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I'm trying to learn the new Xobeh. Anyone got any tips for how best to use him/her/it?

Play online and ask somebody to watch, or ask somebody to run a demo game for you. Sar is right. Most folks on the servers are pretty friendly. Just pop in, be civil, and ask for a intro run. I'm on CSZO and CBRO these days. Under Blink. If you see me there, pop in and let me know you want me to wa...

Sounds like you are moving towards enemies when you are a fighter. And fighting in the open. As I said above, when you see an enemy, move back into a corridor so you fight them one at a time . After you kill them use 5 to rest and heal to full. Then explore more. Go here: https://crawl.s-z.org/#lobb...

You were in the open, not close to stairs, with a Sentinel and a Lich in line of sight? Fog. Then take a few hasted steps away from they are. Fog doesn't immediately break LOS, but it will if you move right and they are more than a square or two away. That would have gotten you either time to Telepo...

You can still lure elves by shouting at them from reasonable distance. I cannot see how waking ALL sorcerers and annihilators makes Elf:3 easier, especially when they start to randomly teleport due to traps. *shrugs* Shouting never seems to be as effective at drawing them to the killholes. Usually ...

Octopode-monk-of-XOM wrote:u still need to know that u sacrifice corpses by praying(p) on them, otherwise commands dont help u

?? gets you the commands. Just ? gets you the instructions. Which includes a section about gods. And therein, it explains how p over a corpse is how you sacrifice.

Lawndart Jedi wrote:So where can I find the extreme basics, like "sacrifice corpses to Trog"?

Fire up the game, hit the ? key.

If I am dieing before finishing the tutorials isn't something wrong? No. One of the most important lessons to learn in Crawl is: get used to dying. I have been trying draconian melee and magic types. I load the normal "Dungeon Crawl" and get attacked by a hobgoblin and one or move jackals...

Thanks, MarvinPA. It's nice when a dev provides insight into how things work.

I'll just work my Evoc up to the high teens and call it good.

nilsbloodaxe wrote:IIRC, it also depends on where you use it, so in Zot at high evo, you should get drac packs and OOFs.

I did test in Slime, Tomb and Zot. The best I could get were high end Depth critters. The branch didn't seem to have any impact at all on what showed up.

Went ahead and did some wizmode testing. Evoc 10 got: hydra, cyclops, orc packs, ugly things, hounds, ants Evoc 15 got: the same, fewer junk, hill giants, elf priest, ogre packs Evoc 20 got: centaur warrior (singular), yaktaur packs, stone giant, simulacra, fire crab Evoc 21 got: dragon, orc pack wi...

Yes, Crawl is very hard. Play a Minotaur Fighter. And don't rush at the enemy. When you see one, back up and fight it 10 spaces from where you met it. In a corridor, ideally, so you only fight them one at a time.

Try that. You'll make it through D1.

Good luck.

Are you going to use a shield? Seriously, .15 shields don't suck. And with trog, you can get that rare one hander. So think about it. Obviously, if you choose to go shields, then you go Evoc since you can't shoot a bow with a shield. That's my normal route with a troggie. But when I go two hander, t...

Passage of Golubria Why. Because you can use it to bypass all sorts of stuff. Tab used it to win in 10k turns. Ninja.png It is basically controlled blink that take 3 less MP, 1-2 more turns to use (as you need to step into the portal after you cast it), and a bit less accurate (the exit portal is n...

LearnDB has this to say about it: "Creates shadow creatures from a D level based on your evocations skill. Really bad with low evoc."

So what does this mean? If I have Evoc 20, it is calling up stuff from Depth 5?

I think Qaz is good, but not as good as Trog. Possibly on par with Oka, or a bit better. I didn't find the noise to be much of a drawback. Sure, stuff comes running at you. But I'd rather draw stuff towards me than have to go towards them. Elf 3, for example, is much easier this way. In a couple are...

I don't mind deep water around the islands or in vaults, but can something be done so deep water doesn't "spawn" so it blocks access from one to the other--like, after you've made your way to the new island and want to backtrack? Getting cut off and having to just stand around mashing s un...

