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I know what the word comes from, it doesn't really change that it's not a word I would ever use in my day to day life

the thoroughly non-generic experience of googling "dcss hells", clicking the wiki page, then clicking on the tartarus link and reading until I find on that page the name of the enemy in order to copy and paste it itt

Disagree, anyway. Having at least some recognizably-named species is good for accessibility to newbies. It's also nice for people who aren't new, but just like those previously established things. "Uniqueness" is not the most valuable thing in the world, and chasing it above all else is n...

Relatedly, hellcrawl has no identification at all. All items are always identified. I rather like it because if a mechanic is not good enough to last a whole game, it shouldn't be in the game at all. I don't like item ID in crawl, but I also don't agree with this idea wrt game design at large. I wa...

I think most people just mean something that's trivial to kill, though XP is also part of it. Shmup players call lots of little weak enemies popcorn, because of the constant popping noise from them all exploding as they fly onscreen into your bullets. I wonder if there's an etymological link between...

It's probably possible to splatter TRJ with the dark maul+boots/hood of the assassin and even just distraction

I really wonder when I would ever level dex instead of str, post the rework where weapon stat scaling was changed so only str increases damage.

it feels weird to divide it like this and also include summoning spells(and animate dead) because if you start training summoning spells as a blasty caster it will pretty quickly become a major part, if not the biggest part, of how you do damage instead of direct damage spells e: am I really the onl...

it's a good spell obviously, but I'm curious why this is.

"Time Unit/TU" is already used in some old games like XCOM which roguelike players are relatively likely to be familiar with, so there's a familiarity upside with that option.

If you thought about it, I think you would find you agree with my other arguments in this thread as well. Yes, of course. Obviously, if everyone just thought about it, they would all agree with you, because your opinion is fundamentally correct and superior. I don't want to play crawl without items...

"Zealot" in crawl is not a flavor category, it's a gameplay category. It means "You will have a god from the start", which is a big deal. Not because you accumulate a bit more piety before finding altars, but because you can use god abilities to save yourself from dangerous thing...

Very slowly.

You should at least do part of a Zig, early on they're not hard and can still be a good XP source.

But it would, because it would make it a lot less random if you can veto things. You are supposed to adapt to the mutations you get, not the other way around.

isn't literally the whole point of ds that you get mutations at random? why should the player have more control over them? if you want more control over your species traits, you can play literally every other species besides draconian

sardonica wrote:I think this goes too far. The many flavors of elemental damage are pretty interesting.

I don't really think "the same as non-elemental damage except sometimes there's an enemy it doesn't work on so you end up using non-elemental damage anyways" is that interesting.

Not directed at one specific person-if you mean "difficult" to only mean "difficult for the best players", you're talking about something which is not what most people think of when they hear the word "difficult". Normally when people say something is difficult they mea...

My memory may be failing me but I'm pretty sure that part of the reason I started this thread was because I got shafted three floors on swamp:1 despite having boots of flying active and died a few turns later to a pack of Hydras/Blink Frogs I got landed next to. So While I like your idea, flying, s...

If swamp drakes don't get removed, I would love for something to be done about how you basically just cannot take beogh orcs into swamp because if they ever get confused(highly likely) they will probably wander into water and instantly die

the maze was boring and tedious. you just walk around, it's pure trial and error. all that the minivaults mean is sometimes there are hungry ghosts or redbacks but who cares?

The idea is not to let this kind of challenge very long, @VeryAngryFelid, to avoid this kind of behaviour. Maybe we could change the rule a bit to avoid this. 1 : You can try the map 1,2 or 3 times, and after X people have tried the map (whether they have won or not), race/specie/map combo change. ...

Constantly switching weapons gets really tedious. While not optimal, a distance damage penalty would be preferable to forcing a weapon swap to attack adjacent creatures. This is from a fan of non-optimal, lazy play-style (autoexplore, tab, cleaving, etc). I would probably never use ranged if no adj...

Scuka wrote:"Players don't know what a particular game mechanic does, so let's remove the game mechanic". Is this for real?

