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Im using manifold assault, but this is the first time I've played this kind of character. I'm using inner flame on enemies, then manifold assault and other damage spells to create clouds of chaos. Which weapon do you think is the best, and should I train the weapon skill even though I'm not really u...

So I've been away a long time, I used to play a lot of DEFE characters. Got a couple of 15 rune runs on those. I also like an OpTm / OpFi with transmutations, finished a 15 rune run a couple of years back with one of those. I came home tonight and started playing my current Op game and had a close c...

Yeah scrolls etc can work I guess. I just find them more of a nuisance than anything else. And I have died to them a handful of times with no real way of dealing with them even after clearing most of lair, just because no SInv (which seems to be quite rare now) Just encountered one on my current gam...

I guess my point is, if you can see them they are meaningless. If you can't, there isn't a whole lot you can do except try to avoid them. This makes them essentially near impossible or trivial as a result of RNG if you got Sinv; which isn't really fun or something you can play your way out of

Back once again after a long break...Typical rage post, but whats fun about unseen horrors? I understand invis enemies can add some flavour and interesting difficulty - but unseen horrors have never really been anything but popcorn, or a complete nuisance to me if I don't have Sinv. I just died to o...

I did it... After god knows how long (Over a year easily) over a day of play time, I think 3 gods, and two ziggurats I finally completed this 15 rune octopode game. My first ever Op win, and i think my 3rd ever 15 rune win (the other two being DEFE Veh, and I think a GrFi Oka/Zin) I thought about tr...

you have 27 scrolls of blinking. You could probably just blink blink blink onto the orb, then teleport out. (Perhaps even blink your way out...) Or is blink still uncontrolled in 0.24? swiftness, death's door and haste would probably help. Yep, im pretty sure its uncontrolled :( I think I'll have a...

Typical... I clear Zot down to level 4. Take probably 8 steps on Zot:5 and hit a teleport trap... This character is very strong, but no way strong enough to bully through the whole of Zot:5. I'm thinking to cast swiftness and run for it. Quaff haste if i need to when swiftness runs low. Read summoni...

So, not a lot has changed with this character, except a lot of time and zero practice. My experience on Zig:16 scared me enough to make me think "Maybe I'll just take my...I think third? ever 15 rune game. And do it with a challenge species like Op" I feel like converting the Makhleb and e...

So I did a whole bunch of stuff ages ago to prepare myself for endless zigging on this character. Converted to Makhleb for the heals and adjusted my load out. I remember it playing very differently to TSO and I felt out of my depth. I got to level 16 of a zig and got into a spot of bother - I was in...

Is this a map of D:4 or D:5? Not sure why you're trying to reach that area through the downstairs on the floor above. The inaccessible stairs shown on the map are downstairs, which means that you need to look at the map of the level just below this level (D:6?). There should be an upstairs which co...

So, the 3 downstairs on D:4 lead to one of two separate areas in D:5, where there is only one downstairs, and one hatch. There are no hatches on d:4. The other two downstairs on D:5 are in a totally separate area, but there is seemingly no way to access that area without digging.... none of the stai...

Guys, is this right? This level has two separate parts. I've found all three upstairs; but there is only 1 down stair to the next level...And a hatch. What gives? There is an unexplored hatch in the level above, which I assume would take me to some other area on this level where the other two down s...

Hey guys, I'm playing a game with Hep at the moment and when I tell me ancestor to attack something, it gives me the "okay then" message, which I"m sure is more of a "Cancellation" message than an "I've accepted your command" message: I press t a enter (Which shoul...

But I love sticks to snacks!

I love sticks to snakes too!

Done. It worked. Thanks! Never really used fan of gales before. It worked nicely

So fan of gales effects fog? I didn’t know this; reason I can’t blink out of fog is because of LOS. If fan blows fog too then that’s awesome

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What do you think is the best course of action Guys? Those damn Daeva's TSO keeps summoning for penance are strong as hell. He wasn't happy when I abandoned him for Makhleb! He keeps summoning like 6 at a time as well, with angels! How can I tell how much longer penance will last? Anyways, I don't h...

Is it possible?

You get two after the first zig and tomb:3

So the zig is done. Nothing left to do now in this game, but this guy is so insanely strong and well balanced I kinda don't want to let him go. I almost find the ascension boring. What else could I do? Could I just repeat zigs with this guy? Any tips? What do you guys think? 61 Strength! So much pow...

I one-shotted him with Absolute Zero during the tourney. 102889 | Slime:5 | Noticed the Royal Jelly 102891 | Slime:5 | Killed the Royal Jelly (Don't know why it took 2 turns. Maybe I took an extra step or something.) That left my squishy caster with a bunch of jellies to deal with. I hadn't conside...

And I'm out! Pretty uneventful, except for Zot:5 having about 20 alarm traps in one lung, and the other inaccessible due to a dispersal trap. Lots of luring and cancellation potions later... The last 3 times I've been to zot, one lung has been blcoked by dispersal. Is this intentional / desired? kin...

There are only potions of mutation now; Beneficial mutation does not exist. Each !mut has a chance to remove bad mutations, and give more mutations (Good and bad) Check it out on the wiki. You really want to avoid getting mutated now unless you have 3-4 potions of mutation to roll the dice with - an...

SO I put this game for a long time, then picked it up again. I largely thought "Screw defenses" and went to get firestorm castable ASAP. Pretty sure I was using it in Vaults, which is earlier than I have ever used it before. Its pretty overkill but works ok. I bolt of fire most stuff. LCS ...

Sounds complicated.

Your suggestions re: Pan Lords sound hellish, but I like them. The trample and blink stairs thing particularly I think could really spice up ascension.

I'm not too sure on the orb guardian ideas though I'm afraid!

