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In 0.25, Okawaru is the only god remaining that gifts ammo. For bows, crossbows, and large rocks there is sufficient ammo on the floor to (eventually) adopt a hunter lifestyle at all ranges. This is not the case for sling bullets and javelins and darts, sometimes even if Shoals spawns, though there ...

Here is my conclusion for the stabbing algorithm. ⋅ Abort (no stab) if: ⋅ Not a melee attack (reaching polearm okay) ⋅ Player is confused ⋅ Target cannot be seen ⋅ Target is a plant etc. (immobile, no XP) ⋅ Player Dex ≤ 0 ⋅ Player...

Thank you so much for the extremely helpful response!

I want to know how stabbing works under the hood in 0.25. The wiki article is for 0.17 and refers to four stabbing tiers, but there have only been two stabbing tiers since 0.19. LearnDb is even more obsolete since it refers to long blades and one-handed polearms as having a distinct stab multiplier,...

One thing I've never understood about Nemelex, old and new, is whether piety gain was tied to card use. I heard many times, "Use your cards often" but I wasn't sure whether this was an actual piety mechanism that I never tracked down as actually existing, or simply a maxim reflecting the n...

No idea if this is a good idea or not, but it's an idea. "Sacrifice your attunement to the shadows. This is an incredible sacrifice."

I play almost exclusively offline. In the past I've always emptied my bones folder to avoid spawning ghosts. Now in 0.22, I'd like to have bones files, since when I don't have them the ghost vaults make clones of my current character and that's boring. I think I've figured out a file sharing solutio...

If you do have a lot of SH, though, reflection is very nice in Snake, Shoals, Vaults, Elf and Depths. Not worth the slot in Slime or Zot.

On a HOWn that had already found a vampiric demon blade (on the floor in L:5, no less!). Taken off Louise on D:15.

Code:: +9 large shield {+Blink +Inv Str+2 Slay+3}

I have a suspicion that SpEE is a better stabber than SpEn. Petrify stab lasts longer because it has a higher spellpower cap, and you start with Sandblast instead of Corona, and your starting book has the tools to deal with hex-resistant monsters.

No, but I've found yaktaurs to be more reliably plentiful. I know, I have enough arrows if I only use them in important fights. But I find that too tedious and tend to just Tab.

In 3-5 rune games at least, once you get to vaults you don't have to worry about ammo for crossbows, but arrows can get scarce if you don't have Snake.

Okay, thank you, I accept the consensus that losing mindelay for a short time is not a big deal.

Shard1697 wrote:I don't think it's actually that important to maintain mindelay at all times.

I have certainly learned not to rush to mindelay at the expense of defenses. However, this particular character is a minotaur of staves who sacrificed Armour skill, so extra weapon levels will be relatively cheap.

How much ought I overtrain a weapon to retain mindelay when using Ru abilities, assuming that there is no draining also done by monsters?

I'm using Infestation for the first time, too. Duvessa's comment on it in his "spell guide for cool people" was really helpful in understanding what to do with it: it lets you transform popcorn into allied death scarabs. I flat-out destroyed Desolation of Salt with it. And BVC is indeed ge...

I have a DENe in Vaults that has just learned Haunt, the first time I've ever used the spell. I am guessing I'm not using it right because thus far it seems underwhelming. I've used it when I have a lone tough monster, such as a ettin or stone giant, and all my derived undead from the previous fight...

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MainiacJoe wrote:But I don't*. Good job to devs on balancing that loss with great scroll/potion drops.

Isn't this only a myth? I mean, there might be slightly more of heal/haste pots, but to me it is not noticeable.

well, I don't miss the wands, so there's that. Anecdotal evidence, sure.

Irony: a recent HONe went long blades because it found a +6 long sword with useful artifact properties in early dungeon. Alas I died (stupidly) before I could afford the +10 double sword in a shop.

But I don't*. Good job to devs on balancing that loss with great scroll/potion drops.

*I've not played Mu. Do Mu have no way to haste anymore?

I've become persuaded that choosing Long Blades for the riposte is a trap. Ba is the only species that has LBl as its highest aptitude. Long blades do less damage than M&F and require more XP than Staves. So is there any reason for a background that chooses a starting weapon to choose Long Blades?

Yes vamp draining is great and I've been using it a lot. I added "flash_screen_message += you feel better" to my rcfile to get a better feel for how frequently the whip and Makh are healing me. I have an amulet of faith in a shop that I'm about $150 away from plus a couple unID'd ones sinc...

Actually, I have no skill in M&F because I've been rushing Vile Clutch (0.21). Whether that's wise or not, that's almost done. No weapon bigger than a trident has spawned with an ego yet. I'll stick with the whip at zero-skill for a while longer, until I find an ego on something above Fi/Gl star...

I have a DDNe^Makh that took a +2 vampiric whip off a gnoll on D:3 and is now on D:6. This has gone very well so far, but even a vampiric whip will need to be upgraded sometime. I have little experience with DD; do I just stop using the whip when it stops healing me enough to stay ahead of fights? S...

Oughtn't TSO hate the Ring of Shadows because it makes umbra?

cjo wrote:What do you think of Ignite Poison as a spell? I don't tend to get much mileage out of it, but then I haven't used it much.

