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I find the super-ally god (hep) can carry me through most awful early games i draw on wanderers, you might wanna consider trying it.

Thanks for putting hellcrawl on brotato guys!

Yah really, when i play a junk wanderer i'm so glad there are plenty levels in normal crawl. When i play strong stuff i just skip like 25-50% of the game and it's still fun. What sets hellcrawl appart is nofood and some more numbers. That's the good stuff that's hooking me up hard, i just don't unde...

Nothing like your first time with a branded club!

Potion of bacon: causes corona and degeneration.

I played quite a bit and i think my only complaint so far would be some pretty crazy stairs, for example in latest game when i went to orc there were 3 warlords camping the orc side of the stairs. Weaker combos can also actually be really really hard depending on floor items, but that's fine. Overal...

Wow seeing damage numbers... man I've been playing this game for so long and my estimation of damage was sorta close overall but i was really wrong on quite a few things! This is pretty cool, and quite a bit easier to process then !!!!!!!! !!!! !! ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! edit: really i like this...

*gasp*

Having played a recent evocations heavy character, I had tried to use the elemental evokers as much as i could. Compared to other elemental evokers at very low power fan was just inferior. But at 27 evoc ( i know :/ ) it actually was acceptably usable for its intended purpose of making some room. I'...

I would prefer if all evocables worked like boxes and were limited use, and be fully stackable, even wands.

Definite wow, well played!

Or alternatively just make OOD give no items/XP, so it will make sense to kill only monsters who were generated initially. was thinking about this the other day, why isn't this in normal crawl I'm not sure I even understand why there are any respawns. Would game be worse or better without any new m...

Agreed that it feels really cheap, especially considering how easy it is to cast in plate, I'm guessing it will be somehow rebalanced sometime.

It's rather similar to the hep power, which is even better and easier to cast.

I cant believe there is space in my brain dedicated to knowing this very useful information.

Yeah it happened at least 10 times in a 15 rune game i played last week while auto-exploring.

Ok I didn't realize that, thanks for clarifying.

I just put on some artefact flying boots and evoked and had the blue flight that expires instead of the white flight that doesnt expire. Recent change or do artefact boots of flight not give white flight?

Poison book start without very early ignite poison is about as tedious as crawl gets. Also hep can help make most difficult starts much more manageable if found early.

My list of changes: + Remove player ghosts + Remove hunger, food + Remove deep water; Merfolk, Octopode nullifies shallow water penalty, but does not give any bonus + Ammo always mulches, increase avg. amount of ammo in stacks generated on ground + Stats cannot go below 1 + Remove Dith’s “no fire” ...

I agree there is so much experience available in the game, for the first time in forever I went and entered depths only after having completed everything before, including all 5 runes and the optional parts. This is how much experience I gained and how many consumables I have left at that point (dep...

I've been trying to use elemental evokers in my current trunk game and would like to hear what others think of them in their current form. - water: the elemental is usable but falling in water sucks a bit - fire: fire clouds do good damage - air: with 10 evoc it's not doing a good job of pushing bac...

Right now the targetter for inner flame says chance to apply effect is "not susceptible" when aiming for hep ancestor ally, as it would for summoned butterflies. Yet going through with the casting, it's possible to make inner flame spell stick to hep ancestor, but it usually fails half or ...

Would be nice to have that logged, wouldn't be spam either since I normally seem to find only a few acquirements per game.

Pretty sure i saw a centaur in the middle of 8 small bushes in early dungeon without an altar this week-end.

- Make bolt of magma 0% or 50% resistable by rF+ instead of 55%

ps: thanks for making this!

But you can shoot arrows over small bushes, there's a couple centaur vaults that depend on that behavior.

- reduce noise of lightning bolt

3 books!! First lets me run fast, second lets me cast inner flame, third lets me summon butterflies. I can already hear the screams of thousands of exploding butterflies!! ------------------------- Inventory: 6/52 slots Hand Weapons e - a +0 dagger (weapon) Armour d - a +0 robe (worn) Books a - a bo...

