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The wall thing is great, I'll put it in right now.

So with the new air elementalist book in trunk right now I thought it would be good to resurrect this thread for people's zapping enjoyment. The crawl wiki's page on multizapping is still wrong. I will get to that in a bit. For now I wrote a strategy guide on the wiki for using shock effectively whi...

You can probably tell that I for one love this change. It makes AE more interesting and less like wizards. It puts AE in with the other elementalists in the fact that you no longer need to go with one of the magic gods just to get the spells you need to get though the lair. Want to make a KeAE hybri...

I had a game where I found no poison resistance until zot. By then I certainly didn't need it.

Once you get good at bolt bouncing everything you fight with shock, lightning can be extremely strong. You can kill a dragon in one hit with it by quadzapping. I like this change since it gives AE a viable spell through the midgame like all of the other elemental starts have so you don't feel you ha...

This is a thread for things that you have had to look up using spoilers that probably should be in the game manual. For those things that a new player to the game would look at and ask "what does that even mean?" So I am not talking about the super spoiliery spoilers like how many hitpoint...

Well there you go. I didn't realize ugly things left skeletons. Can ugly thing skeletons be animated with Animate Skeleton or the like? Shadow dragons are also strange. After getting used to HCL corpses not being able to be raised, you can get shadow dragon zombies.

It is pretty hit or miss actually. The rule of thumb for raising dead for me is "does it have a skeleton?" If you can make a skeleton out of it, you can raise it as a zombie. So you can't use raise dead on eye corpses, giant amoebas, or necrophages either. I think you can make a zombie out...

In short I think in difficulty the extended game looks like Easiest < --- Abyss, Pan, Dis, Tartarus, Cocytus, Gehenna, Tomb ---> Hardest. Although many would argue the tomb may be easier then some of the hells. It is still an awful place. The shining one is helpful in the extended game for 4 main re...

And even before you get 14 evocations to make it always trigger it is a pretty good melee weapon. Your spell caster usually wants a few levels of fighting for hit points at some point anyway and the enhancer staffs are certainly better then picking up a mace or something. The amount you hybridize is...

Zot traps will appear all over the place, not just in Zot. Blade Traps can be a pain in the butt if you don't have decent EV. T&D is fine as is. If it's extended we're talking about, you're going to want maybe even just a few levels for Tartarus. Bugger Ereshkigal and her hide and seek! Yeah wi...

I think the current system is neat. I like getting better at things that my character actually does in game. Although if it fixes victory dancing and keeps the skill system in place I won't complain. I am not sure why anyone would pick automatic when they could select manual allocation of skills. Wo...

So I killed an orc today with my stack of bread rations. Trying to figure out how I was doing damage. Why was I beating up an orc with bread? Well that is another story I guess. I didn't have any rings of slaying on, but the orc was stupefied by zin, which I think behaves like paralysis. I think I m...

If you haven't done pan yet I have almost always found it easier then both the tomb and the hells. Control Teleport always works on every level and you are not being blasted by hell effects. The pan lord bosses are harder then the hell bosses but you don't have to fight any of them. Most of them you...

The breath ability is pretty nice support for DrBe. Remember that it is there and soften up anything that looks remotely threatening with it. It is not incredible but it is usually comparable to shooting arrows at it first. If an enemy has no ranged attack you can wait for it to recharge while runni...

Woo a 9 runer. I was mostly just seeing the changes to EE in the upcoming version and was surprised to see that EE are much much easier now. I decided to just end the game after I had killed Mnoleg and was so happy about it I left the level without the rune. I tried killing Ceberov three times and d...

"You open the skeleton like a pillowcase!"

Reducing MR when Hex spells are resisted is a good idea. The amount of reduction should clearly depend on the Hex spell (level and/or power). Second, we can indicate the reduced MR (both in the monster's description, and probably also as a flag, like "wandering", "distracted"). ...

Silence is a charm used as a debuff against monsters. I suppose it is cast centered on yourself but it is also strange. It seems to me like the split right now is charms for the crusader play style of magic boosted basher, while hexes are all great for the stabber. This is regardless of whether the ...

I have been playing with EE in trunk, and despite the triple ac check LRD has been very useful throughout the entire mid game. By the time that I got to some highish AC monsters I had iron shot lined up and there was no problems. So as it stands petrify in the start spell book makes LRD as it stands...

I cheated once or twice when I first started. It almost always was a case of... "well this character is dead because I have wandered into a situation that there is no escape from so lets turn on wizard mode to keep playing for 30 or so minutes so I am not bored starting a new character." E...

On the idea to make MR in general be reduced when monsters resist. This could open up the practice of using cheap hexes to soften up enemies before you blast them with something more powerful/expensive. Say using confuse a bunch before spending the piety to try to banish a high MR enemy. The partial...

I wish it was possible to play a good summoner. TSO and Zin are possible, but not very practical. Ely would be awesome, but it just isn't practical due to the piety hit of allies dying. Summon Hydra and Dragon in trunk did help with this. Good summoners are pretty viable, although without haunt and...

Small thing which would make me happy: In tiles you can see travel exclusions without having to go to the map which is nice. When I play in ascii I sometimes foolishly blunder into an excluded area because I could not see my exclusion. I am sure I should be more careful but it would be nice if there...

Note that ctrl+x will only view items on the top of stacks until you visit them and look to see what is there. Luckily autoexplore will by default visit these stacks so you know what is there. As for colors: The text colors are actually the same as in the tiles set, but this is more noticeable Artif...

