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XuaXua wrote:muh flavour

I'd prefer a game that is fun to a game that is flavourful, thank you very much.

Wait, you can get loot by digging in that vault full of bees? Why did no-one tell me of this?

SaidTheAlligatorKingToHisSon wrote: Disintigration wands and OC/silver statues (cool I can blow them up!) was one example for Crawl.

One very bad example that required going and spoilering oneself. It was removed for a reason.

This seems on topic. Mods, can you let us play around for a bit before this is deleted or kicked to cyc?

I think the desecration thing could actually work with all the gods, based on the various rivalries. Good gods would approve of desecrating evil god altars, zin would approve of messing with JJs stuff, Trog and Sif would want each other's stuff smashed, and so on. Each god would have a few other god...

Difficulty is allready implimented via races. Some races are easier than others, so if you want a easier game, chose a harder race.
No, we aren't going to tell you which races are easier than average. Why would we do that?

@XuaXua: New gods are really required to have unique initials? Yes, allthough you are allowed to stretch it: TSO's initials are apparently 1. @khalil: I like #5-6 a lot. It would be tough to justify requesting a bunch of actual new mutations, but access to useless "fluff" mutations wouldn...

Thought a bit about this and realized that he seems fairly low on abilities. All he has is the two surge abilities and increased MP regen. A few power ideas I thought of off the top of my head: 1:(always on, costs no piety): Miscast effects have a (piety based) chance to give glow instead of their n...

I don't think the ability being useable in the midst of combat is a large buff. No more so than being able to use Zin's Cure all Mutations in just one turn, as you can do currently. It's a one-time free Holy Word or Torment for TSO/Kiku respectively, as it stands now. Kiku hands out torments anyway...

I like this idea. It rewards what would otherwise be non-optimal play, which is great, because I have never played a game in which optimal play was fun(Although DCSS is much better in that regard than, say, Nethack) This sounds a lot like porting Marauders from MAGE: The Ascension to DCSS. (crash co...

Arrhythmia wrote:So status quo for crawl then?

I think I just died a little inside.

Eh. While choosing Demonspawn mutations is on the "ain't going to happen" list, I kinda understand the argument here. For all intents and purposes, you can chose monstrous demonspawn anyway, it just requires startscumming. That is the very definition of degenerate behavior, so I suppose th...

Hey, this is GDD, at least have the decency of using spoiler tags, I can smell the hammer from here ;) I tried reading the lord of the rings like five times, every time tom bombadil appeared I just wished for a flamethrower and some way of porting inside the book to burn him, his house, his forest,...

You could prevent jellies (and necrophagi etc) from eating items seen by the player; that's consistent with the behaviour for every other monster. I dont think eating items you have not seen is the good part of jellies design. Then what is the good part of jellies design? Eating items you have seen...

Here's what I'd do to reform TR. I'd love to code it up, but I have serious doubts as to my competency: You'd only get the one abomination, to differentiate it from the other undead creation spells. It would gain hit dice for every crawling corpse consumed, and it would have other stats (speed, dama...

Actually, what I would *really* like for Sif, is if invocations counted as a "spellcasting skill" for the purpose of gaining sif piety... That seems neither intuitive, nor flavorful, nor particularly necessary for balance. It's a tradeoff, just like all skill investment choices are... It'...

By the way, everything here is non-professional, we are all laymen. (Laypeople these days?) Yes, but the Dev Team is still in charge of what does and doesn't end up in crawl. Thus, discussion that is based on a misunderstanding of what the Dev Team wants crawl to be is just a waste of everyone's ti...

Add Orc Demolishers, who have a random launcher and a small supply of exploding ammo for that launcher. That way they wake up the rest of the level and alert them to your position. Also, Ogre Heavers, who take enemies adjacent to themselves and throw them at you to damage you and put the enemy in m...

getting shafted Solved by running away from fights until you get to the up stairs, uncontrolled tele Solved by running away from fights until you get to the up stairs. abyssed Solved by having a high MR and not fighting monsters with unidentified glowing weapons, thus avoiding getting abyssed in th...

That's correct. Getting into a possibly deadly situation is much more difficult if you have every (notable) item generated in the dungeon in your inventory. It's not harder, but there is a point where you do not need that many healing potions. There only difference between having 5 potions of cure ...

characters already had access to any item that has generated in the game, because they could go back to previous levels I think what he's saying is you don't have access to them all right at that particular moment. In a fight, you only have access to however much stuff you brought with you. However...

Because scrolls of random uselessness can sometimes cast summon butterflies when read, this scroll can be useful in a pinch to block ranged attacks. These scrolls can be a lifesaver against foes like Cerebov, whose iron shots will be thwarted by your butterflies. I kinda wish there was a scroll of ...

