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I continued a conversation that hadn't reached a real conclusion due to it being shut down by a mod. The conversation had interesting points that went against popular ideas that are usually seen, so it was worth continuing to see where it went. The thread I created had a few people making good point...

The nerve of some people, trying to discuss things about a game in a forum for that game. It's a good thing there are heroes like you around.

That could work, or just two commands, stay behind me, or charge the enemies. Either way, really. But it is easier to win an argument with a strawman than to participate in a discussion. Stalking people on forums is just so cool. I guess you just really like me, but you don't know how to express it....

Something being annoying is not a balance feature. It doesn't make the game harder, it just makes it less fun. Crawl's design document is really clear about that. And combined with the fact that raising skeletons and/or zombies is very much optimal over not doing so (except troggies and good god fol...

Hello, folks, I'm going to present some lectures on topics that I have such a poor understanding of that the flaws in my reasoning will be obvious and unambiguous to experts on those topics. If any of those individuals take the time to respond to my points, it will probably become clear why my unde...

What was the personal accusation in that thread? It was you who started out with a totally rude tone out of the gate.

I picked love yred allies because they make you win(but really I just want to be friends with them, love is a bit strong). I picked never play Beogh, because the one time I played him I didn't enjoy it at all. I picked animate skeletons for winning, not fun. My main beef with allies is that they con...

Well, gamma seems to have shown that he's willing to lock threads he doesn't like. So yeah, I'm seeking that attention be paid to that, and it be dealt with. I posted his message back to me because he said in the part I bolded essentially "Don't disagree with me or I'll lock the thread". G...

Consider this idea: a "get behind me" command that is two keystrokes. When you issue this command (t g), first the game finds the average location of enemy monsters weighted by HD. Half of your LOS is closer to that location, and half of your LOS is farther from that location. Allies that ...

Well this was the explanation given to me: Your and Berder's posts--especially yours--often don't show good reasoning, so they get called out a lot by mods, devs, and regular posters alike. If you care about a topic at all, you should focus on that topic instead of turning threads into bouts of comp...

I would like to be made a moderator so I can always win internet arguments by locking the thread after I make my excellent points. Also, I'm making a new crawl branch called "Moderator mode" where you can lock monster's threads to stop them from hitting you with inconvenient arguments like...

How was it determined that stacking evokables degenerated badly? It seems pretty well accepted among the 'good players' that you can already carry all the evokers you find, so all the stacking did was eliminate inventory related tedium. Which, I thought, was the reason they were made stackable in th...

I think it's intended to go with Berder's now locked thread about a way to get minions out of your way, which went into a discussion about how perma allies kind of suck.

Well gamma just did the exact same thing, locking one of berder's threads on CYC while throwing out a couple of parting shots. This one didn't even have any reports, it was closed because Gammafunk didn't like it... https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=14857 I don't understand wh...

Ok, I just wanted to make sure it was in fact considered a bug.

The request was for a less micromanagey way of doing it though, not more. Less keystrokes required, at least. And if you think 'thank' volume is a good way to measure post quality... I don't even know what to say... :roll: Any time you would possibly want to "conserve" your "plain zom...

Well, it works a lot better than nothing. Yeah, it's certainly no guarantee. To be fair, a great sword is a fine weapon to get all 15 runes with. In fact, some might argue you're better off using the great sword instead of a triple, and spend the extra XP you would have had to spend on long blades s...

Acquirement is probably the most reliable (hah!) way to get a top end weapon. That or follow oka/trog, they'll usually get around to giving you a weapon of that type sooner or later.

Regardless of how you think zombies are 'supposed' to be used, currently you can already order them to retreat, and stay out of the way, and use your ranged attacks. It's in the game right now, and you can do it, but it's annoying. So when someone points out something that's "Optimal but tediou...

I'd guess you'd get it the same place as any non-octopode. From the floor! I have played a few OpFi, and they're suprisingly not horrible (well, not horrible is relative, you're still an OP after all). A shield, longsword, and constriction go a long way. Stealth is easy to get, and you get to be goo...

Regardless of all that, which is a totally valid debate, with Dith having his anti-fire conduct right now, the game should warn you before you do anything that causes penance, including firing lightning toward trees, don't you think?

I'd call all the ones on the top list mages, they appear to be built with spellpower in mind. They have varying degrees of skill with various weapons, but it looks like damaging spells were what they were mainly built for. The second list looked like what I'd call fighters, although it's true Ozo's ...

Yeah, but he doesn't have much earth magic skill. He does have tons of conjurations. Why fire a mediocre iron shot when you could fire a powerful orb of destruction instead?

What crate said is very true. Charging a group of monsters at the edge of LOS is the best way to end up in a bad situation. Drawing those enemies back a ways does a few things: It means you're fighting in a cleared area, meaning you won't draw additional monsters. It also means you get to pick the t...

My point was he needs to train nothing to cast OOD, which kills OOFs just fine. (That's obviously why they both start with the same two letters :lol:

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While LCS would work too, he needs to train a lot of earth to get that going.

Of course that's all moot if OOD isn't available.

Stoneskin is what, 4-6 additional AC now that you don't have to get a specific number in Earth? Ring of protection +4 is good enough item to wear during most of the game, ring of protection +6 is possible endgame material. When I had an ogre(with decent int) in the endgame, I pumped transmutation a...

