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I never go in until I get MR+++ and a minimum of rF+ and rC+. Ice clouds are great for thinning the pursuit. With a melee character I wait until later in the game. As everyone says, one at a time is best. I run around a couple corners as soon as I spot one. If I get wounded, I move further away to h...

I fracked up. Got into trouble on slime 4. Retreated up the stairs to 3. Immediately surrounded by Okawaru's minions. Teleported to get away and landed in a narrow area. Was taking damage from walls and moving toward a clear spot to heal up when another group from Okawaru surrounded me. Overconfiden...

anyway vitality is really really good and you should use it, gong is awful, you should have done it before crypt but if you need piety there's always abyss scumming, and +5 eva > rn ring Amulet of vitality is much better than warding and gourmand. rCorr and rMut are situationally more useful, of co...

Not a lot of good jewelry other than the standards (fire, cold, prot fire, cold & magic, etc.): the ring "Nawa" {SustAb Int+3}. +2 ring of slaying. +5 ring of evasion. I was using the +5 evasion before I did vault 5 and crypt. I was using the +N ring and amulet of warding to minimize t...

I think I can win a 3-runer fairly easily with this one. I have already won that way 3-4 times over the last couple years. I have had twice as many die on extended game runs. Any realistic hope for a this melee character? If so, where would you go first? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16-a0-2460...

I've come back to this a few times only to get smashed by Cerebov or Gloorx Vloq, I finally had a run where I got both of them and made it out of Pan with all 5 runes. It was really tough to get back into the feeling of playing this character after an break. Part of the reason I kept getting killed,...

Went to Pan. Got 3 runes (demonic and the other two Pan lords) but Gloorx Vloq got me. Got him pretty low but ran short of mana. Just could not get away from him the last time. (I guess I should have teleported but I get stubborn after running away once.) Not sure how it would have turned out with e...

Good stuff. Gives me a lot to think about. Thanks, guys. Sticking with Sif sounds right. (Just wanted to check.) Haven't had to use channeling much with the 62 mana. I think I am 48 without the staff. (I tend to run through my mana fast so it has been working for me.) I have staffs of Wizard, Conjur...

I would learn Repel Missiles to use when you run into archers. A pack of centaur can turn you into a pin cushion with it. I would also training spellcasting so you can get more mana and spell levels plus cut hunger. You are also going to need some more firepower. Area effect damage is important. Fir...

Got a good one going. Have lost a half dozen characters in extended but never finished. Have been everywhere about once. Any suggestions for me on extended: ⋅ Where to go next? What order? What to avoid? ⋅ What to improve/get to increase chances of survival? ⋅ What abou...

Conjure Flame (lvl 3 spell) can set fire to trees. Never knew that until my finger slipped...

q - the cursed +13 chain mail of the Gastropod (worn) {Int+1 Dam+5}

has an encumbrance of 15...

XL15-16 is such an awkward age... No much else left to do really. I suppose I could have done the upper levels of Spider first. I had been down to Dungeon L15. Finished Lair and Orc. I usually go for the two Lair vaults next (never slime). Swamp first since it is usually easier than the other. I rar...

I have been working on learning to play Spriggen Enchanters. This one was my best one so far. I lost him the way I usually do with charaters. Too stupid to run away. Or too stupid to stay away. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12-a0-3197-g72301d3 (tiles) character file. 127683 Spike the Unseen (le...

... you fall through a shaft into an ant vault.

I still had lots of escapes but somehow it only got worse after that. I died in the abyss shortly after that.

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11.0 (tiles) character file. 1301919 Dean the Archmage (level 27, 123/132 HPs) Began as a Deep Elf Wizard on Dec 17, 2012. Was the Champion of Sif Muna. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on Dec 19, 2012! The game lasted 20:59:13 (215505 turns). Dean the Archmag...

I don't think banishment chances or MR changed. Also dispersal only blinks you. Try wearing MR if you find it, it's nice. I use MR when I can get it. I may have mistaken the dispersal thing. I was bounce around a couple times and then I was in the Abyss. Must have been a invisible Orge mage or some...

I don't know if it is just RNG but... Has there has been some change to the chance of banishment or character magic resistence values? I seems to be end up in the Abyss more in 0.12 than any time before. Elven Halls, Ogre Mages, God Gifts, even Centaur with arrows of dispersal, what have you. About ...

Apart from my own dumb mistakes, I think I got trashed due to a teleport trap in the narrows on one side of the vault of Zot. Retreating from the vault to recharge, I ran into a Ancient Lich and a Orb of Fire. (I had cleared the rest of the level already.) Trying to escape them, I ran into a Electri...

For tougher monsters, like Trolls or Yaks, I like to build a row of Conjure Flame. You can usually get 3 if you plan it right. Saves on having to take too many hits while they fry. Even better if you can get an Imp to block the end. Works pretty well for a DEWz.

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I like the new symbol on potions and scrolls. I have to admit that some are hard to make out with my poor eyesight. Mostly the ones that are real busy or faint. It sucks getting old...

Haven't had a lot of experience escaping with the orb. Got drained by a ghost moth on Z3 and got beat up pretty good. Stopping to rest in the tiny room with the gate to Zot was a big mistake. Got trapped in there and beat up worse. Finally teleported out but died a couple steps from the stairs up to...

It is all moot now. YASD in hell. Not sure what went wrong. I was trying to escape with c-blink but couldn't seem to get it to work. Of course, the S part was due an earlier stupid gamble.

How useful is Tiamat's Dragonskin Cloak?