I'd also like to get rid of the "fat and ugly", as well as the similar text for Wiglaf (and ogres and orcs etc etc). Perhaps fill Wiglaf's description with Beowulf jokes? "The last of his kind(both a reference to how Wiglaf is the last of the Wægmundings in Beowulf and to how he's th...

The problem with poison always was and still is that damage-over-time is not a good mechanic, especially when you get a magic cure that instantly removes the damage-over-time. The only situation where it ever ends up working differently from instant damage is if you have some way to actively change...

It is not that I do not understand the reasoning behind the change to just being able to gift 1 item. I just do not feel like, as I mentioned in my previous post, this change has made my experience with Beogh more fun/interesting. This is probably because you weren't playing Optimally. The optimal ...

I'd remove pan. though obviously first six levels of hells need a revamp Pan at least has some new and interesting content in the form of Demonspawn. Hell, not so much. I will agree that most of the postgame content is borked. Tomb is still annoyingly predicable, although much less so than it used ...

In that event, I think the charging for a critical hit thing should be a possibility with monsters, as not only is pillardancing degenerate badwrongfun, it's also not fun. Like, at all. As an alternative, regeneration could deactivate whenever there are monsters in your LOS. This would create some p...

KittenInMyCerealz wrote:I like this idea.
currently mutations and "managing" them is boring.
and you hardly ever get any before Zot/Pan

I get lots of mutations because I chug every potion of mutation and chunk of mutagenic meat I find, but that's not exactly optimal behavior.

Huh. I'll agree with them on demigods, they're basically humans minus gods, and humans are already kinda boring. Whatever happened to that abstract worshipers thing that was being cooked up a while back?

Even he doesn't deserve that. I played Nethack once and ended up clawing my own eyes out.

It also suggests that the monster damage formula should change to be more dependent on weapon type, to avoid unintuitive outcomes like this. (I remember it's come up before - iirc warlords chucking stones were a main offender, though I'm not sure what affect the ranged combat rewrite has had on tha...

I like the idea of putting a bounty on a creature. In return for paying a lot of gold, you choose one monster and all the other monsters drop whatever they're doing and kill that one guy.

We know that ranged attacks is a property that can make pond monsters meaningful. I have already stated that I do not believe this. And no, I cannot come up with something that makes water monsters meaningful, short of something like a water monster that instantly kills you as soon as it enters LOS...

Sar wrote:
crate wrote:one of the major design goals is pretty much precisely described as "getting rid of perceived 'tedium'"

so when will everything past Lair be removed then

Same time they cut down lair to 4ish levels.

It's the same general map, but with subvaults now. Didn't know about the monsters though.

Holy wrath has at least some use, in that almost everything in the extended game is harmed by it, so at that point it's essentially just a brand that damages everything.
Dragonslaying does nothing but arbitrarily kill players in a single hit because they chose the wrong race.

Clearly you have never been to tomb. It's the same three enemies over and over.

Passive idea: your max HP or max MP goes up.
Other passive idea: your max AC or EV goes up.

Perhaps a new type of mummy to ride the dragon and to spice up the tomb? Mummy warrior, comes with a weapon, armour, and a few weak spells.

Does the Bonerider's description have any references to KOL's Bonerdagon? Because it should.

Hubris should be easy to avoid, but hard to kill. You can avoid fighting him forever, but once you start a fight there's no way out other than killing him. That way, the only reason you get stuck fighting hubris is hubris.

I didn't realize. Thanks for telling me!

That's still not guaranteed, and given how much the difficulty can vary depending on what loot was dropped and what your build is (A mino with r<foo>++ is going to screw over <foo> elementalists, but any other build will do just fine,) there's a good chance escape won't be possible when it's really ...

Proposal: allow autoexplore in labs

SchwaWarrior wrote:We could always buff Mummies by giving them the death-curse ability like their enemy counterparts. Whomever kills them gets death-cursed. Seems like a reasonable buff to me.

This is the third time I've seen this joke.
I think someone even submitted a patch once.

Why doesn't Kiku give recall? It's not necromancy, but it is a very nice spell for necromancers. The same reasoning could be applied to many other spells (e.g. haste, which isn't only really good for the necromancer themself but also interacts with your minions like recall). Yes, but haste isn't re...

Why doesn't Kiku give recall? It's not necromancy, but it is a very nice spell for necromancers.

I think a few of the melee attributes are oK, but judging by their health mallus and their fighting of -2, I don't think melee would be a particularly good idea with this race.

So, a slightly less terrible mummy? I'm OK with that.

Your grammar and spelling is OK. I'd certainly love it TR got buffed. I love the idea of making some kind of zombie voltron. Actually, another thing: instead of basing the number of those tiny corpse things created on the weight of the corpse, base it of HD. That way, it'll stay useful in the lower ...

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