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Yeah, Griffon would give Transmuters and alternate to Fly that would open some interesting opportunities.

I like the idea of a god who twists you into something that can't wear armor, its a mechanic distinct enough to make him different from Trog and Oka (who instead values armor). But how would Carn work for races such as Draconians that don't get much in the way of armor anyway? Oh, and if the "g...

Ogres pretty much flat out suck at everything. The high hunger makes them iffy spellcasters and the inability to get good armor OR dodge makes them crappy fighters. Thes best compromise I can think of would be giving the current ogre build gourmand, which would still leave them as a "challenge&...

Deep Dwarf Fighter=instadeath

Warlords seem pretty rare...most of the time they don't even show up in Orc Mines. Has this changed in trunk? (I'm currently playing 0.7)

I like this idea, but I also like the idea I had of "Ben", a unique rat who's a very powerful spellcaster. Physically, he's a weak rat, but he gets terrifyingly powerful spells like Iron Shot or Poison Arrow. The idea was to exploit the idea of the rare rats that show up in late game that ...

Beogh does appear in non-orc character runs. You just can't worship him.

I like the acid dragon idea, but iron draconian (if its anything like most of the "iron" monsters) would be insanely overpowered compared to other draconians.

I actually think its pretty hard to drown in Crawl, at least compared to CastlevaniaRL where 95% of my player deaths were as a result of being knocked into water or dorwning. A big part of the reason I abandoned CastlevaniaRL for Crawl, actually, was that Stone Soup typically goes out of its way to ...

Theres plenty of ways to improve this without eliminating the hive. My personal favorite idea is to provide alternative branches to hive much like the alternatives that exist between swamp/snake/shoals. Yeah it should be Hive/Spider/Ants&Beetles I like this idea--since we have a "corrupted...

I know, but jellyfish have a "protoplasmic" feel since they're such a simple life form. I can see keeping them on the beach, but they should be in Slime in some capacity too IMO.

Jellyfish don't even move their "tentacles" to attack in real life, they just let them drift and hope prey collides with the stingers. A sentient jellyfish that can move in shallow water is enough of a stretch without somehow believing its as intelligent as an octopus... although I think t...

If people feel unhappy about some of these spells, how about raising their level so they're less likely to be "core" spells?

What's really strange is that you can get an "axe of holy wrath" but NOT a demon axe, which has been a stereotypical demon weapon since before RPGs existed. If its always a no-brainer for Ds to go into some other weapon school to get their racial weapon, the game is actually more predictab...

So basically Ds are very likely to become Makhleb-oriented melee users, since many of the mutations are related to melee combat?

Maybe if dwarves get their own branch, the dwarven equipment there will help them like how Hive helps Spriggans? It would certainly make MdFi less of a "no-brainer" run class. As for the demon axe, demon axes have been used so much as a stereotypical weapon that its more of a shock that th...

I kinda like the relative simplicity of Crawl hand to hand and don't think its interface would benefit from these types of commands very much. WoW has real-time battles and can implement them better. What I would like is passive abilities that work as a potential buff. For example, give Minotaur a s...

How about this as a compromise; have a slow heal when uprooted and a fast heal when rooted? That way you wouldn't be able to go back to heal in seconds, but you'd heal at roughly ghoul rate even while you are moving.

Or maybe the Dungeon is a metaphysical place that warps time and space and the stairs to branches are entries into "pocket universes". That's the best way I can rationalize a jungle existing in a dungeon (the current version of Lair has a very "jungle" feel).

Sure, if it actually makes kenku feel less like a random birdman and more like a part of the Crawl universe. If DDs and merfolk (the main humanoid inhabitant of the Greek-style Shoals) get a branch, kenku should get one. But kenku's is begging for a SE Asian feel somehow... I'd like something with a...

It may sound counter-intuitive for Vehumet, but consider trying to get Spider Form on the character. My current DeVm got saved from a very nasty situation based solely on Spider's speed and evade.

Undead struggle as either Crusaders or Transmuter since you can't berserk or transform when you're dead. VpTm of Kiku MIGHT be a workable build, but you'd have to go more for the necro skills than the transmuter ones ultimately.

The good dragon armors are hard to get. Dragons themselves are rather rare, and its often necessary to use a scroll of enchant armor to create the armor. Its not something that can be relied upon.

Try playing as Transmuter (either SE or Merfolk, Felid might work well too). They have a wide variety of skills useful in the difficult early game. Potion spam for confusion, Sticks to Snakes for things that resist confusion, Spider Form for easy running away and evasion.

I thought Jiyva was supposed to be a late-game god for people who wanted beneficial mutations?

The problem with an aviary branch is that the flying monsters don't really have enough variety or a coherent theme. Certainly not as much as the jellies and snakes do. As it stand, the infamous "Air" vault is probably the best they can do unless they start introducing a huge variety of fli...