Would it be smart to first clear some other area(s) to get some more XP? Crypt should be easier than V5, but be careful. You can run into liches and nasty summoners. I find Depth 1-4 to be easier than V5 too, but that is because I can change the terrain with wands in Depth (watch out for the Deep T...

Hey all, i've been playing around with a Minotaur Fighter recently. Furthest i have ever come, so i want to go for a 3 runer :). Got 2 runes now and wanted to ask how to proceed now. Not sure about all the consumables and gear i have atm. Some advice would be welcome. Also what kind of armour would...

No, the angles were wrong. Priests from one direction. Ghost from another. Centaur from another. And bees from yet another. That image was as close as I could get. I could have ran for it with the ghost on my ass, 12 MP left, and no idea what's around that corner. I think it was just Crawl trying to...

So I am trying my best to play a game on webtiles and not hate myself over the lag. Doing okay. Got the key spells online. Found some books. I come down the stairs to D8 and get the orniflamme message. Do some looking. Find it. And it is guarded by 3 orc priests, an orc warrior with a polearm, 2 orc...

Zot cleared. Had one close call but luckily I found a healing stick earlier. V5 smashed. I didn't even bother to map/tel. Just stairdanced and mashed stuff in the face. Tried disaster area. My invoc is too low still. It sucked hard. A couple elemental bombs to the head took out the wardens better. O...

As for the skills, they are necessary for my caster in the early game, and it takes very little mid-game to raise a single skill to 7, as I did for Ice, so I don't consider those extravagant. Freezing Cloud is gloriously useful, and well worth the investment alone Yeah, in .15, there's no "opp...

Congrats!

Silence is basically useless in extended. Demons don't care. Ditch it and enjoy your slots! Pretty sure Shadow Critters suck too. The random pool you draw from in Pan/Hells tend to be a bunch of losers. Servator works very well with Haste and Crystal Spear if you don't want it pitching plasma torped...

Bashed my way through Depths and Zot up to the inner vault. It was all smooth sailing until the Orbs, Liches and Toes started showing up. Can't suck up any life juice from those guys. Liches go down easily enough if I have them solo. Toes are annoying, but not dangerous by themselves. But with any k...

Consider what and into said as a learning experience Aule. Vampiric is what you want for anything short of Tomb, Abyss, Pan and Hell. You know how everyone says Regen is awesome? And you should totally learn that, even if you have cruddy Necro apts? Well, having a vampiric weapon is like that. You h...

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5. Turn on the waffle iron and put your dick in it.

Sorry for asking - but will fresh basil leaves do it as well?

Yeah. It is sick. This guy's tabbing through Depths like it's Orc 1.

Found a WizLab I've never seen before. Anyone recognize it? Looks like a Lucy themed deal. Do I have to be careful using any of the portals?

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Slime done. Most of it was a cakewalk. But the S5 stairs were guarded by a mob of Golden Eyes, two Acid Blobs, and a Shining Eye. rCorr, Clarity or rMut? Aargh!! Ended up having to use Clarity cuz the confusion was too much with 8 of those damn things blinking in and out. Burned up 4 Heals too. And ...

Nemora maxed out invoc and got good results, I think. I don't normally go above 12 but I probably should. Right now, my Qazite is busying himself trying to get Haste online.

Good luck!

My understanding of disaster area is it works more like Lucy's corruption: i.e., you use it to mess up an entire area bad, rather than try to take out a single target. On my Qazites, I tend to use just the first power. The smite targetted elemental blasts have great range, hit for solid damage, and ...

Elf done. Wiggie and Asterion are smears on the ground. Total slaying up to +18 now, if I give up MR/rF/rP. Or I can just run around at 30 AC/23 EV/16 Slaying or 44 AC/17 EV/10 slaying (once I dump some enchants into those shoes). 8 scrolls into that shield outta get me to 42 SH. Dungeon Crawl Stone...

Don't get overconfident. Good reminder. Thanks. when I did it on my MiFi, my Invocations was already almost maxed, so I blew everything up without too much trouble. Disaster Area is perfect for situations like it. I tend to use just the smite targetted death bomb and rely on Qaz's passive powers. B...

