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If cuts were to be made, I could see putting Hell and Pan in rotation and cutting the generic Demonic Rune in both cases, leaving the game with 10 Runes, but I'd hate to see either be removed completely. Making Hells and Pan an alternative branches sounds like an idea worthy of trying. Also, do not...

Bone dragon armor {*Animate Dead}

If I remember correctly, CLIVAN had Holy Handgrenades of Antioch. And Dark Knights who scream "This but a flesh wound!" when you chop their limbs off (you can do that).

And Mistresses with whips, but that's for a different audience.

Klown wrote:I still like the demonic rune becoming an Elven rune.

For example, mummies could start with no fire vulnerability, but instead become completely incapable of ever resisting fire. What about rather lowering their max rF? Instead of rF x.. they would have rF .. and won't be albe to get the third tier of rF. This is less of a end-game killer than no rF a...

I can always play a game of Unnethack when I decide I really want to play ID mini-games. That game even has unidentified monsters! Dragons spawn with a random description, each of which has a breath weapon of a different element. One of them is disintegrate, which is instant death if it hits you. H...

[*]NAME? (concussion prone) - Upon taking damage in a single blow that is a percentage of max HP (% maxHP damage), your movement is temporarily slowed Osteogenesis Imperfecta ? :D Or simply Brittle Bones? Also: Tentacled mouth - every spell you cast has a small chance to fizzle (independent on spel...

2. Gold dwarves cannot eat food, but regenerate health as long as they are satiated. Gold is your only food source. Eating gold is an ability that does not recover health. This proposal discourages any kind of scumming, and encourages fast play, because, like a spriggan, your food is limited. Sound...

Klown wrote:How about dropping the Demonic Rune(doesn't even have a hardcore guardian like the other 4 Pan runes) and making an Elven Rune for Elven Halls?

Yes please!

What about calling it Fetch? I'd say let it be beam-targeted pure Tloc with HD check. Beam-targeted because of the 'traction beam' feel, which is cool, and because smite-blinking something weak right next to you so the big guy has to wait is awful. Beam-blining not so much as it means you still have...

There was a proposal to remove flame and frost and magic dart and add a wand of exploit weakness, which does a minor ranged attack of whatever type the target is vulnerable to, with magic dart if no vulnerabilities exist. The new wand would retain a lot of situational effectiveness later game inste...

DracheReborn wrote:
Spoiler: show

I thought Ce cannot gain the Big Wings mutation???

demonspawn's facets neeed to be passive, so jump attack and flight are bad. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only activated Ds mutation is Hurl Hellfire. I agree that majority of mutations should be passive, to prevent ability overload. However, small number of activated abilities does for ...

Firstly, I'd like to say that I second Hirsch I in that more Ds mutations would be great, cool and wonderful. The wider the roulette the more interesting the results. :) Next, I don't see anyting bad with the concept of several 'angelic' mutations in Ds pool. It is more or less a rule of fantasy plo...

dpeg wrote:There is also the eternal suggestion of moving the demonic rune to Elf.

Well, that eternal suggestion sound appealing to me. Just saying...

I'd say they are differentiated enough as bcadren presented them.

...and I like it!

Brainiac?

I... wow, I want to play as a floating brain! I approve.

That equipment slots thing sounds rather harsh for the low lvls, but I'd definitely try it befor discarding it.

Actually, shouldn't we also have Afroamerican Mefolk, Caucasian type Merfolk etc. for true correctness?

I think IVAN has a town you can visit instead of going right down into the dungeon. So you could just stay home and play videogames instead of going to work? I forget what's in the town, I think you can stand in the way of banana harvesters and steal bananas? In the New Attnam, you can kill the gov...

Lava orcs that are no more orcs, but 200% lava?

Do it.

Here try this: "Mundane and average, Humans were made from the dust of the ground by some deranged god." An uppity sort of surface-dwelling, hairless ape. Dwarves think of them as fragile, elves think of them as clumsy, and monsters think of them as tasty. :D Still, I can't see anything w...

Quick and dirty suggestion would be that the scroll simply "gets his attention." Doesn't have to be good or bad, play on his mood or not maybe, I dunno. But just the idea that reading a "scroll of harmless chaos" being a way to get the attention of the "god of chaos" s...

About the spoilers - that's why I'm suggesting god ability, so you can see it on religion screen. I'm definitely not against making the scroll useful for everbody, but for the original proposal I wanted to preserve the trickster feeling of the scroll. It's as if there is a vast cult of Xomian mages ...