There was a thread recently by someone who went through all backgrounds for felid race, it was insightful and helpful!

Agreed that toxic radiance is excellent right now, but it needs lots of space and turns to kite any bag of hp. In any case, this isn't the thread for this discussion, so let's agree to disagree, and i'll repeat suggestion: - add ignite poison to poison start book (if won't do try to find a fun lv2 s...

Ignite poison removes most of the kiting downside of poison. 1. cast toxic radiance 2. walk back 2 steps 3. cast ignite poison 4. repeat if needed - Normal orcs and other early monsters are 1 iteration of the combo (need 2 cells to kite, 4 actions, 7 mana), orc warriors and yaks are 2 iterations (4 ...

- If you don't chop poison out, add ignite poison to poison start book (and cut it's damage by half, it's completely overpowered with toxic radiance, but otherwise poison book start is SO BORING!).

- Remove food
- make sif muna give books at 1 *

Agreed that starts with an evocable are amazingly fun, but i'd say it happens about once every 50-100 games only, I don't have it in me to scum that much!

Also yesterday I had a hilarious start with 3 weapons and most of my skill points in unarmed, hurray!

But really, i'm roleplaying a guy who's a hero, wielding a a wonderfully realistic double sword with get this, ***TWO BLADES***, cutting down man-eating snakes in 3-5 hits, but a plant, whooaaahhh there champ take you time need 20+ hit attempts to cut this thing down.

Don't tread on my realism.

Are they subtly wearing armor?

I just did a test and my character without magic started worshipping sif muna, split xp between spellcasting and weapon skill, and after 2 floors still hadn't gained a single star of piety.

So it looks like spellcasting doesn't count for sif mina piety.

In my experience the *confuse happens infrequently and didnt seem to be related to damage taken but it didn't seem to have a cooldown, so it's adding another potential for a low % chain of events that randomly make lose. In other words reply above this one is what I do now that I've tried *confuse a...

Just got this inventory on newest wanderer start :O ------------------- Inventory: 8/52 slots Hand Weapons a - a +0 dagger (weapon) b - a +0 hand crossbow c - a +2 blowgun Missiles d - 22 bolts g - 3 curare-tipped needles Armour f - a +0 robe (worn) Potions e - a potion of lignification Comestibles ...

Sif Muna book gifts come late and are only vaguely related to skilling, but are still very useful over a full game (i guess a bit like okawaru gifts)! Also piety loss sucks really hard with sif muna now for some combination of using autoexplore / killing enemies with mana / using channel / training ...

Thanks for putting in the effort to write all this, outside a few outliers (for example I consider shrikes dangerous and always handle with maximum care and I'd rate spark wasps as sometimes threatening), I'm largely in agreement with your list. This would be a good thread to sticky along with your ...

Wow thats so impressive!

Any idea how many times he had to retry before succeeding?

Would be cool if maces had a chance to increase wait time for target next action by 1 aut if some condition related to weapon and/or skill was passed.

I highlighted "elf kissing picture", right clicked, choose "search internet", and then suddenly realized what I had done...

The internet isn't exclusively populated by creeps!!!

Players can currently cast ring of fire/tornado or worship cloudgod to fully ignore all clouds, and can cast/evoke clouds/fog on self as well (including the lv3 mephitic). Knowing this I'm having a really hard time figuring out when i'd learn that spell. You would learn that new spell instead of usi...

Well played!

Btw, which server to you play on now, I haven't seen one of your games in a while?

I have 2 deaths to hunger in labyrinths since hunger doesnt (didnt?) have a force more message when using direction keys to move instead of auto explore. My first online guy which would have been a winner died in slime because i didnt know how webtiles handled lag (keystrokes arent discarded, they a...

It feels like its noise is really low as well.

Could add some curare effects to poison as well, having a curare weapon spell would be pretty cool since the slow works on (almost?) everything. Curare cloud/bolt sounds a bit much though.

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