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HuPa 0.3.4 (offline). Back when there were amulets of resist slowing and +rage artifacts. Even found the morgue.

Play a He. Buy food. Wear heavy armour. Pacify everything.

And if you just want to win: go Ely.

I've won a few 3-rune OpTm with Yred. OpTm is all about surviving the early game, so while heroism is nice, the zombie army does that much more to add to early survivability.

I found that Yred is a solid choice for OpTm in a 3-rune game. The build is weak early, which is exactly when a zombie army is of greatest utility. Yred wears off when things start rolling, but by then you'll have all the forms and support spells you need to essentially play without god powers.

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the size is important.

I'd also suggest 'char_set = ibm' in init.txt

Ever played King of the Tabletop? I printed it out once but never got around to actually playing. Looked fun. Was almost certainly the source of Magic: the Gathering. I played it on the weekend for the first time and I found it very similar to the Great Khan Game. I think it has a better magic syst...

Having Heroism and raising less Unarmed Combat to use that advantage also brings statue/dragon form online earlier. True. However, Turgon nailed the other reason I prefer Ash for this one. I also have a irrational bias against gods that gift items. I just never liked that mechanic, and I'm prepared...

Ash is my preferred for this combo. The skill boost brings statue/dragon form online earlier. Although admittedly you still have to find them...

nago nailed the conjuration challenge a couple of weeks ago with a spriggan. The entry in the learndb also said that the other completer went with a spriggan. So instead I went for the kiting approach with lots of HP, lots of AC and a large shield: the centaur. It's a lot harder and tedious to get o...

You don't see somebody use a scythe as their endgame weapon everyday. In future, have a look at the weapon stats through the inventory command. The important numbers are base damage and delay. Obviously you are trying to maximine the former and minimise the latter. Bardiches are strictly better to s...

And done! This was quite a lot of work and more tension on Zot 5 than I've experienced for some time. Usually, I wait until I am stupidly overpowered before taking on Zot and then calmly walking through it. I was planning on carefully parking things on Zot 4 and taking it slow as usual. But I was do...

Mimics completely resist draining. That case aside, identifying your wands early is good advice.

I certainly don't intend to park everything. I was planning to proceed down one lung, exposing one enemy at a time, retreating to deal with it and if I can't damage it, parking it. I'd only consider running for it when I can see the orb chamber. It shouldn't be more than one or two things parked.

I've been throwing corpses for corpse rot positioning; I don't think they do any damage. And if a monster blunders into a trap, it isn't *my* fault.

Lair, lair, tomb is the plan. In my best game, I'd cleared Tomb before YASDing in Shoals:5. Orb Guardians less of a problem: they are suseptible to agony and corpse rot. I expect that I can just grab the orb and run, provided I've parked most of the fire orbs and egolems and have thinned out the res...

From the learndb the necro challenge is: win a pure necromancer with no allies: pain, corpse rot, sublimation of blood, vampiric draining, dispel undead, agony, borgnjor's revivification, no other spells, and no damaging or affecting any monsters with anything else. I love a good challenge, but I've...

Necromancers are hybrids: getting a pain brand on your choice of top tier weapon is what necromancy (with Kiku) is all about.

My necros use Cigotuvi's Degeneration to trivialise draconians in Zot

I just five runed (Shoals, Swamp, Vaults, Tomb, Slime) an OcFi of Kiku. This was mainly a melee build (pain trident + shield), with necro spells (and skill) just to provide punch to the pain trident and zombies/abominations for support, meatshields and escape. Like you, I didn't really notice the lo...

On an unrelated note, how useful is high-powered Control Undead in the Tomb? Last time I was there I didn't have much luck with the high-end mummies with 20 Spellcasting and 23 Necro. Still, it was great fun on the entry of the last level of Tomb, when my wall of Guardian Mummies tried and failed t...

Octopode Fighter. So unforgiving of mistakes...

One day I couldn't decide what god I wanted to play with when I was generating a character, so I started a random demigod. An air elementalist. It stormed through the game, only to fall to ineptitude in hell. A few more met their end in hell before I *finally* bothered to learn regeneration. This on...

Thanks KL. I've been playing a series of DGAE and killing in the extended endgame. I've found myself overly reliant on good loot woth this build, and Tomb is a good source if I can survive. All this advice helps heaps, so thanks again.

It's often my fourth or fifth Rune, too, since even though it's a pretty rough area there's a relatively short list of required resources I need in order to handle it. Now this is interesting. I often get stuck between Zot and the hells, so an early side trip to Tomb would be useful to me. KL: woul...

Wow, this is an awesome win. Never seen 15 runes on a full on ranged build before - congrats!

Or more explicitly, in init.txt, go to section 6-a "All OS", take the # off the front of char_set = ascii and change it to char_set = ibm

I just use: char_set = ibm, and it turns walls from # to blocks nicely.