IMO it works great with OTR or green draconian, but now that Poisonous Cloud is gone that's about it.

If you inscribe all your throwables with '=f', then when you quiver '-' it will leave it empty.

Thanks.

Well, that's ridiculous. There ought to be a percentage chance that the slaying bonus increases based on the percentage of damage that you dealt directly.

So, an ally takes uot 90%, and then I finish it off: bonus to slaying?

With an in-progress MfSk^Yred I've noticed that often non-summoned enemies die during a Song of Slaying and the slaying bonus does not increase. I can think of a few reasons why this might be happening. Which of these are accurate? ⋅ Enemies killed entirely by allies do not advance the sla...

I feel like a more important question is why on earth you would want to make Abyss your third rune? Vaults is really tough. Royal Jelly is tough. Abyss is actually quite easy albeit somewhat slow. Royal Jelly is the most straighforward of these, though. That's why it's almost always my third rune n...

Jiyva gives you rCorr for Fedhas' Summon Oklobs.

I've finished Spider and Shoals and Elf:1-2, just started Vaults. I did find that non-body-armor MR+. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.1 (tiles) character file. MainiacJoe the Champion of Chaos (HONe) Turns: 46670, Time: 06:27:59 Health: 160/160 AC: 23 Str: 15 XL: 19 Next: 54% Magic: 35/44 EV: ...

What I've wondered is, are Hu, Be, AM, Wz and FE still the only recommended backgrounds for Og, even after its spell aptitudes were all raised?

Siegurt wrote:The three most important things for crawl are: understanding positioning; understanding noise; and having good (and early) threat assessment skills (both in terms of individual monsters, and in terms of the current situation).

Repeating this for emphasis. It's succinct and true.

I sure could be using Agony more, that's for sure.

Is there a heavier body armour? Robe is not a good idea for character with Str 18 IMHO, all those spells will remain castable in ring mail and probably even chain mail (without training any Armour). HO is the best race for casting high level spells in heavy armour by the way, just train Armour. Not...

Finished Orc and Dungeon. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.1 (tiles) character file. MainiacJoe the Champion of Chaos (HONe) Turns: 31273, Time: 04:00:28 HP: 134/134 (135) AC: 15 Str: 18 XL: 16 Next: 12% MP: 29/29 EV: 21 Int: 17 God: Makhleb [******] Gold: 360 SH: 6 Dex: 21 Spells: 4/34 levels ...

Indeed. Quick blade of pain is ridiculous. Btw, I don't know why Excruciating Wounds exists. All other branding spells are removed. Probably because the Necromancy school is so underpowered nowadays. In the near future, I'm most worried about skeletal monsters. I've had good success against tough n...

Here is the character thus far, having finished Lair. The quick blade has been plenty effective and I feel no need to replace it anytime soon. S branches are Spider and Shoals. ?BW is one of three remaining unID'd scrolls. I found the Book of Death in the L:6 vault so I feel strong at the moment. I'...

Thanks Airwolf. In the interim I had decided to train LBl slightly to get it from 5.4 to 6, and then use the scimitar while boosting my defenses and invocations more. Then when those are at a good place, train maces. That seems like a fine plan. Turns out via fsim that the quick blade was better ev...

When I'm fighting an inv monster without SInv, I retreat to a corridor and then walk back and forth in that corridor.

Thanks Airwolf. In the interim I had decided to train LBl slightly to get it from 5.4 to 6, and then use the scimitar while boosting my defenses and invocations more. Then when those are at a good place, train maces.

You didn't need that faeries dragon armour since your barding gave you rElec. That STR-5 was a big deal for a character that kills with a weapon.

This character took a short sword of venom off the very first D:1 monster it fought. I trained SBl to 4 to get a delay of 9, to be quicker than the typical monster. Then I got a scroll of acquirement early, and got a quick blade out of it. So I got Animate Dead online and then trained the quick blad...

YASD. This character died in Depths. I started this character, then set it aside and started a HuBe because I misplaced the thumb drive this character was on, then won that HuBe and found the thumb drive. Well five minutes in, that pack of four yaktaurs was nothing for that 50AC HuBe I'd just finish...

I have very little experience to add to this discussion, but it has made me reconsider my reluctance to use GSpirit on character who use MP for their primary killdudes, that is, which use MP to kill thought opponents. My fear is always, if I take more damage than I thought I would, then I'm very low...

VeryAngryFelid wrote:Gds is fine for many characters including this one.

Hmm. So when is GDS not appropriate? Why was it for this character? Clearly I'm not understanding your thinking on GDA, including why it's "overrated" in your signature.

VAF, I know you are not a fan of GDA. I did use this in Zot, because it gave me rF, RPois, AND rElec. But I'd left a Quickdragon scales and Tiamat's cloak outside Zot and intended to change clothes for the orb run, and then travelled to D:0 instead of Z:0 when I got the orb. I realized my mistake on...

YAVP! I finally won a Hu after about 170 tries, and I had to give in and run a Be. But I won! Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.1-1-g345015f (webtiles) character file. 2029247 MainiacJoe the Hawkeye (level 27, 207/207 HPs) Began as a Human Berserker on Feb 24, 2018. Was a High Priest of Trog. Es...

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