It seems a bit against the spirit of the god to allow you to check out the stairway before you go down.

I don't know, complaining that the game doesn't allow pacifist runs is kind of like complaining that it's not possible to do a non-stealing run. Crawl is a game where you murder your way to Zot 5, stealing at least 3 runes along the way, so you can steal the orb. I mean, I guess you can do pacifist...

It would also be very nice, and maybe Berder's issue wouldn't matter anymore, if we could just give standing orders to our followers. Such as: Attack: 1. All targets once sighted, 2. All targets when player attacks, 3. Any enemies who attack the player, 4. Only attack adjacent enemies. So you could ...

Pacifist runs are horrible in Nethack and they're horrible here. If the game can bend far enough from its core concept to support that, chances are the game is already broken. Sad as it makes me, you may be right. If this can't be fixed, the Healer background probably deserves the same axe that Dea...

Regen's duration sucks at really bad spellpower, that's true. But it doesn't regen more HPs per second with more spellpower, at least, everything I've read states it's a flat increase to regen rate. Stoneskin is barely worth casting regardless of spellpower, except for statue form. Ozo's is great, i...

A character who relies on spellpower to do their damage to most threatening foes is wise to spend their XP and equipment slots on ways to increase their spellpower. One who relies on their weapon to do their damage to most threatening foes is foolish to spend their XP and equipment slots to increase...

Firestorm does work on orbs of fire, but at a reduced level of damage. Maybe it'll be fine for your character, I know it wasn't good enough on a DEFE of mine, but that was a generally poorly built character, relying completely on offense. Also, keep in mind, firestorm is insanely loud.

The discussion is mainly about whether it's true that most characters could easily be described as a 'fighter' or 'mage' and what those labels actually mean in the context of crawl. At least, that was my intention. As usual, it's also become a discussion about whether such labels are useful. And if ...

Dith was more anal about things like lightning before, and it was a lot to keep in your head and kind of arbitrary. I'm guessing this edge case wasn't thought of when that was removed. Does firing bolt of fire through a monster at a tree give a warning? Well, I'm pretty sure you'd get a warning for...

I'd rather have castable haste and cblink than extra powerful apportation (seriously?) and a spectral weapon with better defense (with a much higher investment in charms or hexes than I'd normally want to make). Or, alternatively, I'd rather have more HP, AC, and EV than a longer duration haste, and...

Yeah, if you've got the spell memorized you should always have a delayed fireball ready. Just cast it when you're not in combat, and then you've got a free instant fireball available on demand. For orbs of fire, has orb of destruction generate in your game? You have good conjurations skill, so you'd...

I understand the desire to propose radical ideas, but this one is particularly unrealistic: quite some time ago, we have started to cut level (it began with shrinking Hive from four to two floors). This process was intentionally slow. I am not a good judge to decide whether we should do more of thi...

More exits generate the deeper you go(More monsters too though). Still, I'd usually stay on abyss 1 if I'm just trying to get out.

I found this out in an unpleasant way, and nearly lost a promising character to Dith's wrath: Dith doesn't mind you shooting lightning bolts (Should he? They would obviously create lots of light) Dith very much minds you starting fires, which happens if a lightning bolt hits a tree. If you target a ...

If I want to cast haste, regen, cblink, blink, controlled teleport, phase shift, and other similar spells for a minimal investment, on a character who mainly kills enemies with physical attacks of some sort, I do NOT want wild magic. These are characters I'd call 'fighters' If I'm casting attack spe...

Well, the swarm rod won't incur penance unless you purposely kill your allies. It's not like the old version where Oka got mad when allies died for any reason.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be the default, I'm just saying nobody should advise anyone to use it. Like, go ahead and play your first few games on autoskill, and get an idea of how the game works. But then, if you are trying to win, it's a good idea to stop using autoskilling. I agree with the point...

Define robot.

On a HuGl who never presses 'm', who finds regeneration, how do I get it castable? I guess this player just says "100% fail, I guess Gladiators just can't cast spells". That is not teaching good crawl skills. I'm not saying I don't think auto-skilling should exist, but I am saying nobody s...

I guess the simplest division is this: Would you be happy to get the wild magic mutation? If yes, you're a mage, if no, you're a fighter. Or, similarly, would you rather get an item with Wiz or Archmage? Pretty much everyone uses weapons, and pretty much everyone uses spells, so they're worthless to...

Well, if I started a topic to call out each of your totally worthless topics, I'd have to create one for every single thing you're written. Because I've never seen you even attempt to do anything except derail threads and make unnecessarily long, uninspired, contradictory in some respects, and abov...

Ash is always a good choice on a SpEn. He'll make it a lot easier to branch into conjurations and such, and the boosts to your physical skills will obviously be handy.

One of the most fun characters I ever played was an OgWz of Veh. A legit hybrid, I found an early whip of elec, later replaced by a demon whip of elec, and a +0+9 ring of slaying. Had good int, and a PDA, so generally I blasted enemies with spells until they got in my face, then hit them until dead....

Even though I'm quite glad they removed the traps and doors skill, they really should pick one or the other. Either hidden traps are a thing, so we should have some degree of control over spotting them, or they're not a thing. This middle ground of hidden traps with no player control over detection ...

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