Yeah, I guess there are options. The point I was making is that I had nothing but vanilla robes up to XL18 which sucked!

I generally stick to robes, this is a deep elf blaster caster!

I'd normally expect to find a robe of archmagi in Orc, or at least some kind of artefact robe... but here, nothing!

Don't you just love it when something like this happens...

I'm 2 runes in now. XL19. The Robe of resistance was shop bought. Positive energy just dropped in vaults.

So, I've been playing quite a lot recently and figured along with my usual playstyle (Combo's I've never played that are a bit nuanced, and completing everything... E.g DEFE Veh, OpFi Oka->TSO with 15 runes at 27 levels of a zig completed) I figured I'd also try and start up a series of "Easy&q...

Thanks for the tip sorcerous, I didn't think that would be the case! so Ive had mutation problems with ths character for a while now. I found 2 mutation potions throughout the entire game until i got to this Ziggurat (all 15 runes and a lot of abyss scumming looking for mut pots) I found quite a few...

So I thought "Screw it, I'm going for it" The only thing that gives me ANY trouble at all is tormentors and damnation. Any tips for dealing with that? Just summon a load of meat shields and then take them out from a distance? I have Ignition up now. Its useful for crowd clearing but obviou...

Guys, What is "Accursed Screaming" and why does it paralyze you? I was recently paralyzed by it a few times even with MR++++++ Here's an extract from another thread... I kept somehow getting paralyzed on one level even though I have MR++++++. I couldn't figure out how... Actually I found i...

Tongue in cheek but half serious reply... just make everything in the game take ten times as long.

So I got out of it. Blink back to put as many tormentors / Damnation things out of LOS as I could. Summoned a friendly angel and dropped a lightning spire. Javelined everything that was capable that was left. Lesser beckoninged the pan lord then killed him with a single attack (lol) It took me a whi...

I personally hate Hydras, playing mostly unarmed and blaster caster characters. The head chopping mechanic does nothing for me, although I do actually quite like it thematically, I wouldn't moan if Hydras were simply no longer in the game. Lerny is an interesting boss (and hilarious if you have a ph...

What do you think of this then guys? It's not looking good, but most of my HP was eaten by four or so hellions that I focused early on in the fight. I'm about to go out of the house for the night, so kind of just stopped as soon as the situation started to get a bit testy... Will have a proper think...

I currently have 57 strength and have found a +8 strength ring. I'm a melee statuepode. Is it worth having the extra 8 or am I on the way to diminishing returns? https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/Delarado/Delarado.txt Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.24.0-125-gc4c63601f3 (webtiles) character file...

AAAAaaaand she's done. I had a little party at the end there. http://photos.seti.london/Party.png Full morgue: https://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/delarado/morgue-delarado-20200228-123749.txt Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.22.2-1-ge965b3aba3 (webtiles) character file. 9330548 delarado the Arch...

UC is great. I’ve been playing a lot of octopuses recently. 27 fighting 27 UC 27 dodging (I’m well into extended) and a large shield and stuff barely ever hits me. Yet most enemies die in a single or two hits - even pan lords (I do have 55 strength though and use Statue form) I don’t think there’s a...

You should examine your equipment. You have 6 strength, which is very low. Not only that, you have some things giving you negative strength that only give you positive intrinsic you already have elsewhere, or one that is not useful to you. E.g you have 3 different items that give you relec, and one ...

How do you use tornado? I once learnt it on a DEFE and didn't find it useful. In fact, it pretty much got me killed. Nothing seemed to take much damage, and I still took a load of damage while it ran its course. I couldn't see any situations where it would be better than the instant damage of firest...

Post a character dump and people will tell you how best to avoid gaining more mutations with the tools you have. The only times you can’t really avoid mutations is with several mutators on screen at once in open areas, and when you encounter orbs of fire. Even then there are sites to mitigate.

I'm playing trunk, and I've been doing a few short trips to the Abyss. I ended up being heavily mutated... with permanent mutations. Perhaps I completely failed to register some mutagenic encounters, but I think I only faced wretched stars, which are supposed to mutate me only temporarily, right? W...

Thanks Magipi, yeah I noticed that too. I actually used potions of healing to clear it - I didn't realise they could do it too! But after quaffing two of them I'm back to full HP.

So I picked this game up again after running through tomb with my OpFi so I knew what to expect. Just completed tomb with this guy. Much trickier with a flimsy caster! one time I was at about 30% health as soon as I descended the stairs, even with RN+++! It took me a good 7 or 8 cycles of blinking t...

So thats tomb done. Relatively uneventful, I used statue form throughout. Took me 3 laps to clear the bottom floor. The only dicey bit was where I picked the upstair to retreat via that had a tele trap in LOS, which lead to all sorts of mayhem blinking to the stairs and getting blinked straight off ...

tealizard wrote:You were mutated by contamination, probably from casting cblink and using haste potions.

Yeah I’m pretty sure I did use Cblink while I was hasted ... damn! And no more !mut in the game; with zot and OOFs to go yet...

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Hey Guys, Just clearing out tomb and have gained a couple of mutations. What gives you mutations down there? I've noticed random contamination at points, and wasn't sure why. I didn't believe at the time it was because of spell miscasts (I didn't notice anything not working) As far as I can see, not...

What do you mean a *tele ring? I thought these randomly teleported you next to monsters? I've not used them before. Or is it possible to evoke them to evoke a teleport and clear out all of the closed areas? Cleansing flame I thought about, but the noise worries me and also killing too many mummies a...

So, just tomb to go now. 14/15 runes got... All the pan and hell bosses were frankly laughable in terms of difficulty, the most frightening one being gloorx vloq with all the executioners. The rest I pretty much tabbed my way through with no luring or tactics whatsoever! Whats the strategy in tomb w...

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