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Okawaru feels so bleh compared to Trog. heroism and finesse...I'll still get lit up by Death yaks in lair. Berserk mows through everything and that's not including hand & brothers. o.o; Then Oka gifts me junk, Trog gives me supergodlyantimagic claymores. And doesn't require 10 or so invocations...

Then rename these new halflings "kobolds" just because kobolds actually exist as monsters in the game. I don't understand the burning need to have player species be species of monsters appearing in the game. Well for one thing, it makes the world of DCSS more cohesive and believable. More...

By divine abilities you mean like...mutations right? With flavor? I'm sure any you think of could be reflavored and considered for demonspawn - there really doesn't need to be a second "gets random mutations as they level up" race. Third. Draconians are not a "gets random mutations a...

I didn't think bcadren could top "giant tree people with a billion random mechanics" for terrible suggestions, but here we are.

I don't think monsters actually have a STR score.

i would find dg far more enjoyable if it has good aptitudes instead of more hp/mp at their current state i just think of them as worse humans that cant worship a god. But they're not, for reasons already explained in this thread. What I've seen explained is that all gods are op and that youve won t...

I always call them the Knowledge Butts, myself.

True fact: octopuses can remember and recognize human faces.

I'd suggest basically cutting kobolds, retaining halflings, maybe making some changes to halflings (improving a few of their spellcasting aptitudes, mainly). Lose the innate rMut. Then rename these new halflings "kobolds" just because kobolds actually exist as monsters in the game. This i...

Your best bet is probably to clear the level and then repeatedly walk into the trap until it drops you on the other side.

And weird to see people who say 'apts don't matter' 'exp is barely noticeable' wakawaka'ing over a 'just-better-than-human' species who still has to challenge itself with no god. The proposal keeps the best part, godlessness, and adds flavor(more demigodly species) and fun(according to a few agree'...

I guess the implementation didn't do what I intended. The idea was HORRIBLE, easy to splat in early game. Little bit below average in mid game (level 14-18). Stronger than Demigods in the end (level 25+). An early game risk for late game and extended rewards race. Most species are stronger than Dem...

Unless you're talking about Necromancy, in which case we've got enough Ne-leaning races already. There aren't any? DE has a +2 Apt; that's the highest. Mummies get a natural enhancer at a 0 apt. So I guess those are the best. You might count that as one or two; but neither is as extreme as Tengu wi...

"Pachmen are an exotic, sentient species of elephantine humanoids that hail from the frozen lands of the far North" is probably sufficient flavor to justify a +2 Ice, -1 Fire and the only ice spell they don't go well with is Ensorcelled Hibernation. Ice Elementalist start plus the other s...

I am Sparticus

Remove Halfling Remove Kobold Add Goblin, a more dark magic based small race, and 10x more interesting than the former two combined. You know that "Dark Magic" is not actually a thing in crawl, right. Unless you're talking about Necromancy, in which case we've got enough Ne-leaning races ...

Klown wrote:Cheibriados characters can get surrounded easily, and can enjoy cleaving.

Cheibriados characters are also intentionally making the game harder for themselves. Plus they still want to retreat/reposition to somewhere they can fight at as few enemies at once as possible.

What you need is a new trample ability. What if new trample can smash one enemy into the one behind it, damaging both? That would make it more tactically interesting. Or what if trample sends an enemy hurtling back, like a boulder beetle-style rolling attack? You could play pinball with enemies. If...

Loxodons.

I mean Manstodons

Delete halflings. Give Kobolds their Mutation Resistance if there really needs to be a non-undead rMut species.

Make it be able to eat people. No, seriously, make it eat people. Every crawl race other than Spriggan and Mummy already does this. (unless they worship Zin) some kind of bonus when eating intelligent flesh, wendigos are associated with cannibalism Bonuses for eating chunks encourage scumming so it...

Enemy Pegasuses (Pegasi?) refer to the PC as "<name> Boy."

Rat bombs.

retchdog wrote:This might overpower the ring of fire as a hydra-slayer, but I think that gaining rC- is fairly significant imho, and tying up a ring slot is a significant loss of resources for most characters at this point.

Nothing in Lair does cold damage except the rare ice beast.

Where are you getting the idea that brands are overpowered? The only one that's really too strong is Electrocution, which is why it was just nerfed. Nerf for the beginning of the game, turning it then barely noticeable for later stages, and vice versa. Its impossible to find a fixed damage that wou...

I've run two 15 rune runs with Op's of dith, one used an antimagic demon trident, the other used a +7 morningstar. Most of your success will come from avoiding fights, and having enough damage output to kill things when you have to fight; short blades typically don't provide this. --- Would help if...

