos. As for your question: - Human, Draconian, Demigod: anything reasonable should work. Drac an...

dpeg wrote:I don't think Crawl should ship with difficulty settings

I think Crawl should ship with difficulty settings. Sandman's HP mod is one of many ways to help players stick with the game longer. Good to see this.

I had an easy run with a demigod summoner in ring mail with all points in INT. I trained long blades right away and modestly leveled stealth to help get distraction stabs off my summons. In mid-game I transitioned to support magic, getting invis and silence. Haste was just a nice-to-have and Cblink ...

Was this some sort of speed run? Why did you not do Elf, Crypt, Slime, or V5 before Zot 5? You didn't even step in the Zig. My view is that you shouldn't have been in Zot at all without going through more levels to try to find rElec gear. edit: Okay, you had rElec but on an rF- ring. So I would have...

@ Advil - Glad it worked out for you! True, RNG involvement in shop selection and placement means you'll get helpful gear, but not necessarily for the build you wanted. This happened to me recently when a caster had to turn into an archer to survive. @ Tasonir - Good estimate! On a recent VS with 18...

A bold move from wizard to melee maniac! In a game where bad drops can hobble a strong start, Gozag gives a lot of build control while still maintaining fun surprises.

All hail Gozag. Your guy is super strong and shield of the gong is great for zigs. Through floor 12 shouldn't be a problem; 15-18 should be manageable, burning fog scrolls as needed (have a space behind you to step into). The biggest threats are undead and mummy floors due to dispel undead. Pan floo...

http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Singularity Never move toward the center or try to attack it. If you're just inside the edge you may be able to move away safely. I think hasting helps, because I've seen fast enemies like shrikes get out. But if you're next to the center, blink / cblink / teleport out of...

@ Sandman & Winged - do you generally use potion petition prior to or during an emergency? Opening risky fights with rods at range meant I could either run or teleport by the time any threatening group got near me that wasn't well-damaged already or surrounded by summons. @ Winged - Not a single...

There was a thread recently arguing over whether mummies were the worst or nearly-worst race. I had done a MuIE of Sif a while back, and it was awful. So I wanted to see what the power of Gozag could do. Like most weak races, things got dicey just before lair, and Josephine loitering around the lair...

This turned out to be one of my strongest characters ever due to the gear, though relying on statue form for AC got me into trouble a few times due to low MP or dispelling bolts. Only did Tomb in extended. Collected $45k, spending $20k in shops and $23k on Gozag (this is skewed high because his shop...

Does lack of hunger give a fighter Mummy any significant advantages over other races? If you must play a Mummy, then I can believe melee would be a good route with only a few skills to train. But if you want to play melee, would Mummy give you some good angle? They can't berserk. The wiki lists rege...

This is an advice post, not a request for advice. Try this out for an octopode with near-end-game gear in mid-game. I've seen a few mentions of octopode + Gozag, but no character dumps, so I wanted to share mine since it worked out well. The strategy is to use Gozag's shop request (never bribe or po...

I did a VS run a couple weeks ago. Not as bad as octopode or naga, but very frustrating. VS aptitudes favor spellcasting, and some advice here recommended a hybrid approach with spells to damage/debuff at range and then closing for melee. Seemed logical. That's what I did as IE of Ely, and it ended ...

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