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Hi everyone! In the end I got the first "pure caster" win. Ok - gnolls cannot be considered "pure" caster in the traditional way, but I think that wearing steam armor qualifies me for it. Weird run in which I found something like 5 crystal balls and 4 staves of Energy, but no rea...

Hi everyone! First online win, Troll Fighter of Nemelex. I am very happy of this win because Nemelex was the first god I was using when joining crawl, and I always liked Troll in general. Never got a win with those... until I tried them together. What I learned: ⋅ Nemelex is very strong i...

Hi everyone, just wanted to thank the devs for the Gauntlet. It's really a LOT of fun, and well thought and designed. What I like: - option to exit - PARTIAL view of what is expecting you - the fact that you can prepare for enemies that you already know in advance The name is not really intuitive to...

Latest version of Depths is harder than Elf, in my opinion.
If you are really careful and you have decent survivability in melee (for dancing weapons), you can manage it.
Just beware of banishment to Abyss... engage 1-2 enemies at once, and teleport away when things get hard.

I do suppose that the abilty to shield from fireballs and polymorph can make it the best spell, but if you care so much about that then surely summon spells would be far better. I made some tests with Wiz mode. Crystal Spear and Iron Shot miss a lot. I mean, a LOT. They are good... when they hit. T...

Another option was might, haste and that +9 eveningstar at min delay. The character was a hybrid actually. Sorry, in Crawl world I suppose that even a caster (maybe the word "pure" is misleading here) should train any good lowskill weapon to mindelay (morning/eveningstar, demon whip, demo...

Ok, almost. Almost. Died in Zot:5 :oops: :oops: :oops: Was fighting with an artifact +5 ring mail. The problem are those damn Orbs of Fire. Never had any problem in the past, ok, they were not "easy", but were manageable. As a fire elementalist, I had only Freezing Cloud. When I saw that I...

I just want to thank you all for all the advices. Conjure Flame is really really strong now that I learned to use it :) I just had a really good run with a GrFE that was casting in FDA, cleared Lair, Orc and Dungeon, grabbed the Spider rune, entered Shoals, but was banished to Abyss:2 by Louise. I'v...

Edit. Except training fire/conj was a bad idea unless you had a book with bolt of fire somewhere. But then you should have trained just spellcasting/fire/conj. Could you please explain it a bit better? Why training Fire/Cj is a bad idea, since any single spell I have is Fire/Conj? Edit: if you mean...

Copy paste some of your morgues here (in "code" tags). It makes the advice more concrete. Often the thing you're doing wrong is not what you might consider plausible, but is something else altogether. If you want to play "pure caster", and are having problems with MP, try DE. An...

Magipi wrote:OMG, I meant to write conjure flame. Sticky flame is straightforward and very powerful. But for conjure flame to be really good, you need to know tricks that are almost bugs. My bad.

If any of you could share these tricks, would be super-helpful

First of all, thank you CanOfWorms for the Fireaball "melee range" advice, it's really a nice trick that I didn't think of. My bad... and kudos to you. Secondly: how can you kill a yak pack with Conjure Flame? Intelligent monsters simply wait before entering the flame, so it's a nice "...

I don't get the Vehumet's gifts are bad part. Make sure you have Conjurations as your highest magic skill and then you don't depend on luck with spells. DrCj is very easy IMHO. I assume you don't mean pure caster as character who does not train Fighting/Dodging, that would be called glass cannon in...

Hi all, after winning with a ranged character, an unarmed melee and a 15 rune DsGl^Chei with Shatter (but shatter went online quite late), I am trying to do a "Pure Caster". My own (really simple) rules for this caster project are: ⋅ No Chei - Chei is great and I love it, but ma...

Just completed the first 15 runes victory, and that was simply amazing. Thank you to all developers for making such a great game. It feels really really epic when you go through Hells and Pandemonium.
Thanks!

Airwolf wrote:Yeah, that's why I recommended getting to the upstairs immediately.

