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Unless I'm mistaken, cblink also causes contamination, so you can't just keep bopping all over the place until your MP runs out. But yeah, contamination is a system you don't interact with much; it's more of a regulator to keep you from overusing some strong effects or casting spells with high fail ...

Yeah -- I noticed them paralyzing an OOF; alas, there were so many abyss mobs that I couldn't actually get to it to bludgeon it.

Interestingly, they also seem to aggressively attack player-allied summons.

Corruption is god-damned fantastic, by the way. OOFs and aliches kind of overpowered it on Zot:5, but even in Vaults:5 it took care of really a massive number of the monsters.

Won!

38 regular shops and three bazaars for, I believe, a total 50 shops. My vault-reading skills are not super great, so I could be wrong there.

So, I use Lugonu's corruption on a level. The monsters are neutral. They mostly (but not completely) ignore me, but seem to wreck all the hostile monsters they can see. They seem to do some really non-neutral things (eg, starcursed masses scream at things, worldbinders summon stuff). How do neutral ...

Vaults don't show in the dump until the game is over, right?

No! I really like needing to say explicitly "I want to go down to Vaults:5" or whatever. My brain farts sometimes and I'll stand on a downstair and press "<" and Crawl will be all "no you can't do that" and I say "whew I didn't want to go down anyhow."

Holy crap. V:5 delivers: Shops: D:6 }??* D:7 =[*(} D:11 = Orc:2 !*:} Elf:2 :?[%% Elf:3 } Snake:1 ! Vaults:1 ? Vaults:2 ( Vaults:4 } Vaults:5 =[:=?%?!%?!?! Depths:4 * 38 shops. And now I have enough !curing to hit up that trove without thinking twice. Because I totally need whatever's in that trove. ...

Kinda? But it's not like I really need much of what's in the shops. I have all the consumables I need, and it's not like three more lightning rods or two more lamps of fire are gonna do me any good.

Yeah, and really I don't just care about damage, I also care about blink, tele, and banishment and fsim doesn't sim those. I suspect that a disto spear is a fine endgame weapon, to be honest.

Thought this was fitting

Code:: The mace of distortion is devoured by a tear in reality. _Lugonu claims a new guest.

D:6 }??* D:7 =[*(} D:11 = Orc:2 !*:} Elf:2 :?[%% Elf:3 } Snake:1 ! Vaults:1 ? Vaults:2 ( Vaults:4 } Depths:4 * Yep, I'm not done looking around Elf:3 and that's 25 shops. There are six sacks of spiders sitting in gadget shops. Also: You have visited 3 bazaars.

Huh, thanks. I remember javelins being super strong, guess not quite so much now.

The more I think about it, the more I realize I should not have tried to mess with that vault, and just kept running away until I either found an easier situation or just found the rune laying around.

Enchantress had a buckler of protection she was kind enough to donate to my cause, so I'm wearing that now and can apport and shroud and butterfly and soon will be raising some zombies. Dunno why I forgot shields had such a big effect on spell success; I just kept thinking "I don't remember cas...

Here's me: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20-a0-1122-gb7cbeb9 (console) character file. njvack the Slayer (Demonspawn Abyssal Knight) Turns: 72958, Time: 10:26:38 HP: 200/200 (201) AC: 31 Str: 23 XL: 23 Next: 92% MP: 36/36 EV: 10 Int: 13 God: Lugonu [****..] Gold: 1903 SH: 17 Dex: 15 (16) Spells...

If you're with lucy you can also go to abyss if you're gonna die in V:5, plus you can gate in a ton of abyss beasts to wreck everything else on the level. I imagine "hatch in, if you're in a bad area, read ?noise, corrupt, and tele out once things get scary" is not a terrible plan actually...

Thanks, I did manage to gank the rune. Corruption in slime does sound easier.

Playing DsAK, I figure "Abyss has to be easier than Vaults:5, I have Lucy" Good GOD DAMN trying to get the rune out of vaults there though, there's just an endless stream of so many regular ol' Abyss monsters that fighting my way in was terrible. And yeah I can bail but to try again hahaha...

If you really want to stick to a ranged only conduct, do two kinds of launchers with one of them slings. You'll have no problems. You'd probably need to start slings and startscum the early game to make sure you had enough rocks and an early altar. I think it would be a very tedious game :/ wait ho...

It's a spell I always use; I should really just macro 'c' to cast it

One other thought: what if, every two levels starting at level 3, you got the ability to move a stat point from one category to another. So, over the course of your game (assuming you make it to XL27), you would eventually get chances to re-allocate all background's stat points. This way, background...

zackoid wrote:MORE IMPORTANTLY it would ruin one-and-winning, which is the only fix for those of us in checklisting withdrawal after finishing the greatlists.

