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After a long break, I have been excited to restart DCSS. I have enjoyed the trunk changes immensely. It sure seems like artefacts are better and useful and easier to find :D ! I was just going to experiment with KoBr (love nightstalker 3) but I turned into an one-hit non-stealthy tank on level 3 the...

My reaction is the same as most here - I really like the new game play and I noticed many of the points already made: Amnesia is much more valuable and important Background choice means permanent +s for those skills -- min delay comes much sooner for melee than spellcasters and that's good to know. ...

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Nice writeup, congrats to the devs and community for the recognition of their/our excellence in the world of rogue-likes.

Lots of times monsters drop nothing, sometimes they drop stuff. We know why, no mystery there. Here is a proposed mystery: When a monster dies and their stuff is going to be dropped: for each item: if item is stackable then drop else if exact-same* item is already dropped* : if item is not special* ...

Died in a zig, but quite fun. the !mut game is quite interesting.

Thanks for all the advice. The ring of ice was just temporary of course, just fought some ice dragons.

My first game with trunk, I think, and I've enjoyed it quite a bit. The +8 fustibalus of the Assorted Stars let me just basically tab through Vaults 1-4. Advice sought: 1) Time to ditch the amulet of faith for Spirit? What's the downside? No other amulets around. 2) Armour - what to look for, 3) Nex...

What about lignification?

OTOH, one of the joys of the game is discovering stuff that fills in weaknesses you have right now but perhaps not always. I don't see why HP should be excluded. One would have to find such items and balance their effectiveness vs current situational needs -- HP should be just one more complication....

Congrats - I've been trying Fo* of Chei and so far haven't been able to get through the Lair/Orc early midgame.

Perhaps someone might explain why rPois doesn't have 3 pips like rF and rC and why/if that's still a good idea.

Give them that +1 LOS bonus at level 13 similar to Naga Constrict as a reward for surviving and (by that time) having resources to handle the pros/cons of this.

Doesn't Veh grant +1 LOS at a high level of piety? Not for HE? Deny Veh to HE?

Perhaps + 1 MP for every book you are actually carrying or standing on?

I returned to Crawl after a year's absence this weekend and I have to say thanks for the hard work making 0.14 what is today. It feels like a much tighter, more interesting game than 0.11. The new tiles, the new species, the new and improved mechanics are all great. It seems like a new game. Congrat...

Thanks very much for the great answers. I have never considered getting spells, but it worth a shot. I do have 2 Ice Manuals stashed, although no low level spell books at the moment; the jellies seemed to have gotten to them. It's funny, I put off training shield until mid-Lair and was fully trained...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11.0 (tiles) character file. Ohmi the Tortoise (Minotaur Fighter) Turns: 31691, Time: 04:12:32 HP 93/128 AC 29 Str 25 XL: 15 Next: 48% MP 21/21 EV 7 Int 7 (8) God: Okawaru [******] Gold 1886 SH 29 Dex 9 Spells: 0 memorised, 14 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invi...

Trog will keep helping you. BIA is terrific, Trog's Hand really helps with MR. You perhaps should look for more MR and rF+ before entering Zot. rMut too. See this post with of my first win: here

You can stick around a little while, and wait for new monsters (not items) to spawn but there are 2 bad things that will happen: 1) you will get hungry, and 2) after a few thousands turns OOD (out-of-depth) monsters will start showing up. Think Hydras or spiny frogs on d2. Those are usually bad news...

I do not see a problem, in fact, I think monster variety and modification between versions should be encouraged. I suppose that puts me on the Liberal side of the fence. Even similar monsters can teach one something; learning the difference between and gecko and an iguana is part of the fun. Seeing ...

Besides class, the starting amount could also be multiplied by a racial factor, higher for dwarves, elves, tengu, mummy; lower for troll, ghoul, octopode, felid, etc.

Looks very similar to the MiBe I just had my first win with, see here . The anti-magic eveningstar you already have is probably what you'll want to switch to and buff up some more; you'll be very glad of it fighting the uniques and casters you'll find in the Vaults. I went with eveningstar/large shi...

very interesting, I'm trying octopodes now too.

Update : I won and I had a blast! I learned a lot and I have to thank the community really; the wiki and this forum made it possible for me to navigate Zot relatively easily until the final vault. Twice there, I was this close to death but chose the correct tactic each time to recover. I should als...

You may just be too quick for your own good -- some species are not good for Chei because they are inherently faster than most of the monsters and so you won't get the piety increases for killing them.