Why is Beogh not Lawful Evil when he's literally the god of Orc Nazism

I just started an OpTm for the Tournament. Shortly after worshiping Dithmenos, though, I found this baby: B - the +11,+7 cutlass "Tayllaon" (weapon) {slice, rF+ Str+2 Stlth++} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) Should I stop training Unarmed and switch to a Short Blades stabber gamep...

The way buff spells currently work in crawl is universally considered to be awful design. If your most compelling argument for your idea is comparing it to those, then your idea probably isn't very good design, either. I am fine with them. Maybe more permanent buffs. That's the way the evocable bra...

did you read the post or just the topic title? making the spell flat out useless lategame is the entire point of argonaut's suggestion i don't like making size matter for more things though (i strongly believe that monster size should not exist at all), and it wouldn't really solve the problem anyw...

This doesn't add any strategy to weapon fighting, it just means that everyone wants to train Evo early. Please explain why it does not add strategy. See the bonus for why it wouldn't be such a great deal to train a lot of Evocations early because of a weapon brand. You still want to train 4 Evo as ...

Tweaking the Evocations-Brand synergy:Why all this? To add a little more strategy to weapon fighting and to nerf strong brands (mainly electrocution) at the beginning of the game. This doesn't add any strategy to weapon fighting, it just means that everyone wants to train Evo early. While it would ...

TheDefiniteArticle wrote:If you convert from one of the three good gods to another, some of the piety transfers.

The good gods also don't inflict wrath on you for leaving them unless you later convert to an evil god (Zin also gets mad if you switch to Jiyva).

Formicids were originally proposed as Dwants, dwarf-ant hybrids.

It almost got them dismissed out of hand.

Scroll Golems (Scrollems, if you will) dropping scrolls as loot would probably be okay for a portal vault, since iirc new enemies don't spawn in portals unless they're specifically scripted to (Zonguldrok's wizlab, etc). For the Librarian, giving her Demonic spellcasting could be a good idea so that...

Right, DE of Kiku failed to find Bolt of Cold/Fire and didn't enjoy Simulacrum. Doing extended with Freezing Cloud would be an interesting challenge though. Simulacrum + Kiku's Delivery Service will annihilate pretty much anything the game can throw at short of Hellion Island. In Pandemonium you ca...

This is hands-down my favorite altar vault.

I don't even use Spider Form all that much outside of the first gnoll/orc packs This is unwise. Spider Form is very good for a long time thanks to its combination of Venom branded UC and increased movement speed. You can kite any speed 10 or less melee dude to death easily (goliath/boulder beetles,...

Paralysis -> Potion of Shafting: Instantly shafts you 1-3 floors down. Confusion -> Potion of Shadows: Temporarily drops your LOS to 1. Decay -> Potion of the Wizard: Temporarily takes away 20 from your max HP and adds 20 INT. Degeneration -> Potion of Demonic Mutation: Tries giving you a demonspaw...

How many slots need to be bound is dependent on how many slots you have available. You need 5 pieces of jewelry cursed to be bound in magic and cursing your hat will make you bound in armor.

Don't tell me they started listening to what twelwe says

Couldn't agree more. It's always a pain when I go down a staircase, the game tells me I see a player ghost, and I spend the next five minutes playing "Where's Waldo" trying to find it.

Anyway...please can we cut out talking about landing on a specific floor. It's a pretty decent idea but the greater systemic problems with the implementation of the branch remain. Also: Dying in the abyss and the branch/floor's difficulty level aren't specifically problems; TheDefinite said it all....

Merfolk javelineers could use being less overpowered. (Oh and fauns and satyrs are also forest abominations which are found in shoals now specifically to make it even worse.) FR: If Ilsuiw steps next to a kraken, she uses the kraken as a mount. This would make Shoals more interesting Bloax please s...

I think this suggestion can be attributed to a desire to make changes just for the sake of making changes. Actually the reasons are: ⋅ There are too many summoning spells; especially after the 0.14 additions. ⋅ Demon spells are duplicated by Makhleb abilities. (with the exceptio...

I do want to make it clear, I'm not hating on the shoals. Actually, I kind of like them. They're easily the most unique branch out there. The Greco-Roman theme is really cool. (Why don't more branches have themes like that? Tomb is Egyptian, but that's about it.) Krakens are at least ten types of a...

There should be an escape hatch somewhere.

I don't really see what the point of this is. It's pretty intuitive that good gods don't like it when you summon demonic creatures but are fine with summoning animals.

I do like Summon Kraken, though. But only if the game says "You release the kraken!" whenever you successfully cast it.

Hopeless wrote:(though no lava orcs for some reason in the tiles .14 version:/)

Lava Orcs didn't make the cut for 0.14.

Leafsnail wrote:Actually maybe they should forget their spells sometimes too, because they are so old?

Elfzheimer's

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