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I feel really dumb but I have no idea what this means

tabstorm wrote:How about making LCS have bolt targetting/penetration instead, to differentiate from iron shot? In practice it just gets used as a coverage spell, where it competes with iron shot and OOD.

It's a crystal spear, it should at least have reaching

I dunno, it has Stlth-

also a draconian wielding wyrmbane is pretty great

The odd of Fi finding Minor Magic (or any starting-level book, really) before lair are pretty damn slim. And then you get to decide if you want to get those spells castable (maybe ditching your armour and shield?) rather than getting better at using the gear you started with. I guess it seems like g...

The change in move speed is not particularly relevant, either. You want to slow monsters' actions, because movement is the only thing that's slowed for you.

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I think option 1 of the OP's suggestion might work, actually. There might be some way to select some conjurations to be your "quiver list" (a screen like the autopickup screen) and then, with autofight_throw and autofight_throw_nomove, you could spam your "quivered" spell with ta...

4. Spoilery: no. What you mention is a level of knowledge that's easily gained by just playing the game and being slightly observant. It's similar to saying "spoiler fact: ogres with weapons are very dangerous". You'll figure it out. Well, it's a *little* spoilery, unless I'm mistaken. I ...

Mod note: added code tags

You're missing that monsters in transit are not actually guaranteed to appear in Abyss. Unless the monster is a unique, it and its inventory are probably going to be destroyed. Well, that's silly. Both of those things sounds like bugs to me. Of course, monsters could drop their inventory on banishm...

It looks to me as though yes, all banished monsters go to the abyss unless they were pacified, in which case they drop their gear and are just gone.

oh wow oh wow oh wow monster_die() is something else

So technically banishment is not item destruction.

VeryAngryFelid wrote:I was surprised when I saw "grinder" in a menu for the first time since I knew the word from crawl only.

A little known fact about Crawl's Grinder is that he is a sandwich. That's why he casts paralyze.

all imps are actually somewhere on the sandwich alignment chart

It's a lot less annoying (and stronger per AUT) with a polearm.

OK. I know distortion is supposed to be a powerful brand with some powerful downsides. I mean, on 1/20 of hits it basically instakills monsters. So it's pretty good. But when using it in melee (I just rolled up my first AK... maybe ever?)... it blinks monsters. All. The. Time. Very occasionally, thi...

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If your strategy is "kill all the dudes" then apportation will not be very useful to you. There aren't many cases where there's an item you see that will help you in your current fight, but you can't get to it because dudes. But! If you plan on leaving dudes alive (hint: this is often bett...

I'm assuming monster behavior with respect to water would be unchanged?

The amount of game where you haven't found a relevant enhancer or stat stick is not exactly small. It also coincides nicely with the part of the game where any additional damage is useful...

The other nice thing about branding a demon blade is you don't need to switch weapons before beating on a lich. (Well, okay, you probably have dispel undead but still.) I'm real bad at remembering to switch weapons, so 'tab will ultimately kill pretty much anything' is a good place for me to be in.

If you want a statue troll, I'd roll EE instead of Tm, it's not like Changes is super useful to Trolls outside of Ice Form. Having a reliable ranged attack helps with Chei's downsides, if you want to go the "take it easy" route.

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Mod note: switched spoiler tags to code tags. First: you have two runes with an XL20 drac, you're basically doing okay. But! You have enough (way more than enough, actually) M&F skill. Generally, you don't need to train a weapon past what's known as "minimum delay" — the fastest you ca...

The .cs file isn't really what you want; it's best to post a character dump (press "#" in-game) and put it in [code] tags. Where are you generally running into trouble? It's hard to tell you if you should be training conjurations (in general, not unless you started with conjurations); bows...

My main reason for agreeing with the OP: it makes the mechanic clearer. Heroism adds 5 to the relevant skills. End of story. I'd also argue that you should see the HP boost from Fighting as well.

It's also kind of cool to have a way to have your skills go past 27, if only temporarily.

FWIW I remember that after saccing an eye with Ru, melee still killed dudes pretty okay

of course I also had Ru so there's that

This is weird, you can't pray at altars at all? It sounds like your key bindings got messed up somehow, maybe 'p' is macroed to something?

Personally, i mostly chop up corpses, eat chunks from the floor, and leave the rest there. Huh. I never thought of doing that. That's a good idea. What if 'c' weren't a thing at all? What if you 'e' standing over a corpse, and you get some nutrition and turn the corpse into a skeleton? It's not lik...

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