This guy ended up dead in the WizLab, which was fine since I've never seen it before. Before the end I did find a shield of reflection and I noticed that even with just a few levels of SH he was much tougher to beat down; my piety went to 6* and stayed there. The small decrease in damage using some ...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10-a0-1720-g5de2656 character file. B2 the Severer (Minotaur Berserker) Turns: 40906, Time: 08:09:13 HP 152/152 AC 33 Str 27 XL: 17 Next: 87% MP 5/5 EV 9 Int 13 God: Trog [*****.] Gold 2368 SH 0 Dex 11 Spells: 0 memorised, 16 levels left Res.Fire : . . . See Invis...

How about an ability that protects you and perhaps your allies from other summoned creatures, kind of like warding? Or causes them to switch sides to you or at least go hostile vs the caster: betray master (smite targeting?). Of course, to be fair, perhaps certain monsters should also have access to...

Alternatively, change ?DC so that it's a targeted effect like identify. That would prevent the grindy behavior of picking up all the glowing robes but allow checking if for example, an awesome artefact weapon might be dangerous. Why not make Identify scrolls a little more common to compensate for n...

I just finished a game where I (MDFi) spent a lot of time dealing with lots of duplicate wands and juggling inventory. This recent experience makes me quite receptive to these kinds of changes. I also appreciate the simplicty of galehar's solution to the stated problem -- making Evocation more usefu...

My reaction is the opposite -- I quite bored with the older style layouts with long,long corridors and small rooms. I really like the big open areas, the NxM levels, and the octagons.

+2, +3, and +5 rings of intelligence on D1. KoHu, unfortunately. MDFi: +2 dwarven gloves, +1 dwarven splint mail on D1, great luck with dwarven weapons and gear. AC 21 by Lair, entered the nice, compact bailey with lots of goblins and kobolds throwing axes that couldn't touch him. The Orc Knight, ho...

It would amuse me if there was a metagame that influenced a vague overall +/- to the rng in general or to targeted rng results. Such as the number of bones files waiting for ghosthood, or number of deaths by unique out of the last n games, or a random choice among a number of such factors. Karma. It...

I wonder if making the gift-giving gods more useful in the endgame is all that bad a thing. Is it part of the actual DCSS philosophy that the gift-givers aren't considered that useful in the end game? Is it intended that god-switching be something to master if one wants to be successful in the end g...

I don't think so. You have to pay the price for the power and take the ring off when you don't want it. Same sort of thing for amulet of stasis.

From last night:

The elephant tramples itself.

Stupid me. Thanks

Could/should the character dump show for each skill whether it was turned on or not for XP purposes?

I too had what was for me good success after several D:1 splats. +4+3 hand axe of Electrocution made getting Fighting going easy. I didn't get the Temple before being surrounded out in the open away from stair on D:7(tele sent me a whopping 2 squares away), but still I can see how good this guy can ...

Does the character dump show that you picked it up?

what were you wearing in Zot if not the amulet of resist mutation? Or does not that work so well down that far?

Congratulations. My best char so far was DDNE so I'll pick up a couple of tips from your dump.

When did you forget Pain/Agony? Did you find the other spellbooks pre/post Lair or even later?

Launching ranged attacks is a huge giveaway of your position, as they can follow the projectile back to its source as well as a player can. Is there a way to make enemy projectiles more noticeable? When playing console, it seems like the line is only on screen for a millisecond. Is there an option ...

In my very inexperienced opinion, I doubt that you'd need an extra attack to finish off any given opponent, and you'll discombobulate those f*cking summoners, so go with the antimagic.

Is there any way to turn sound on for Mac Tiles? I've never heard a peep.

danr wrote:Those great mutations you had are what every deep dwarf gets.

Elf:5: what usually gets me is the demonologists. I can handle other stuff, but those guys, suddenly you're facing a horde of demons and you are out of MP and low on HP... erk.

Right, I've never gotten a character that high before.

My best character so far, but just like my previous best, dead at Elven Halls 5. The blademasters themselves weren't so bad one on one, it was the smoke demons and such that came with them. In hindsight, I should have spammed my greater demons and snuck up better. Or perhaps made another entrance. N...

took about 3 minutes, went from Engorged to Very Full. Minotaur had a +9 rod of smiting, made me drink a potion. Nothing else I could use although I took the latjang of venom for my stash.

Thank you both

Are 5 meat, 2 bread + engorged enough?

More Fe nerfs: How about each new life comes with n random mutations, n == number of resurrections-1, or n == XL/4. Staying where you are is a good idea. Perhaps run the game some turns ahead to let the monsters disperse a little? Or let player choose to "rest" for 100 turns at a pop while...

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