Do you know why I was not able to see the stairs? Maybe I made some steps in the wrong direction?

VeryAngryFelid wrote:With statue form that would be 375 HP, 309 HP after one torment, 254 HP after two and 209 HP after 3 torments. Quite a difference.
Congrats with your win!

Thanks for you congrats... and you are really right. It makes really a lot of difference :shock:

YAVP here: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=24951&p=324624#p324624

Thanks for all the advices!!

Character dump (posted here and trimmed for size limit): Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1 (tiles) character file. 12459236 Aulin V the Grand Master (level 27, 266/266 HPs) Began as a Demonspawn Gladiator on Dec 23, 2017. Was the Champion of Cheibriados. Escaped with the Orb ... and 15 runes o...

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I did it!!!!!!!!! What an incredible trip have been!!!!! Spoiler warning: this post is a big, continuous, spoiler :) Down to the Hell and Pandemonium and back to light. Oh, when I saw the entrance of the Dungeon! I had 2 victories in the past (both 3 runes) and wanted to try extend...

YEEEEEEEEEE I DID IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

3rd victory in general, first 15 runeeeeeeeeee

I will make a "YAVP" soon

Why didn't you use statue form for torment protection? I used it, and it saved my life (I think), but anyway I was taking tons of damage... I think that in some way I pulled the entire Tomb:3 (maybe shatter was not a good idea here, but I was completely surrounded, I didn't see stairs, and anyway w...

By the way, almost died in Pan because after Cerebov, I had all the rings for rF+++, and no rN/rC/rElec. In the following Pan realm I was going around (without rN, but I didn't realize) and I almost died to a couple of fiends, but (stupid me) I thought: wow, maybe some torments in a row. Then I foun...

The Tomb is BRUTAL :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Tomb:3 is the most dangerous place, ever. Had some luck, and had to use Step from time maybe 4 times :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Shatter helps, but those death curses are a pain (thanks for warning!). Some form of fast regeneration and some stea...

Got demonic rune after few Pan levels.
And Cerebov down

, got fiery rune

Cleared Cocytus, Slime (TRJ was quite easy, at this point, I suppose), and then entered Abyss. Stayed 2000 turns in Abyss 1 and 2, and then read on wiki that the rune spawns only on Abyss:3. Doh. Then went Abyss:3, and since I wasn't finding anything, Abyss:4 and then Abyss:5. After one zillion XP a...

Edit: Oh, Augmentation! This game doesn't count! :) FIrst of all: thank you for the advices :D Augmentation is cool but much less important when you face strong enemies, since you'll drop some health anyway. What I consider superstrong (at limits of being OP...) is Powered by Death (2 and 3). At th...

Update: Asmodeus down! Managed to soften him with the Stormbow and then shred him to death with unarmed. Ended up with health lower than expected but Asmodeus exited from his vault, and caught me in the middle of another fight. There is a lot of noise here!
Anyway got Obsidian rune

Update: cleared Elf and found a nice +4 Helmet { rElec, rF } :) Cleared also Zot:1-4. Learned blade hands, putting rC+ ring by default (since now I have rF+ on helmet) and training Bows as you suggested, I am at 16-17 now. Now with "standard set" i have rPois, rElec, rF+, rC+, MR+++, rN+++...

bel wrote:If you don't plan to use a shield, learn blade hands.

At the moment I am already doing really a lot of damage. But anyway you are right, I already invested in Tm, so it's basically a free upgrade.

Hi all! So here I am, now. First time (apart from a couple of failures in the past) with Chei, and I love him. Got 3 runes, and cleared all the "pre-extended" branches except half of Elf:2 (in which I am now), Elf:3, and not yet entered in Zot. I left Elf for last because I hate that place...

My second win!! My first win was a ranged-only Spriggan slinger of Okawaru. I wanted to try something completely different, and I was fascinated by Unarmed Combat. I splattered a lot of Trolls and Ghouls. Also a Troll with a GDA, that died in Zot:1. I tried with Flails, Short blades, long blades, an...

