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so that someone who's never cleared one before (like me until a few days ago) can get a rough idea of the right strategy. Don't you think that's awfully little zig experience to be writing a guide for them? Don't get me wrong - I'm not "Hey, I completed my first Zig, so I'm now Der Zigmeister,...

Accio = Apportation
Confundo = Confuse
Duro = Statue Form

People - I've had a go at putting down the basic steps needed to clear a zig, without going into too much detail, so that someone who's never cleared one before (like me until a few days ago) can get a rough idea of the right strategy. I'm not dealing with megazigs, just your average vanilla zig. Co...

Actually, while I'm here, I may as well thank all the devs for this superb game. Can't believe it's free. "Crawl is a lake from which a gnat may drink, and in which an elephant may bathe" (said about chess, but applies just as well to crawl)

Whoever came up with Barachians - thank you. They are awesome. Great to have a controlled blink (almost) that you can use when silenced / drained / sapped / teleport-restricted.

The all-round good aptitudes are cool as well.

Just been reading the Harry Potter novels for the first time (they passed me by when I was younger, and I wanted to vet them before my kids read them) I think we've got a few of the Harry Potter spells in the game, haven't we? Edit: made two lists - one for spells in the game, one for spells that ar...

Right - got the autumn katana at the bottom of the first zig, along with a very nice +6 int large shield, so don't need OCPA for clarity in lichform. Tried a second zig - absolutely smashed my way as far as level 18, but got a mummy floor, and poor tactics meant I had to bail. Now to try the hells i...

bel wrote:You can handle ghost moths by turning invisible.

I know - but I didn't have any means of doing so at the time. I said to myself "right, let's down a potion of... ... oh dammit!"

How far along are you? There's plenty of XP in Pan & Hells to get a few skills up to 27. Zot:5 has a ton of XP too, if you're one of those people who skip it until last. But if lighter armour helps you survive *now*, wear it. I think the biggest reason, besides coolness, to wear OCPA is for cla...

This is clearly not good enough. I think Crawl's time simulation needs to account for at least special, if not general, relativity. I think Chei would either completely agree or completely disagree, I'm not sure which. Definitely special relativity - time dilation only works to slow, I think. Gener...

Thanks, people I've now got 35 str 53 int (with right equipment) and 35 dex. I fired up wiz mode, and you can get level 9 spells online with these atts in OCPA without wizardry, but you need 27 spellcasting, 27 in the spell schools, and 27 armour lol. With wizardry, this comes down to 25 in these sk...

If there's one thing I'd change about crawl it's the inventory management system. It's so annoying when you keep getting messages about "your pack is full", "you can't carry that many items" and having to keep making marginal decisions about which is the least useful item , espec...

Several firsts for me: 1st time out with a Barachian, and my first win with one (one and won) 1st time winning with Chei. 1st 15-rune win with a non-undead character (if you don't count the hells when I was in Lichform) 1st time clearing a full Ziggurat. Almost cleared a second, but ran into mummy p...

Stealth is invaluable on a level where you can't get back to the upstairs, because of enemy density (e.g. vaults 5), or because of the floor layout (e.g. depths layouts where you have the whole level between the upstairs and the downstairs) or because there isn't an upstairs (like in the extended ga...

Code:: As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust. A - the ring of Cheibriados's Esteem {rPois rC+ rN+ Str+4 Dex+3}

Code:: J - the ring of the Prince {Wiz rElec rN+ MR+}

On an early game TeAE with artifcact ring mail. Perfect!

PleasingFungus wrote:getting 502 bad gateway

Me too. Reported it in technical support.

Hi

I seem to get a "bad gateway" error when I try to connect to project357.org - is it down? If so, when will it be up?

Cheers

Zargon

WalkerBoh wrote:The next (better) MuMo challenge is to start as a MuCK and just drop all your gear (and god) on turn 1, then follow the guidelines for the MuMo challenge.

Good luck with that one! (Actually it may not be too bad - Xom's wrath can sometimes be better than actually sticking with him!)

Ok - another question - I've found the warlock's mirror - but I'm presuming that counts as a buckler? If so - damn!

Tiktacy wrote:Can you throw stuff or is that a weapon?

only if it's fun stuff (fruit, etc.)

OK - one more question. Can you put on self-evoking items, but not evoke them? I'm thinking of a ring of teleportation. Edit: Holy sweet f**k this is a tough challenge, but I feel I'm learning a lot in the process. If you luck into some equipment early on, you just about stand a chance, but even the...

OK - another question - can you have a buckler in your inventory, but not wear it (so you can train shields) ?

And if you manage to combine it with another challenge (e.g. DUPZ, DUHZ, greaterorbrun), do you get bonus points?

I have a few questions about the mummy monk challenge

No body armour allowed, but can you wear robes?
No bucklers allowed, but can you wear a shield?
No evocables allowed, but can you wear an evocable piece of kit (e.g. artifact non-body armour) but just not evoke it?
Has anybody actually done it?