Clarity is one of the most important aspects of game design, and often that means paring things down from where you started to communicate more efficiently.

I'm not sure how anything changes from a UI perspective,The squares closer to you that aren't targetable are just like the squares that are too far away, and if something is in the way but too close, your shot just doesn't hit anything (I guess 'shooting past' something at something else might be i...

(2) Apart from / instead of corpse rotting, followers of Fedhas gain piety from 'the spreading of vegetation' (after all Fedhas is the god of plant, not the god of rotting :D ). Fedhas is not the god of plants, they are the god of the natural order of life and death-which is to say, the circle of l...

How would you automatically path to up or down staircases from the X view then?

Also I'm curious in what situation people are running into this happening, I don't think it's ever happened to me.

Code:: a - the +9 lajatang of the Other Side (weapon) {freeze, *Drain rPois rF+++ Dex+7}.

Yeah, I'll swap to staves for that one.

I never would have guessed that Regeneration would place so highly here. This is not surprising to me, but dialogue is different on tavern than other places. Regeneration is a spell that lots of people like to get because it makes you at least feel a lot safer to have a form of healing. It's a spel...

There were also a lot of dumb extra armor types like banded mail(fuck you, Samuel Rush Meyrick!), often bad as well. I agree that having bad items is not fundamentally a bad thing though. And I also do not agree with the idea that everything needs to be designed around avoiding "no-brainers&quo...

I may use club instead of dagger.

Huge agree on portal entrance vaults upon announcement. I think this will shrink the gap between weak and strong characters in finding the portals hugely, and I'm very over trying to find these based on the messages.

In the 2nd case the manual isn't interesting - at most the char may train some point extra of that skill, or earlier, because it is cheaper, but that will change almost nothing. But it feels good. Not everything needs to be a decision, sometimes it's just nice to find stuff which helps you in a str...

I personally find that item gifting with beogh is very onenote once you understand how monster attacking works, because you always want to give your orcs fast polearms if they don't have them. I would definitely be in favor of choosing who to promote though. Or anything that makes orc filtering less...

a lot of people dislike "merry" because it's not badass but that's actually what makes it good

draining resistance might be ok.

I think that ranged noise should definitely happen at the attacker's tile, not where it hits. It's better for gameplay and the flavor can be argued either way just fine(some weapons it makes more sense for most of the noise to happen at the attacker, like shooting a crossbow, others more sense at wh...

This is the first I've heard of Hep being considered weak.

I don't think I would describe that as interface screw, just doing a couple different actions instead of one action. Maybe my standards are weird though.

Of your spelllibrary animate dead\skeletons are the only spells really good but allies interact badly with ranged combat - at best, they are an annoying interface screws You could get portal projectile, though. And there's nothing wrong with standing back as zombies melee things, and then start sho...

This is true. Sometimes randomly getting very strong is a big part of what makes roguelikes popular, it scratches a skinner-box esque itch. There's always(or often) a feeling you could find something awesome that makes you really powerful, and for a lot of people, that is the main draw.

Aren't ugly things fast

By that logic Lernaean hydra ought to be nerfed because it has huge kill rate, but that kinda ignores all the things that are good at killing lerny and how most people who die to it are just tabbing around through swamp

What's the value in replacing "dryad" with "dryad, except most people won't recognize it"?

There are reasons people commonly crib from certain fantasy archetypes.

duvessa wrote:If you think this was wack, you really don't understand how much non-buckler shields sucked in old versions.

It stuck around longer than that though. People were saying not to use shields as late as 0.14 in some places.

You super do not need to stash in this game anymore.

There was also a period where it was "conventional wisdom" to never use shields which was pretty wack

pointedly not mentioning conjurations

Is "pure summoner" an archetype that should be supported in Crawl? Is standing back and summoning waves of creatures for every fight interesting gameplay? Crawl doesn't have pure invokers, pure charmers, pure translocators, or pure evokers to name a few despite these being very strong sch...

No potions is what makes mummies interesting. And to some extent bad apts putting them lower than normal on the skill curve, but that's not as big of a deal.

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