I like the deserted forge. It shows up early and often yields the Singing Sword, which is fun to use early on, nice for an early short > long blades switch and has entertaining new dialogue.

Probably pointless with the current implementation of lava. However, if lava was changed so that the player took damage from radiant heat from standing next to, or worse, levitating over it, then chasms would have a use as barriers you could fly over without being crisped.

Very nice build, and great to see somebody post on the effectiveness of Zin the extended endgame. Why were you wearing the amulet of conservation; isn't that covered by the cloak? How hard did you rely on your magic, do you think you could have done it without it? (pretty hard, I'm guessing, with 14...

Thanks guys. With the drops, I was plenty powerful enough to get through without them... I was just greedy. Good drops make or break a three-rune challenge game. Building up something 15-rune worthy essentially means become so puissant that equipment doesn't really matter anymore. Generally speaking...

One of the most challenging three-rune wins I have pulled off was a HuPr of Zin. I went for the old school D&D cleric flavour: no magic, no edged weapons. Hard to pull off; very satisfying when I managed it.

Well, that's my first 15-rune win. I've been playing for a few years now and have read a lot of 15-rune victory posts. To me, the common theme appeared to be magic using hybrids using a variety of schools. This really cuts across my prefered playing style. I like melee, and when I use magic, I like ...

No, you have to start over from one star.

Finally got a HuDK out - it was a six rune game. I wanted to go for more, and I especially wanted to take my killer ghouls through the tomb (equip them with a platemail and a great sword of flaming... awesome... and they don't die stupidly to poison like allied orcs do). However, between slime and z...

I like Zin. Like it so much I played nothing but for months and months. https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1527 I played Zin as a heavy armour melee build. So, compared to your average godless fighter/gladiator, and D:1 splats aside, the early, early game is pretty easy for a Z...

Don't discard Nemelex that easily - high evocations and a staff of earth is still a good combo. Does mean that you have to invest a lot of xp in staves and evocations. Last time I did this I saved by not putting any in conjurations. But with LRD, you don't need it.

I play a lot of no-magic straight melee types, and you are right, these builds are hard to get going, which is somewhat counter to the usual situation of characters that bash things in roguelikes (easy to start, hard to finish). The problem is basically that you only have one option - bash things or...

I'm still carrying the Black Torch! While I've had a couple of unfortunate Zot deaths, I find this build quite straightforward to get there. 1. I'm not having XP problems, by Zot I'm level 27 and have my weapon mastered and big numbers in armour, shields and invocations, and that's even with the sum...

Finding an early amulet of faith is amazing. I got one on D1 and by D3 I had flying skulls and wights sweeping the dungeon for me. The dungeon will catch up because I am descending quickly, but so far reinforcements are coming in before they are needed.

This thread inspired me to run some HuDKs. My last win was a HuPr of Zin, so doing the dark side struck a thematic chord. I have been taking short swords for the same reasons as joellercoaster, and yay, I just found Zonguldrok!

It is suboptimal playstyle and sort of against the crawl philosophy I know. Plenty of times I found an awesome glaive or double sword or something and could have taken a whole new path in life. I feel great satisfaction that I resisted and ultimately prevailed.

Hey Nim, this is what I'd do (but remember, I've just posted a 1/800 win percentage, so take a big grain of salt): 1. Clear Zot, consider a 3 rune win. If that was no problem, then consider a 15 runer 2. I very rarely play Oka - I'd consider Nemelex (summons and escapes, basically) 3. Thay are doing...

I've been playing Crawl for a while, so I tend to set myself stupid challenges and stubbornly stick with them until they are done. This one was about getting an old school D&D style cleric out. So, HuPr of Zin. No magic. Ditch the starting q-staff and robe and get the mace, shield and heavy armo...

Found this in 0.8.0-a1-177-gb68bbd6:

Code:: a - the +7,+7 flail of Eskah (weapon) {flame, flame, rElec rN+ Stlth++}

Two flame brands? Just a bug, right?

I won a DGWr recently (challenge game: could only learn Tloc spells). I played it as a light armoured fighter with awesome positioning skills. You don't actually need a lot of Tloc to get value from Blink and as Ashery says, access to control teleport is solid gold. The whole throwing thing was a se...

Thanks to the folks in the most natural combinations thread for advice on getting a MuIE off the ground. I'd also like to extend my thanks. I just YASD'ed a MuCj (ice) on Zot. Was level 27, had icestorm rolling nicely. Even found a manual of Fighting so my HP were pretty good. However, I was still ...

I recently won a 3-runer DGWr. It was a "pure" Wr - only Tloc spells allowed. In the beginning, it was a fighter with blink, like Marvin said. Post mid-game it became more of a stealth-based character, teleporting around, grabbing stuff and avoiding fights.

Well, it should actually kill you if you're levitating above it or standing next to it, because it's lava. Funny thing about stuff that's really hot: it makes the air around it really hot. How about taking heat damage when you are levitating above or standing next to lava. Similar to standing next ...

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