I usually clear the hive with my IE without much throw icicle at all. Then again I usually do the hive before I need to to mix things up sometimes. I like killing bees what can I say. If you are careful you can avoid getting massively swarmed by leading 2-6 bees after you at a time. Throw frost will...

I have stepped on a zot trap in hive before. That is a good way to get paralyzed without noticing the zot trap message. What with all the bees stinging you to death.

I like the new sticky flame. Play a SpFE or FeFE and see how awesome the not missing is. Step 1, catch on fire maybe get hit. Step 2: run away.

Also remember that monsters have two levels of invisibility detection: "sense" and "see". "See" is just like the player. "Sense" means they have a better chance of guessing where you are, but they still can't aim directly at you. On the other hand sense invis...

I know TSO hates the demonic summoning spells. So in addition to the necromancy spells, TSO doesn't like shadow creatures, summon demon, summon greater demon, or summon horrible things.

I wasn't aware that thrown weapons which can also be used as hand weapons (daggers, axes, spears, clubs) mulched at all. These don't do very much damage or are particularly accurate. On the other hand, the returning brand pretty much gives you a ranged attack that you can use again and again for fre...

Basically, recognize that Tomb is Fantasy F---ing Vietnam and act accordingly. Tomb is designed under the Tomb of Horrors or Tucker's Kobolds philosophy of game design, where you're heading into intrinsically dangerous territory against an implacable enemy that knows the terrain and will use it aga...

dolphin wrote:If you have good ideas for plants, see New Plant Monsters. But yeah, I would like to see some more plants for Fedhas eventually, though I think other gods have more pressing problems.

This is great! I had missed the thread while I was browsing the wiki I suppose.

I know there was discussion about making fedhas more interesting so I thought I would make a thread to discuss it. I feel that more interesting flora would make fedhas more fun to play. Right now we just get mushrooms, oklobs, and spores/ballistomycete which are great and all, but every time I pick ...

Kiku is not the best god choice for wizards, but is a good choice. The wizard spells are great support spells for necromancers. -You get your first book at just one * of piety. You can then get vampiric draining as your interim damage spell for when magic dart alone won't cut it. -Blink allows you t...

A lot of transmutations can wear hats but not helmets. But it is good to note that hats don't provide any extra AC. So unless it is enchanted in someway they are kinda pointless.

On the other hand. They look cooler in tiles.

Pros: Javelins are awesome. They do far more damage per hit then the other ranged attacks. Steel javelins are monstrous.

Cons: Javelins are awesome, even if you don't train throwing at all. So I tend not to train throwing anyway.

Slightly off topic but it is good to note that the shield value SH works the same as EV. Shields are a separate check to see if a monster hits you or not. Because of this shields are in fact great for almost all character builds. However, spell casters have to take spell penalties into consideration...

The first time I cleared the tomb I just used summons and firestorm. The key is to only fight mummy priests and greater mummies one at a time. So again take it slowly. (especially if you have only Whenever there was more then one coming at me I would run up stairs, use demonic horde to pin them and ...

Fireball may do less damage then bolt of fire but it never misses. I have always found it better against those pesky high EV creatures. Delayed Fireball makes it even better.

Also I have found SpFE get along with the new sticky flame quite nicely.

You know what would be neat? If Stealth can make the enemies who chase the character lose him. This is already the case. When the monster is chasing you and it reaches the last known position you've been, there's a one chance in stealth/3 that it will keep chasing you. This isn't very well done, be...

For snake 5 you could use your amulet of stasis to prevent being teleported square into the middle of the naga vault. If you use it to cancel the teleport it will glow you though. I second only fighting only one greater naga at a time. Two of these will slice through your balrugs like butter.

Well now I hope I can try this without dieing horribly. I am thinking now it may be better to seal off the vault that it spawns in before it wakes up so I don't have to even risk being next to it.

In particular I want to know how feasible it is for a fehdas worshiper to trap the royal jelly with rain, and which if any of its spawns can also swim. Since I will probably die horribly before I am ready to decend the Pits I wanted to see if it was even hypothetically a good idea. The royal jelly, ...

Also because you can get free off hand unarmed attacks at relatively fast speed at higher levels of UC monks end up making quite a few checks with to confuse the enemy while at the same time doing the damage you would be doing normally. So even if the confusing touch check fails each time for the du...

The -2 UC and the -2 to fighting does indeed hurt a lot in the early game. In particular character level 1 can involve lots of running away. Once you have evaporate you end up using that quite a bit against anything that is remotely threatening. However, once you can get spider form at least cast re...

Don't forget that awesome extra kick attack centaurs can get when attacking in melee.

SpTm are interesting too. That +3 to transmutations goes to waste in a lot of spriggan builds. The early game can be challenging as you have to get over the food-cost hump of the tranformations. However, once you can cast blade hands at an acceptable hunger level they become extremely powerful.

SpNe worked very well for me. They have a -1 skill in necromancy which causes no problems at all (same as kobolds). Your High EV and lots of mp from spellcasting makes vampiric draining even more awesome as you can usually get it off a few times between getting hit. That was the game I learned that ...

From a player who still sometimes just quaffs mutation potions for the heck of it. And yes I have ruined (I mean made awesome) a fair share of characters this way. I remember that your chances of getting a good mutation are better then your chances of getting a bad mutation from potions of mutation....

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