4Hooves2Appendages wrote:What are most of those?

The banners are here: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/

Ololoev, where does greaterorbrunner come on your list?

OK, thanks Neb. Looks like I went for the wrong approach on my Deep Dwarf Greaterorbrunner . Should have stuck with Makhleb (not switched to TSO who doesn't like Haunt), got necro (DDs have a good aptitude for this) and pushed stealth harder (DDs have a great aptitude for this, and you need it anywa...

Since getting greatplayer status, I seem to have had a 35-game losing streak. I think I might be suffering from greatplayer syndrome, where you think you're invincible. Has anyone else had this, or is it just me? Edit: looking at ololoev's definitions below, it looks like the challenge I was setting...

Just wondering how people deal with lack of rMut amulets for doing extended in 0.18? For a 3-runer I don't think it's too much of a problem - there'll probably be enough cure mutation potions to deal with OOF malmutations. For the extended I'm thinking: 1) Butterflies for meat shield, and smite targ...

Code:: Oh no! You have blundered into a Zot trap! Your body's shape seems more normal.

Well played!

1) For god's sake, just hit him!
2) Oh no, not another one!
3) Why didn't I just banish it?!
4) What a beautiful late game randart - that'll come in useful later!
5) Finally, the dungeon exit, and not an enemy in sight!

If your question is about the spirit of the challenge... I'm not the one who invented it, but I feel like if you want some real challenge, pick 3 runes and do not enter a branch (apart from V:1-4 imo) you won't pick the rune in... OK - I'll try and stick to this. By Xom it's going to be tough. But ...

Hi - first post in GDD here - hope I'm not speaking out of place. Just reading this thread, an idea came to me - how about making it so that any monster that sees you going up the stairs will try to follow after you no matter how many squares away they are, in much the same way that they'd follow yo...

Wahey - we are starting to get some momentum going here!

+9 triple crossbow of holy wrath (aka the pump action shotgun of the extended)

(You didn't say it had to be a melee weapon!)

You don't need to curse it, as the lack of skill boost is made up for by the power of the weapon. What you do need is clarity, which you'll have very soon. Just pump long blades to 12, and you're set!

Very well done! 0 deaths on a 15-rune felid is pretty seriously special. How in hell (pun intended) did you manage to lure Antaeus up to the vestibule? Did you have to get in melee range to stairdance him up?

By the wording of #1, you can in fact even clear out all the hell ends and v:5 and slime:6 etc. before you grab the orb. Entry 2 does seem to contradict that, but because it says "it goes without saying" I would just ignore that entry because whoever wrote it is clearly misinformed in som...

I fancied a challenge, so I looked up greaterorbrunners on the learndb: 1.Players who have gotten 15 runes and won after picking up the orb with 3. 2.It goes without saying that you can't enter the 4+ rune branches before picking up the orb (Unless banished to abyss or v1-4). 3.To see greaterorbrun ...

Tiktacy wrote:
ajon wrote:You make the late game great by building a wall between the late game and the early game. And you make the early game monsters build it.

We need to Make Late-game Great Again.

All you have to do is follow the worms! (cue Dave on guitar)

duvessa wrote:Most players on a streak play a LOT more "loosely" after early game than during it

I do that even when not on a streak, except when I am startscumming

That's precisely my point!

But gnolls are overwhelmingly more dangerous. Gnolls appear on D:1 and D:2, where you have few or no identified consumables and a weak character. Cerebov only appears once, in a specific level in a specific place that you have no reason to visit unless you want 15 runes, and by the time it does mak...

Ranged / magic attack from distance to create spawns, immolation, whack one of the spawns, then skidaddle

ZipZipskins wrote:Orbs of fire are an easy peasy cakewalk, they're only 199 on that list

And Cerebov is number 458, with a kill rate of just 0.01%! That makes gnolls 525 times more dangerous!

(I am just kidding, by the way...)

Sar wrote:maybe people don't die to them a lot because they are afraid of them

I know - I'm just being facetious - I do tend to get the heebie-jeebies whenever I see one. Just trying to generate a bit of debate about late game monster difficulty vs early game.

Not me. I've only ever died to one once, and they only seem to be no. 182 on the akrasiac killers list

I tend to find that by the time I get to them, I can easily melee them / throwing net + stab them / OOD them.

Any thoughts?

Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) It was a potion of cancellation. Your magical effects are unravelling. You feel magically purged. You feel a little less mighty now. You start resting. You feel less woody. Your +0 robe unmelds from your body. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * You feel sic...

Code:: Your white imp gestures at the orc. The puff of frost misses the orc. The puff of frost hits you! You die...

Damn summoners...

Oooh - a randart. I'll just nip over and grab it...

Nattefrost wrote:Winning with all species you could have went for an easier combo like NaBe :p . If it was about winning with all backgrounds well yeah.

I was trying to push towards greaterplayer status at the same time (all species, all backgrounds). 4 more wins 'til that now.

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