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I think the fundamental problem with strategic HP is that it encourages you to do what you can to not take damage, ever, and that encourages degenerate gameplay. I'm not really sure how the OP's proposal would work — if Mak doesn't really heal you but instead increases damage shaving, you still need...

FR: Dragonform gets cleave

The term "shaft" is probably not great, considering how they actually work now. "Level teleporter?"

Eos is a reasonable weapon. It's like an elec broadaxe w/o the cleave effect. You will do better with +9 eveningstar or a good demon whip brand The other important difference between Eos and a +9 branded eveningstar is that the OP actually has Eos Anyhow my take is that Leech is the stronger weapon...

Also, if miscasts are going to use tactical effects, it might make sense to go for ones that can't be rested off — maybe instead of dimension anchor, word of recall or teleport to monsters? I'm not sure what you'd swap in for slow, though... Also, a new monster introduced just for summoning miscasts...

Having looked at the commit messages here (and tried source-diving, but Crawl's code is generally quite mysterious to me) I don't see how the miscast effects as described are particularly confusing. Fire miscasts do fire damage. Summoning miscasts can summon a hostile monster. Charm and hex miscasts...

You're right, I am totally misinterpreting how monster energy works. Gak.

For one single little anecdote: I've been playing on and off for a long time, and this thread was the first time I realized that weapon delay is just the number of ten-aut-units it takes to use the weapon. (God, I hope this is actually correct.) I'd always thought "oh, 0.6 is just some unitless...

In Crawl, allies are pretty strong. Necro gets you lots of allies, for cheap, that scale with monster strength. Also borg's and ddoor are pretty good. Having Animate Dead cause a little bit of rot (healed by XP) would still lead to me raising some zombies, but I'd need to think a bit about when to u...

Hellmonk wrote:xp-gated rot sounds a lot better than rot that you cure with a common potion, or xp-gated skill drain for that matter. Perhaps the time has come to merge these mechanics.

Oh my goodness if Ru could literally rot you to death it would be amazing

Walk in shallow water: slowing in shallow water is ok, as it is a physical barrier that slows you down. The description of Swiftness: Calls forth winds to greatly increase the caster's movement speed. After the effect ends, the caster's movements will be sluggish for a time. suggests Swiftness shou...

svendre wrote:The only serious argument for a necromancy spell that towers over the rest is vile clutch, by no small margin.

Animate Skeleton

My take is that the stocastic approach sounds more crawl-like than the same-game approach, and as others have pointed out, it's not super different than the existing uniques mechanic. There's some complexity in this approach (you probably shouldn't be able to meet two asterions in the same game, but...

Ah... if it's a bcrawl mod, I'm betting they don't do 100% ammo mulch. Mixing that with *Curse sounds super frustrating.

Wait, did Damnation always have *Curse?

IMO necromutation gets a little too much hate just because it's so much worse than other necro spells close to it in level I think it's mainly because it's double-school with tmut, so you need to dump a ton of XP into a spell school you (almost certainly) aren't otherwise using just so you can be i...

make it the Amulet of Anatomical Improbability, which has only the effect of letting the wearer wear two amulets, one of which is this amulet

have Xom gift it every once in a while

IMO attacking allies should neither anger them nor cause penance. Hurting your ally is already penalized by you hurting your allies... and there are so many weird edge cases like this one where you should probably get warned or explosions should be disabled or your ally should escape damage or somet...

If you use Sniper, remember that it'll give monsters a bunch of time to do stuff before you get a chance to act again. Also remember that you have Oka's heroism which will make it take less time to fire. Personally, I'm of the "if I find an unrand and it looks fun, use it unless it is abjectly ...

TheMeInTeam wrote:stones (inexpensive item to throw to aggro with minimal noise, though the monster will still make noise).

There's still magic missile...

most of the problems of water What's wrong with shallow water? * flying negates it * it debuffs non-aquatic monsters (unless they're above some size I forget or probably some other edge case) so if you're fighting a vulnerable monster, flying is very strong * for some reason hydras (and... only hyd...

I guess: Do you want to win, or have fun? If you want to win, svendre has good advice. If you want to have fun, grab the plutonium sword because it is fun and when are are you going to see it again on a character that can even arguably use it?

If you're engorged, you can hit 5 until you aren't engorged anymore. And you can always... not eat until engorged. There's no reason to do it except "I'm wearing gourmand and it is convenient to eat all the chunks." It's not like you're gonna be cramming down rations in dangerous areas.