I'd like to propose a new passive ability for Xom followers: Random Usefulness - changes a behavior of scroll of random uselessness, triggering one of the following effects instead of the usual cantrip: [*] heal for 3d5 HP [*] one temporary beneficial mutation [*] berserker [*] brilliance [*] as !re...

brendan wrote:
Inflate hunger costs rather than metabolic rate.
Impose a cost on removal (like {Contam})

I'd say go for these two.

And you could also ban chunk eating for non-carnivorous races, to make that removal penalty really matter.

Destrous - Sounds pretty grim to me and even a bit latin.

Dy - Because some gods are not happy with long names. It also sounds rather mysteriously: "I am Dy." "Sorry, Dy... and what?" "I am Dy the Dark*!"

*I see only one problem: Yred is also "the Dark".

D’endrrah

O'sir-rees

Raz Ghul

epsilon wrote:free movement action on attack

Yes, I really liked the fencing proposal for long blades. Being able to walk aroud enemy and simultaneously attack would definitely change your tactics, opening a whole new field of combat manoeuvring.

TeshiAlair wrote:It has been a while since I played a LO, but I think they would be more interesting overall if their abilities were based on desperation, aka, scaled off of %hp %mp rather than tension or whatever they use now (unless that has been changed.)

Sounds good.

I don't agree that stasis is wrong as a formicid mechanic. It can be seen as bad for them, but bad as valid drawback, not something to be removed. And they really do for it by their four arms. I mean, plate armour + shield + two-hander axe + large rocks = Formicid with capital F. :) They are hard, b...

Actually I'm a bit sad that I haven't ever died of starvation. I wouldn't mind the hunger to become much greater issue, with a careless play food-wise bringing a risk of death to the player. I'm even for strict ban of chunk eating for non-carnivorous characters, so they have to live on permafood. No...

Don't all summons come from the Abyss? Isn't that where they are summoned from? If they were monsters made out of magic, and not living things pulled in from elsewhere, they'd be conjurations. So if demons are removed from the Abyss, do we need to re-flavor Summoning? I guess making up something li...

Demonic Scales (Transmutations) - for its duration gives the player rank 3 of random scales mutation, any mutually exclusive mutations are suppressed

Malefic Breath (Transmutations, ???) - for its duration gives the player random breath weapon

yeah, and the AoE version (10lv necromancy spell) - wail of banshee Edit: And maybe: Genocide (lvl 13 Necromancy) - let's you pick a kind of monster that will be completely wiped out, also reduced your maxHP by 10% Deplorable Word (lvl 33 Necromancy) - destroys all natural life except for caster, g...

Finger of Death (lvl9 Necromancy) - range 7, instakills target without rN or does 3d50 damage to rN+ target, 2d50 to rN++ and 1d50 to rN+++

XuaXua wrote:Still hoping for the Lich Kitteh

Change Boris to be a felid.

Tiber wrote:It'd be kind of cool for Sunray to be available to players, via fixedart, god power (random gods anyone?), or misc item.

Life Link (Necromancy, Hexes) - beam-targeted, MR resistable; any damage dealt to you is split between you and the affected creature

Removing chunks for everybody except for trolls, felids and kobolds could be nice, especially if there is no increase in permafood spawns.

Siegurt wrote:Really Tukima's is a pretty good spell, it's just annoying to have to wield each weapon you want to animate though.

This race seems pretty strange... which is good. I like it.

Also, race with bad UC aptitude but larger bonuses could be more interesting than any race simply good at UC, so I'd keep it.

The Faith mutation should be a normaly acquirable (bad) mutation!!!

Slag 'Em (Conjurations, Alchemy) - Beam-targeted, shoots a bolt that deals low damage, but causes a special status. While under the effect of the status, the 'slagged' creature will take increased damage from all elements (but it does not increase meele/pure conj damage). Or let it be Poison spell,...

Rename Teleport Other, let it be called Deportation.

I like labyrinths.

The minotaur stalker idea also sound interesting.

Bolt of Filth (Conjurations, Alchemy) - Beam-targeted, shoots a bolt that deals low damage, but causes a special status. While under the effect of the status, the 'filthy' creature will take more damage from all elements (but it does not increase meele/pure conj damage). Phasewalk (Hexes, Charms, Tr...

I was thinking about the new summoning cap and I must say I don't really like it as a solution. Of course, summoning was strange, overpowered and a bit unfun before (although it felt good to watch your hordes killing one sole poor enemy :D ), but capping it is very inelegant for me. And also, it bri...

Slimeglide (Alchemy) - Choose one of the eight directions; you start to move in a given direction and won't stop until the way is blocked by some obsatcle (wall, statue, monster, ...). You move with a speed boost as with swiftness and can't deliberately stop, but you can make use of any other action...

Well, I like the idea. It is complicated, but still very very interesting and worth second thought!

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