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Krakans can appear outside of shoals:5. They are pretty scary with their super long tentacles and massive damage.

Haha I questioned myself as I was posting but was too lazy to check..

I think item destruction is a nice way of teaching new players not to be pack rats. Why not use my scrolls of blinking when I'm likely to lose them later on anyway.

People are still going to stash items due to weight restrictions.

To join Sif I think you need to have memorised at least one spell.

Hmmm.. I think next time I play a Enchanter I will learn enslavement just to test it out. I think it being a level 5 spell is what was putting me off.

Daggers for stabbing as they get mad bonuses but if you are just going toe to toe with a monster switch to a saber or quickblade. Turn off ice unless you are planning to branch into ice magic - I wouldn't. I'd keep short blades on till you reach around 8 depending on what version you are playing in ...

The synergy between raise skele and inner flame sounds almost too good. Nice work.

Bots say three times the -EV of the armour.

Just blast strength unless you're worried about stat drain and int. You're always gonna be rubbish at evasion because of your large size and dex does not help unarmed combat according to the knowledge bots.

I've never had trouble in Shoals:5 unless there is a Kraken around. Those things are death machines. The tentacles move faster than a flying+swiftness glass canon can run and they hit harder than a stone giant. I've cleared the shoals quite a few times and the only times (3) I've died it has been to...

This reminds me of all the times I've done something stupid and got a powerful character killed then screamed in a mixture of rage a denial. My GF/flatmates would come running "are you hurt?"/"what happened?"/"What's wrong?". They don't understand, they can't understand...

Summon dragon is amazing - they last for ages and destroy everything.

It can summon gold, iron and quicksilver dragons which is disastrous for your enemies. It made fighting Bov trivial for me.

That being said I was a mummy of Sif at the time and so mana and food were not constraints.

In my experience summon demon is way better than summon ice beast. But this was from paying Mummy wizards of Sif = no worries about mana pool = keep summoning until you have a couple of 2's and heaps of 3's. I've never had any trouble with dealing with hostiles from summon demon, seems to be rare at...

Kiku only gives piety if you or your undead slaves kill thing, not other summons.

I've found getting the hang of bouncing hard as well. Both the multizap thread and the wiki were confusing to me. Perhaps it is because I use tiles where most of the advice is in ascii mode, I would ave though this made little difference though. I can see what you mean from your illustration though.

Lee's Rapid Deconstruction. Variously accused of being underpowered or something, but I cleared Elf, Pan and most of the Hells with it a few games ago. First time i saw my brother use this my jaw dropped. I still don't get why it's underpowered. Earliest smite targetting in the game that i can thin...

Could be a new spreadsheet project in order similar to the weapon damage spreadsheet. This would be more simple I think.

I had been trying to teach my flatmate the way of crawl and told him he should try out KoBe (I hadn't tried them but other had said they were good). He said that they were too fragile so decided to give one a try to see what he was missing. First one dies on level one. Second one wins. A great build...

It comes up as a status effect like regen when you kill something. I've only had it once and I died pretty quickly afterwards so I don't really know what it was doing.

Also try using the code format for easier reading.

The key for me has been the pain branded weapon. The beak and talons will still give aux attacks if you use a one handed weapon.

I feel like I've already got non-rN+ monster covered pretty well at this stage. I need a back-up for those monster who I can't deal with already.

Ater learning all those other spells I've got no spell levels left for bolt of draining anyway. With my whip and a couple of abom allies I've cleared the lair including taking on massive packs of elephants and death yaks in the open. Having some back-up really negates the effects of getting pushed a...

The whip is pretty godly against anything not resistant (2-3 shots per hydra). I'd imagine I'll keep it as my main weapon against non-resistant unless I come across a deamon whip. I'm planning on turning off m&f at 12 as that is enough for minimum delay but turning it off now probably wouldn't m...

I've had some luck, looted a whip of pain from the body of Pikel, already had some skill in m&f so didn't look back. Doing some pretty nice damage with it. Only using sting and meph cloud from my original book and pain, dis undead and agony from my necro gifts from Kiku. Also I have a book of po...

Mummy's also benifit marginally more from Che because of their less than average stats. ie an increase from 10 to 25 is more benificial than an increase from 25 to 40.

When it comes to uniques I usually mephitic cloud first and ask questions (hack to bits/run away) later.

Is there a limit on how slow you can get like there is with how fast? Looking at the wiki and learndb it doesn't seem like it. A naga with a full set (although getting a naga barding is another story) of pounderous armour would be moving at speed 24 rather than 20 for a normal worshipper of Che. Thi...

Even if you don't want to be a tansmuter you will probably want to learn spider form if you can for escaping bad situations. This would link well with Naga's poison aptitudes. Also you would need blink to help get outta trouble, especially with control teleport. Without either of these options you a...

Starting with a potion of mutation would lead to some extreme scumming opportunities.

To be clear you can't get the orb itself before doing the hells. You can kill everything up to the orb, not pick it up and then do the hells but once you pick up the orb it's time to leave the dungeon.

Famous last words? I'd be very worried going anywhere near Zot:5 with those resistances. Maybe consider switching to TSO before doing the crypt, Okie wrath isn't to bad although you might want some elec resistance in case of titan attack. TSO will give you some extra options, with more defences (+++...

Yep that's what i meant. Thanks.

I've got a love/hate relationship with Saint Roka. I love the name and backstory but I hate how he always has a flaming bardiche or some such.

@mageykun Both the amulet and the sling are randarts

A list of things that particularly need changing and are easy to drag out of the manual or test in wizard would be useful here I think.

Yeah you get the 'you feel more experienced' message. I don't know if it reduced or anything though.

Is it worth carrying round a really bad damage weapon +5, -5 dagger so that you can still train fighting but don't kill those squishy monsters so fast?

That is a classic move for anyone with mephitic cloud or evaporate. My favouraite is when you get that vault of centuars surrounded by deep water. Usually so dangerous but with this tactic, hilarious.

@IndomitableLou That's exactly how it was, I could have easily saved him many times but just couldn't be bothered/didn't really care about him. Compare that to before I shuffled when I was being extremely cautious. Losing interest is especially deadly for glass cannons. Another entry for my stupid d...

Changed to Nemelex, got a bunch of decks of wonders - pulled so many cards of experience - none of shuffle. Got frustrated and then reckless in the elf halls and got myself killed. Lesson well learnt.

The ability to summon a cloud of seething chaos could be fun.

@lucy I agree but should I stick with Nemelex after I get my Int back? Seems like his abilities wouldn't be that useful, although tomb + vitri + fire storm does sound like fun.
If I was going to change should I switch back to Vehemut or worship Kiki for some necromutation and sublimation?

Unfortunately I'm playing on 7.1 so Ash isn't an option.

Makhleb is always a nice choice.

So I started a DEWz and the first book I found was a book of air, repel missiles and swiftness made the early levels a joke. I devoted myself to Vehumet and before you knew it I'd found flight as well and got a few levels in fighting. I had cleared the lair, orc mines, hive, swamp, snake pit and jus...

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