The big problem with disappearing imps is that strong characters would get the XP from them and get stronger, while weak characters don't. Crawl doesn't need Mario Kart-style rubber banding to make weak characters stronger, but it's probably best if the game tries to limit the ways strong characters...

If you have zephyr, you should definitely not be a pure melee character. It's one of the very best weapons in the game. Also you have portal projectile which makes it even more great; basically you have an LCS-class attack, except smite-targeted and at full LOS range. Dunno about new singing sword b...

Crawl's UI does not seem like something that would work very well on a console. It'd be hard to play well without a keyboard, I think.

Frostbite is a special case; it puts freezing clouds on targets and freezing cloud does a ton of damage over time.

My guess is that even without that, though, the war axe will not shine. A +8 exe axe is pretty boss if you can skill up for it, which as an MiBe you absolutely can.

Abyss is "walk around for 20 min+ and then find a lightning-themed rune vault and you don't have rElec but you're so frustrated you try for the rune anyway" except very rarely you get pulled somewhere in abyss and then there's the rune

it'd fit thematically as a Maxwell item

...which I guess are also a real-world reference so

IIRC, ally AI is kind of counterintuitive. I haven't played much with allies in a while, but generally I remember that you want to give them commands fairly often. They don't always just go and attack stuff, but going 'ta' will let you choose a target and 'tg' basically lets them off their leash to ...

byrel wrote:phantoms (which are actually a good monster for teaching EV starts about parking, since they can kill you.)

Phantoms seem more like a monster who teaches you to reset fights over and over until things go well — I think they have many of the same design problems as crimson imps.

Giving call imp to imps who can call imps who may in turn have call imp could make... a lot of imps

svendre wrote:3) The percentage of the game where a character isn't able to immediately splatter them like popcorn is very small.

The thing that sucks here is that during that percentage of the game, they're worth a fair chunk of XP and are definitely worth plinking to death.

There will always be cases where your damage output exactly matches some monster's regeneration rate... That said... monster regen+ is really annoying for low-damage characters and might be replaced by more HP or AC or additional damage or something. Melee-only monsters with Blink can also be pretty...

I would not make Drain Life an ability, because spamming abilities to heal sounds terrible. I'd just make them heal on kills.

In general, I think making DD into an undead-ish species that heals this way makes sense.

IMO current Vine Stalker is a pretty good example of a good Crawl vampire-like species

Just had a mini-optimization problem in my brain here: Let's say you're playing Be. Considering piety decay, recovering from berserk, and the time it takes to lure monsters to safe places, how often should you be killing things with zerk? * In basically every fight? * In every fight that'll take mor...

For what it's worth: I was not trying to be a jackass with my answer. I interpreted the OP's question as "why does something bad happen to me when a monster steps on the trap, what if something good happened to me instead?" and I thought saying the design intent of traps was to harm the pl...

1) It's an arbitrary breakpoint, one which makes fights occurring at 99% XP significantly different from those occurring at 1% XP. I'm guessing that by "healing on experience" they meant "healing on experience", not "healing on level up". Oh true. The problem of wasted...

In my opinion, DD should be a totally no-healing species. So max HP = current HP. The problem with this approach is that it means playing DD becomes an exercise in "avoid taking damage at all cost because every single HP you lose is one you've lost forever" and Crawl gives you a lot of wa...

VeryAngryFelid wrote:It depends. For character in CPA it is almost always optimal to train weapon/shield to min delay even with Oka.

Why?

labs were the only thing that kept the 'o' key from wearing out

I am trying to find something bad to say about that armour but I am coming up blank

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I actually like chaos brand. It can do some dangerous stuff (hasting/berserking/duplicating monsters) but it also does a ton of damage and also does things like slow and paralyze monsters.

kcfos wrote:Why does an enemy walking over the trap put a mark on me?

Because traps are designed to be harmful to the player.

Right... you don't want to waste invocations on popcorn. But in general, it's much much better to open strong than finish strong — if you're going to need to quaff !might, it's way better to do it before you start the fight than after you've realized regular melee won't work. You don't need to spend...

The short version of it is that I generally reserve mana for spells before invocations. I use invocations which pull a substantial amount of piety as a last resort, and that isn't so frequent, therefore there is often enough piety without the need to boost it. If a lot of the invocations that spend...

Hey folks, if you have more discussion on how much damage various monsters can do and how best to deal with them, that's probably a good topic for Advice. I'd split the thread and move the posts but it's pretty messy.

If changing the way player resistances works makes a single monster too dangerous, it is also possible to rebalance that monster. I think the "please consider OOF damage if rF changes" point has been pretty well covered in this thread.

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