Can we have a full list of the "non-Temple" gods in current trunk? I've never seen Jiyva show up early on, so I'm suspecting its still him, Beogh, Lugonu. Of course there are still the overflow altars... BTW, I've never seen Jiyva show up in Temple, either in it or as an overflow. Jiyva se...

Which also happens to make Mahkleb better than any other god for races with health regain problems (Vampires, DD). For a god of "pure chaos and violence", Mahkleb is awfully versatile. Certainly much more than, say Kiku (I want ALL the necro stuff) or Vehu (I need the best conjurations mag...

DDs need the restore abilities potion to get their stats back.

Hive's location makes it great for a stash, and its hellish you're trying to do it with a low AC character with no poison res. I remember when I lost a TrBe down there...ugh. The killer bees are the first "horde" enemy that it feels like a great accomplishment to vanquish on the way to bui...

It works best for SE/HE casters. DEs are too squishy to train vs. most powerful enemies. Spriggans can train but only after they get loads of EV to increase the enemies chance of missing--doing it early on with a spriggan will just get you pulped.

Armored spellcasting is a good niche, but they need some sort of natural AC. It would be cool to have them a bulky but limited caster (ie being good at a few schools, but sucking at others). To go with the whole Fedhas feel, they could be bad at Necromancy, for example. We already have DD for bulky ...

Part of the reason so many people start playing troll berserkers is that they are one of the few combinations that has a 95% chance of beating the "shallow" part of the game that people have to repeat so often anyway due to permadeath. Even if TrBe has its flaws, the player at least feels ...

Playing spriggan if the Hive is elimiated would go from a viable, if difficult hunger formula to a NetHack "constant random danger of starvation" forumla of difficulty. And I play this game because of its differences from NetHack, not its similarities...

Encountered Nessos on my DeVm run, but managed to survive him thanks to Mephitic. He hits hard but isn't the instadeath machine that Erolcha can be, at least with the types of characters I use. Erolcha is a nightmare even if she doesn't have banishment for almost any build. I've gotten better vs. Me...

I'd be behind this race if it had a proper "Ent/tree" flavor. They should be very, VERY powerful but also level and gain skills at a terribly slow rate, which would force players to rely heavily on the innate "ingrain health regen" until about midgame, when they'd have to make a ...

I think it would be cool if Mahkleb granted you some sort of "demon" related resist (one level of rFire or rLife would be nice) instead of Greater Destruction. Having it kick in at a certain piety level would actually force players to consider conserving their piety and not mindlessly spam...

VB is good for many things but is lousy in Snake. Poison Arrow is still insanely powerful in Snake and even one-shotted mambas and vipers for me! The main reason I was still using IMB and VB over it was the hunger cost. Poison Arrow was the only thing I found that took a dent out of really strong mo...

Is KoBe finally listed as a "recommended" class in 0.8? It should be, since it seems to have lots of fans...

Are there any non-Trog minotaur gods that are viable for a 3-rune game? Most require you to train Evocations, and minotaurs really aren't great at that, but I was wondering if Yred or Mahkleb would be useful, or should MI just stick with Trog? Assuming he doesn't require much Evoc, Ash could be usef...

If you are a caster, you pretty much have to train Spellpower as high as possible for the sake of reducing hunger cost. The other casting skills you need train as high as necessary as possible for the casting rate to become "excellent". But Hunger is a huge threat, since it can prevent cas...

Yeah, I'm doing this character type again, but with Vehumet next time. The +1 spell range would be really useful, and this game would've been lousy without access to Power (which Vehumet gifts earlier than Sif). Hunger wasn't THAT big a deal (at least after Hive...) but he kept running out of MP, an...

You can always try Sif if you want to go for Ice/Enchantments to supplement the Transmutations.

Well, I managed to take Snake without much incident, but unfortunately I died on Shoals due to some super-powerful merfolk unique armed with a trident of draining. In the future, I'll to Vault 1-7 first. :oops:

I thought death by stat drain was eliminated (or at least people talked about changing it...)

I've seen some shops with rFire rings (mainly in Orc) but I haven't seen any rElec I can actually wear yet. My character has about 27 EV already, should I focus on hardcore EV (since Poison Arrow seems able to kill most things) since the Bravely Bold Sir Robin strategy seems to be in order for Zot? ...

In a game with lots of things that can easily kill you, Distortion is far too dangerous to fool around with...especially if the RNG decides not to fool around with Abyss and simply kills you via "space horribly distorts around you!" I recommend other weapons, because switching can often be...

Then your character doesn't need to haul around Olgreb, since the "poison on hit" ability of Olgreb won't hurt most enemies in Snake (since they have RPois).

Spriggan berserker. Watch they fey folk go SPLAT when Ogre enemies first show up.

Centaur: Crappy casting and HIGH hunger makes them too iffy to use. If they had gourmand they might be more usable, but as is the hunger mechanic dooms them. Mummies. They apparently FINALLY got buffed in 0.8 trunk, but 0.7 (what I'm playing now) they are absolute crud at everything. Ogres. Desperat...

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