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Probably, but I erred on the side of caution. Felt as though it would of been a lot of "sit, regen, ancient lich appears, rinse, repeat" that would have stretched my game into dumb mistake territory.

Had some narrow escapes in extended, burned out most of my healing and escape options (didn't get any more until Zot:5), causing me to abandon my 15 rune attempt midway through Gehenna. Still, fairly solid win. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-1745-gffa9a88 (webtiles) character file. 5622502...

Yeah. Oka is 7 Inv tops. Sif I usually get by with 4-6 Inv especially if I find a crystal ball and/or staff of energy.

Yeah, after all these years of playing, I still cringe at the thought of running into an early unseen horror

There are three ways where you can be cast into Abyss unwillingly: 1. A creature casts banishment on you. This can be avoided if you have high enough MR. 2. A creature hits you with a Distortion weapon. Don't get hit by them. Make them a high priority target. 3. You unwield a Distortion weapon (chan...

Read ID those scrolls. You're at D:11 and have only one scroll known.

Pretty sure that large shield is affecting your DPS at zero skill. It also appears to be the only thing keeping you alive as you don't have any defenses trained minus fighting. Should start training the others ASAP.

Eh, all the versions seem to run together with me anymore.

Killing allies has incurred wrath for a long time, at least as long as I have been playing (around 0.7). It's why Oka is not suggested for any build using summons.

Now boosting the wrath effect was relatively recent, within the past year.

Drac summons blocked me from running. Popped Tele a turn too late.

And... did not realize Brilliance upped spell accuracy. Only the second time I've been able to get a caster this far along. Most of the game involved that wiz ring, so didn't need Brilliance pots that often.

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16-a0-3468-g3fc247e (webtiles) character file. 723777 ElderVIII the Metallomancer (level 27, -6/193 (206) HPs) Began as a Demigod Earth Elementalist on Dec 31, 2014. Mangled by a golden dragon (31 damage) ... on level 5 of the Realm of Zot on Jan 2, 2015. The game...

I have cleared zig with an exec axe wielding MiMo of TSO (my only 15 run to date). Needed other things like Haste wands for stuff like Pan lords to kill them before they dropped too much stuff on me.

I was sleepy when I replied, so word choice was poor.

Well, kind of a moot point as I found a dirt cheap Necronomicon in Orc. Thinking I'll take your advice and wait for a spear (or may a dtrident). Thanks anyway.

Honestly, haven't invested too much in any weapon skill yet. Found the spear, trained that to 4 before stumbling into the cutlass and training that a bit, so the XP differential negligible ATM.

So, after a near-miss with my CeDK (snagged Orb, killed in escape), I'm past Lair with my DDNe of Kiku. Haven't quite enough for Kiku gift (found altar fairly late), but a minor weapon question has presented itself. Currently wielding: A - the +7 spear of Impatience (vamp, rF+ rC+) Overall great ear...

I wonder... Gong + Qazlal....

This must be done.

The only thing I can think of that may cause issues is interaction with Spirit Shield, and that's mostly a minor thing dealing with very rare scenarios e.g HP and MP about equal leading to a 1:1 split, creating a nearly double health pool. Outside that, I don't see the problem with casting 9 Firesto...

It is doable, but you have to be more cautious about attracting too many acid blobs. I've lost several characters in Slime with new Corrosion wearing GDA and CPA. -41 AC tends to do that (also Qazlal like to attract the entire level to you).

From my experience, the only time I would ever consider GDA is if I was running a melee character and I found one by Lair, and even after that I wouldn't wear it until I was getting into extended and have 5 more enchant scrolls than the enchantment on whatever plate I was wearing at the time.The inv...

Well, for starters I'd be using be using the vampiric battleaxe. It's at mindelay, and you're likely to make back whatever damage you'd receive with a couple swings. Personally, I like getting my Fighting to at least 15 before training Dodging on heavy armour characters, considering you're going to ...

Not particularly. Purple-texted items are meant to indicate items that can help but also have a risk of causing more harm than good, hence why they are kept off auto pickup by default. Vulnerability before the changes was always a net benefit, since it could pull you out of potentially fatal status ...

When a caster, always focus Spellcasting so as to never have spell hunger issues.
Ash forces you to wear cursed crap, and you should never worship her.

From my VSWn win: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-848-g2df4b55 (webtiles) character file. 3683652 ElderVIII the Warrior (level 27, 158/158 HPs) Began as a Vine Stalker Wanderer on May 14, 2014. Was the Champion of Cheibriados. Escaped with the Orb ... and 5 runes on May 16, 2014! The game l...

The mantra to live (and die) by: That is a very good item, and it is likely going to get you killed.

Some of my most aggravating deaths have occurred while I was in possession of some of the best gear out there: Undeadhunter, a d:4 acquired Plutonium Sword, Skullcrusher, etc.

#5 in OP should read "GDA is often a bad choice." Plate mail can get fairly high level spells, and CPA can net you most of the support spells. Additionally: 1. In most cases, rF++, rC+, and MR+++ will be sufficient enough resistances for the game. 2. Always draw single targets towards you;...

Vs. hydras, why would you wield a weapon you have to unwield (contam effect) when you could just use a wand or summon a brother? These options are safer and don't mutate you. It's so you learn never to wield a weapon with Contam unless you don't ever plan on switching, especially since you could us...