Haste - I have that I just need to work up to it being usable. Shield - I don't think I have anything else of note. Why do you rank Reflection so low? Controlled Blink - Another one I have to work up to... Wands - Normally I would have id'ed my wands. However, I used 17 Id scrolls on a Treasure Tro...

I may have to flip a coin. I was really looking for a reason that might disqualify a 15 rune run.

Orb of Zot is right in front of me. I've got a good character the can probably go for 15-runer. I have only gotten a 3-runer one or two times. I went for a 15-runner 3-4 other times but never successfully. So should I get the satisfaction of the 3 runner or go for the gold? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup ...

I have two +6/+3 rings of slaying. Do they stack in 0.10? Maxed to +7/+6 maybe?

I had one of the 4 shops on Orc4 turn out to be a mimic. Is that supposed to happen? (0.10) It was a jewelry shop and the others sucked. (Yes, I know. Crawl hates me.

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I think the only way out of that situation would have been to head for the exit with tornado to clear the way. As it was I danced around trying to recharge and recast tornado. There were just too many smiters. By the time I realized I was in trouble I was too far away. I was too over confident in my...

It was a hell of a run. In the end, I was having too much fun to just end it. Should have run for the exit instead of trying to win the level. This was pretty much first time for almost all of the extended-game. I had cleared Zot-5 early on. Had finished everything but Zig. All I needed to do was go...

Death by hubris and mutations... First Orb mutated my char with couple of the worst mutations for a melee char (Ill-fitting armor and -30% HP). Then I got caught in the open and didn't hasten (pun intended) to run away. I guess I should stop worrying about the extended game until I have mastered Zot...

All good points, thanks guys. I have a ton of alternate choices for a weapon. Anit-magic, flame, frost but no speed, though. Nothing with a base dam of the demon blade without going two handed. Long sword and Scimitars. Mutations are a worry. I -10% HP already and I don't have any potion of cure mut...

Got a decent Demonspawn tank going. Demon Blade with Vamp forgives a lot of mistakes. Not sure if he has what it takes to go for the post-game though. Only seen to Vestibule and Tomb before with another character. Issues I see are Torment and loss of Vamp health gains. I guess I should clear most of...

A crude robe. It got my DEWz hopes up for a second... O - the cursed -5 robe of Misfortune (worn) {-CAST MUT+ *TELE EV-4 Str-2 Dex-2 Int-2 Stlth-- Curse} (You took it off an orc on level 10 of the Dungeon) It affects your evasion (-4). It affects your strength (-2). It affects your intelligence (-2)...

Found a early (L10) Treasure Trove requesting 18 Identify scrolls. Had 14 at the time and found 6 more on the next two levels. So I figure why not. I get a trove with 16 pieces of jewelry. Had a detect curse scroll so I tried wearying them. None of the them self id'ed. I wonder how long it will take...

Maybe get a magic-user 3-runer first. Of course, I try to alternate melee and magic so maybe the next good melee will explore the post game.

After months of obsession, I have finally won one! Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.1 character file. 1393477 Denniz the Conqueror (level 27, 266/284 (286) HPs) Began as a Minotaur Berserker on July 30, 2011. Was a High Priest of Trog. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes (of 3 types) on July 31...

I found a room/vault of goodies that turned out to have mimics in a checkerboard pattern. Half the 32 items were mimics. None teleported, though. They just died and died...

Electric Brand + BIA + Shoals = YASD 203684 Denniz the Warrior (level 18, -14/182 HPs) Began as a Minotaur Berserker on June 20, 2011. Was a High Priest of Trog. Demolished by a rock troll (32 damage) ... summoned by the player character ... on Level 4 of the Shoals on June 21, 2011. The game lasted...

We that really makes it a YASD as I thought I was wearing a ring of protection from fire rather than a ring of fire. I didn't realize I was carrying the other. Well, now I know why I took so much damage so quickly. So close... :cry:

What can you say? Ran into a bunch of Klowns. First time in Zot. Got a couple early breaks on D10. A +3/+15 Broad Axe from Trog and a Crystal Plate Mail from the Bailey. Rode that all the way to Zot. Finished everything but Slime, Tomb and extended game branches. Was hardly breaking a sweat. Didn't ...

Finally, Trog gave me (MiBe) a good artefact that didn't get me killed. a - the +3,+15 broad axe "Quggiw" (weapon) {god gift, chop, Stlth++} (Trog gifted it to you on level 10 of the Dungeon) Of course, that could be partially becauce of the Crystal Plate Mail I found in the Bailey on the ...

534751 Denniz the Sorcerer (level 27, -10/144 (148) HPs) Began as a Demonspawn Conjurer on May 24, 2011. Was the Champion of Vehumet. Killed by the air ... invoked by a titan (33 damage) ... on Level 8 of the Vaults on May 29, 2011. The game lasted 21:37:49 (154691 turns). Maybe Ice Storm wasn't the...

Cleared D27, Blade, and Crypt. Deflect and Haste up to great. Found Swiftness as well. Big bonus was getting Hellfire mutation. One-shoted both the ancient liches with it in the crypt. Denniz the Sorcerer (Demonspawn Conjurer) Turns: 151347, Time: 20:58:38 HP 144/144 AC 27 Str 12 Exp: 26/1215754 (16...

mrbobbyg wrote:Not sure how far away you are from it, but shadow creatures is stupidly powerful in Zot. Even if you can only cast it at good/fair, it's worth it imo.

I have it. It is at great. Never used it before. Is it any good for Vault 8?

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