Now up to 17 slaying. Vault denizens exploded like cheap balloons. Have books with Haste and Silence back on O4. Think I'll swing by there and grab them. Get those online. Loot Elf. Loot Crypt. Then Slime. Still don't wanna mess with V5 with a Qazite... Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-2045-...

It's the end of a long week. I didn't want to keep messing around picking up arrows with my Centaur. He was also feeling really squishy for some reason. Decided to roll up a MiFi of Qaz. Tab tab tabbity tab tab. It was just a goof off character and the RNGs decide to give him +10 slaying. Hoolee... ...

Have you already cleared Depth and Zot 1-4? I would go do that first. Slime without rCorr is really, really dangerous. That -AC stacks up insanely fast and suddenly you're taking 60 dmg a pop. From creatures that move much faster than you. Three hits and you're gone. Torment won't help the situation...

Huh. Well, then, you can always just walk towards one, when it releases, read Silence and draw it back towards it's mate. Then bash both to pieces with your big AM mace.

Yes, that is a trap. Some evil vault designer wants to kill you. If you go in, and take like 3 steps, the liches are freed and you are stuck in the middle, in open sight, with two liches flanking you. EVIL. So, stay there, and see if either is a summoner. Hit "s" a few times. If it summons...

Shoals turned out to be nastier than Snake. The harpies were tearing my centaur to pieces and the sea snakes got him to dark red poison in like two hits. I bailed after Shoals 2. Decided to tackle Snake instead. Snake 1 went alright. Found some archer types that donated more arrows. And a store wher...

Well, congrats on making it out! Nicely done!! Okay, you can still try to dig a zigzag using dig. It will mean that there is space behind you for summoners to bring up stuff, but that is better than fighting in the open. Generally there are 2 master archers, 2 sword masters, and like 12-15 annihilat...

Dude, you didn't dig a zigzag. And you went INTO the vault. To handle E3, you need to dig two diagonals that allow only 1 free space in LOS. You do this with disintegration, not digging wands. Like this: Elf Posture.png Then you read noise and make them come to you. Going into vaults is how the devs...

Thanks, Octopode. Yeah, this guy's not using any invokable Dith powers. I only went Dith to get doubleshot (and because I didn't want to go Trog or Okra again ). I do have a +1 rC barding down in D15 or something, but I don't need rC++. I did notice that I've no source of rP. Frick. Better go learn ...

That was smart of you! Honestly, I think doing a zig in a meleer, down to 17, is a major accomplishment. Without kiku or necro, tackling a bunch of high end mummies, even with Silence, is tough. I can just see that silence circle shrinking as more and more mummies come online. *shudders* Grats again...

Congrats! Nicely done. Yeah, I love the .15 inventory changes too. Makes gameplay so much more fluid. Did you run into any Pan Lord floors? When I did zigs, I went in with casters able to Necro and Storm so the Mummy floors were not a big deal. But the Pan Lord ones can be nasty. Can't shut em down ...

So I tried to play on Webtiles again and the lag was brutal. I literally had to play one keystroke a time to see it processed. Multiple keystrokes was just a recipe for disaster. Back to offline. Current runner is designed to see just how powerful 0.15 shooting is. Centaur, longbows, Dith for double...

I actually know women who play on webtiles. And they're good too. But they don't advertise their gender because why? They are there to play a game. If someone what to judge them, judge them on their skill at the game. You don't need to know their gender to do that.

It's tough learning this stuff first time around w/o dying. It is, but you're doing a great job. Keep it up! Now, to be clear, I am suggesting you leave V5 now . Don't try to clear it. LEAVE. Go do Crypt and some Depth. Maybe Elf. And Slime. THEN come back. Don't be stubborn and try to clear it. If...

Check the listed delay/min delay on it. They've been changed in trunk. I believe it's a fairly high value now, and that it takes more skill than before for longbows to become fast. I'm running a centaur now and I think it took 16 bows to get a longbow to 1.0 aut. Short bows hit it around 12 or so i...

Glad to help. V5 is really dangerous. On par with Slime 6 these days, with all those open corners, high level enemies, and no guaranteed safe place to hide. These days, if I have rCorr, rC+, and maybe rMut, I do Slime instead. But I'd rather do Crypt, Depth, and Elf before I mess with V5 or S6. You ...

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