A - the +9 great sword of Kakies {flame, Contam Int+2 SInv} Whelp, I'm switching over from Axes. I'm a Troglodite now, so I'm curious to see whether he'll be able to top that. Reasons to switch from Axes to Swords 1. You hit Lair with only a hand axe 2. You find the Plutonium Sword and don't have a...

My strategy goes as follows: 1) Win a game 2) lose the next 10 straight because early RNG hate such as opening the first door I see and getting smacked by a gnoll. 3) get a character rolling then lose in Vaults to a crystal spear in the face. Ok, not really a strategy. More like "sucking withou...

Igni in experimental offered to build me a randart with +16 once, but that required having a +9 weapon in the first place.

1. Don't learn Necromutation. That's exclusively for mages who wish to spam level 9 spells in Hell. 2. It's obvious why you haven't spammed Haste much: Between boots of running and Finesse you're already damn quick. Still, you'd most likely be using it in situations where things need to die even fas...

Either way, updating the GDR section of the wiki to remove any implication that one should choose armor based on it would be a good thing. Having some examples as to why you shouldn't do that would be even better. Here's what I get from the wiki: GDR adjusts the minimum AC roll from 0 to GDR %. Thi...

What is an Igni? Also, you're not the first I've seen with Summon Butterflies. What's the deal with Summon Butterflies? You use this? Igni is the new god currently in experimental. From what I've seen, his benefits far outweigh any later wrath you may incur (honestly, his wrath makes Oka's look lik...

CPA just isn't an option for this character. The EV hit wouldn't be offset by by the AC bonus, and even finding something like the orange CPA would be a questionable choice.

I'm with the others: stick with the scale until you can find some enchant armours for the PDA.

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-1176-g886b033 (webtiles) character file. 14164413 ElderVIII the Invulnerable (level 27, 261/261 (281) HPs) Began as a Minotaur Monk on June 8, 2014. Was the Champion of the Shining One. Escaped with the Orb ... and 15 runes on June 10, 2014! The game lasted ...

Welp, that ended sadly. Got 5 Daevaed in Abyss: 3.

Methinks I'll try again, but with a different species.

So... halflings. Yeah, I've never found a reason where if I wanted to play a small dodgy fighter to pick Ha over Ko. Sounds like the developers took my crazy plan from WoW of building a halfling tank. But, yeah, how to make halflings more unique... 1. Receive half stealth penalties when wearing non-...

So after a series of trying to be less sucky with casters (deepest run to date: Shoals), I decided to go with my old minotaur standby and test out Igni for the first time. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-1176-g886b033 (webtiles) character file. ElderVIII the Minotaur Blade (Minotaur Monk) T...

I still lol at the Chei hate (got me my second win). My guess is the people who think he's unplayable haven't actually won with him.

This coming from a not great player

Running into a similar situation with my MiMo of Igni > TSO, except with the added bugaboo of a Zin switch leaving me without my Plutonium Sword. I do have a backup randart +11 Claymore (slice MP+5 Regen) [thanks for being such a broken god Igni, what with your laughable wrath] stashed away, so I'm ...

Kind of fond of the new mechanics as they are coming out. Had to learn the hard way on the Corrosion though; lost my last GrBe to the Slime Pits at Corr (-39).

If you're going to use any of those axes, push to at least 14 skill for a 1 aut swing. Get your Invocations to 7.5 for <10% Finesse. Turn off Bows, as now the XP investment is better used towards other things such as defenses. Of the three you've found, I'd stick with the elec brand one. You're past...

The thought is longer term in nature. I'm thinking the defenses Kiku would later provide over the spells. Plus, really haven't been using the shadow jump thing as much as I expected since most everything dies to my effectively one-handed claymore and minions combined. Bleed smoke has yet to proc, th...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-897-g19692ce (webtiles) character file. ElderVIII the Carver (Demonspawn Gladiator) Turns: 23282, Time: 02:43:11 HP 99/99 AC 27 Str 17 XL: 14 Next: 20% MP 23/26 EV 11 Int 11 God: Dithmenos [******] Gold 1617 SH 0 Dex 16 Spells: 8 memorised, 1 level left rFir...

I honestly think mottled is worse than yellow. The whopping ten times I get Stickied in any given game is usually irrelevant come rF+ and becomes laughable with preservation. At least rAcid has relevance in Slime. Anyways, there's not really "bad" color for a DrTm. Really the only time I c...

The bonus armor at this point is not nearly as important as getting better resistances. Given you're over 40 EV, not much is going to hit you. The int bonus is maybe going to increase your fail rate by 1% and a very slight increase in hunger costs. MP +9 doesn't matter since with it you're at MP cap...

Vorpal is the brand of "Can't find anything better" Protection is bad outside early game and low AC (read: non-melee) characters. Flaming is better, but it's also the most common resistance type. Best bet is one of the following 3: Freezing is good against many cold-blooded creatures i.e. ...

So after having far too many early splats, I decided to roll a Wn and Chei, just to see what would happen. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-848-g2df4b55 (webtiles) character file. 3683652 ElderVIII the Warrior (level 27, 158/158 HPs) Began as a Vine Stalker Wanderer on May 14, 2014. Was the ...

....find the up stair case?

If you fall next to a nasty, tele then find the up staircase. If you don't find one immediately, keep searching until you do?

There's...not really a strategy to going up stairs.

Also as an aside, Banishment caps in power at 10.5 Invocations.

The only god switch that I found was acceptable was Oka > TSO, and that was only for the few times I attempted extended.

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