Cheibrodos wrote:
d3k0 wrote:I am saying this because the Swamp should be the easiest of all rune vaults.

Why should this be the case?

Because the other ones are more difficult

Snake is the easier of the other ones, but if you do not have high AC it becomes quite difficult, because you are easily surrounded.

bel wrote:It's not too difficult. You might need to teleport once or twice. Plenty of characters can simply kill Lerny easily. A small army of ice beasts can take it down, for example.

My point is that is *not* Lerny itself, it's the vault in which Lerny is that is too difficult.

BEWARE new players: this post is full of SPOILERS First of all, let me say that I survived, thanks to makhleb and a bit of Luck with greater daemons, a great shield of protection and the power of Unarmed... and yes, also being a Ghoul helped a lot. The hydra itself is very difficult, but can be &qu...

VeryAngryFelid wrote: I hope you haven't put any bonus stats into Dex, it's a bad idea for Ce.

Where should i put points? Str?

Fingolfin wrote:Press '$'

Thanks!

I think that if you come 10XL later, you do not need anymore the stuff that you can find in it

And if you are a caster, maybe you have Blink, Swiftness, or other things that help you get out.

Hi all!
When you are in a shop you can "add item to shopping list" pressing the capital letter of the object you are insterested, for example A, C, and so on.
How do you see later this shopping list?
Thank you very much

Hi! Doing quite well with this EE. Magic skills are already high, waiting for a book or Veh to offer Shatter/IronShot/CrystalSpear. In a Lair:6 vault I found a +11 Triple Sword of plutonium (*contam, stealth-). At the moment my Maces skill is still low, I am using a +1 flail of protection that boost...

Obviously a +6EV (or +6AC) ring helps, anyway quite impressed you got to Vaults:1. Bringing Throwing to high levels is ok, the main topic here is "how to survive without luck" and if the answer is "throw anything you find on the ground to anything that moves at the edge of LOS" i...

most started using different dragon armour at XL 13-15: storm, fire, shadow, steam, even Troll leather armour. Basically wear what you found first. I am not able to survive in just troll leather. Maybe troll leather, with 4 enchant armour, and any ring of protection. Steam/shadow are fine (anyway i...

(late game is not problematic because you usually have some dragon armour by then). One of the key problems here is that *usually* is not *always*. Sometimes i drop more than 10 dragon armours. Sometimes not even one. It depends not only on how luck you have with the single drop, but (much more) on...

I do not understand. Trolls are good with decent armour. But I find nearly impossible to go with a melee troll if you do not find a good dragon scale armour. The few times I managed to start collecting runes were: 1) found +6 protection on D:2 and in the game of mutations, got +2AC and +1AC (and eve...

Sprucery wrote:Ozo's is great and so is Kiku but it's better to animate the corpses than cast CE imo.

Would you start as TrIE? Just unarmed until 11, then Ozo and shield?

I learned (the hard way...) how to deal with hydras, and now I would say they are not a big problem. My three "proven methods" are: - ranged (anything work, a well enchanted sling or big rocks, provided you have at least 8 in the relevant skill) - if you have shield, any untrained long bla...

d3k0, Those are my impressions too (and we have had a hot discussion about it some time ago) but training Statue Form makes you even more vulnerable during this "hard" time and with Tr aptitudes and Int it will be a long time before you get the spell inline so I believe it is a bad idea (...

If it took you 112002 turns to finish Lair, Orc, and D:15 then you lost about 350 piety to decay. Most Okawaru games win before turn 100,000. No wonder you didn't get many gifts. I am still not good at lowering turns count in general. And being a troll I find that I have to squeeze any Xp to get an...

And why you were training statue form? I found that Unarmed Troll (maybe it's me that I am still not good enough) are too unreliable with just a robe/troll armour past Orc/Lair. Also in last Lair level you have to be very careful if you are in a robe. So, there are just a few methods of getting som...

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