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I don't really like to make CIPs, as they seem to be a death sentence to whatever character I'm playing. However, Xom is just being too nice not to show off. Xom gave me a Cloak of Darkness on D:3; I had chosen Short Blades as my weapon. Despite being shafted 3 floors at once, I was able to climb ba...

A character dump would be very useful because these types of choices are heavily subjective. If your character is built a certain way, I could see possibly choosing the FDA over the CPA. I'm pretty sure CPA is going to be better for your character, but I have no way of saying that with any certainty.

Finally got my second Xom win. This is my first time playing through rune-lock, and I enjoyed it a lot more than I expected to. Doing Spider/Shoals much earlier was a nice change of pace, and the branch ends were fairly difficult. This was my first Demonspawn with the repel missiles mutation, and it...

I don't know if this is new or not, but Xom can animate your weapon. Since he can also swap your weapon with a monster's, it is a really good idea to carry a secondary weapon when worshiping Xom.

Red/Pale/Grey/Mottled/Purple are the colors I always want. Black/White/Yellow/Green are definitely the worse color options in comparison. I actually think Yellow is better than Green, but this is a biased opinion because I dig the acidic bite.

The delay starts at 100% (a normal "turn") and has 10% taken off for each 5 levels, so at level 25 UC you hit "mindelay" for your fists. This doesn't matter too much, but this mechanic has been changed. It is actually every 5.4 levels now, so at level 27 you will hit the minimum...

Unarmed Combat is very powerful and completely worth the investment. It has by and far the highest base damage in the game, but requires more XP than all other weapon types. However, high levels of UC has zero problems killing anything in the game (even without Claws mutation or forms).

@Abominae, fair quote. Still, if you're going long blades, it's because you want the two-handed weapons, so why not make the two-handed progression better/easier? I don't know where the assumption that choosing Long Blades means I want to use two-handed weapons comes from. They have great 1h weapon...

Lasty wrote:Wights have great swords often enough that you can usually pick one up before Lair if you want one, and great swords are generally better than scimitars.

dck wrote: the two-handed realm of Lbl does its job fine

dck wrote: It's the 1h part of Lbl that bothers me.

Does slaying affect auxiliary attacks?

If Fighters warrant a buff, just give them +0 Gauntlets & Boots in addition to Scale Mail and Shield (this is assuming Fi is designed to be a defensive background). Or just give them a +2 Scale Mail. You're not going to use a +2 Scale Mail all game, so it is a decent AC boost until you can find ...

How do these function now? The knowledge bots still say stuff about EVP. Does encumbrance rating affect the spiny mutation?

I've always been partial to Cacodemons. Mutations are annoying, but I really like bolt of energy for its digging effect. By extension, I also like Deep Troll EE's. Newer Ereshkigal has been my favorite unique for quite some time now.

This may be very obvious advice, but Trolls are extremely good on this sprint. There are a lot of monsters that you can simply walk away from while regenerating your HP; it allows you to reset a lot of the earlier fights in this sprint. AE, Wr, and Ne are extremely powerful backgrounds for reasons s...

I don't think all the -3 aptitudes make up for the fact that no species has a +5 in any skill, and this does. Not sure how powerful that would or wouldn't be, but it seems like too much, especially for Fighting. You'd be better off increasing the frequency they gain HP up from the zero you have. Th...

Do you mean Chei helps people realize their errors related to movement? Yes, other characters can survive after rushing towards an Orc and seeing 2 Orc Priests just behind it, worshiper of Chei will die here... No, my point is being able to move correctly is extremely powerful and is not just for d...

Cheibrados is an incredibly good god for people who do not know how to position themselves and don't understand the value of movement during combat. Unfortunately, these are two things that when done correctly are way better than Cheibrados ever.

Uh, I'm not positive exactly where to place this, but I would like some feedback on this species I'm working on. I'm not posting this in GDD as this species would be a replacement for both Felids and "monstrous" Demonspawn. In other words, I have zero thoughts or hopes of this making it in...

One idea for Cheibrados would be to remove Bend Time and make it a passive, retaliation type ability. When a follower of Chei is subject to a hostile action, Bend Time is cast upon the target. It still checks HD, and its power still increases with Invocations. This retaliation is made regardless of ...

Okay, this thread is getting weird. It has been established that you can use your launcher on every relevant threat your character encounters, and the chance of running out of ammo is close to nil. In order to make sure you don't run out of ammo, you switch to a weapon much weaker than your primary ...

No one is arguing that playing a **Be that only ever trains axes is how things work. Nor is anyone arguing that **Cj should never train anything that isn't conjurations. What is being argued is that unlike a lot of backgrounds, Hunter is practically forced to find a secondary means of dealing damage...

A controller emulator? I would assume it is an emulator for an xbox 360 controller. A lot of PC games are compatible with an xbox 360 controller but will not function with other usb controllers. I could never figure out how to get one to work though. You can also try a program called Joy2Key. It wi...

Oh, okay, I just bought a shimming helmet, hoping it would be better. How would I get the plate (crystal) or dragon armour? and should I wear any plate armour over +N chain mail or something else? Plate is more than fine for the entire game. I would wear plate over pretty much any chain mail or sca...

Sandman25 wrote:I believe Bolt of Fire/Ice/Drain/Lightning can be blocked with a shield.

Bolt spells cannot be blocked. Stuff like Iron Shot, LCS, and OoD can be.

If you want to use a shield, I would get M&F to 16 and use that Eveningstar of Protection. This should last you until Trog hooks it up with a better one-handed mace; you can also use the new Vorpalize scroll to try for a better brand on the Eveningstar. Get Shields skill to 15 when you find a re...

The only feasible argument I can see from this thread is that allowing UC as a choice restricts the Monk background. As minmay said: just remove the background. I'd be very surprised (and probably disappointed) if players made a Mo solely upon the extra ** piety. It has always been a nice perk for s...

Moving is really important for a melee character in extended. The ability to not suck at moving is way more important than anything Chei could possibly offer a character in extended. If you don't want to use TSO, you can do the same thing except switch to Jiyva or Ash instead of Chei. Oka > TSO > Ji...

I would take the PDA. You have been pumping dexterity, and you're hitting the point where you're going to want to invest in dodging soon enough. PDA is much better than plate armour for an AC + EV strategy. Also, you're going to find enough gold for the ring and amulet eventually. They will still be...

I really like new Gargoyles. Huge natural AC coupled with low health made for a pretty interesting character. The innate resists are pretty cool, and coupled with Jiyva I pretty much resisted everything that can annoy me. Not much else to say about this character, it just went along and poked everyt...

Getting 15 Shield skill for ~30 SH is much easier than obtaining ~30 EV when you're wearing heavy armour and/or have low dexterity. SH works pretty much identically to EV against melee attacks in a corridor; this happens to be an ideal situations for most melee characters. I'm not in anyway saying t...

I don't think this is a good test because neither of those gods are the best for a VM.

Berserkitis only comes into play when you are striking a monster in melee. Judging by your skills, you never do that (even though you probably should). Casting a spell or doing any other action will have no chance of making you berserk. If you ever did want to hit stuff, you can also use an amulet o...

It seems there's some weird myth that short blades can't kill everything in the game. You can win a short blade melee character without ever stabbing. Quickblades are really strong melee weapons, and you don't even need a great brand for them to be effective.

Overkill is the best kind of kill, and there's no such thing as "Too much damage". Unless, of course - you don't like the idea of being too powerful, which doesn't really seem like it's the intention. Okay, so you proved my point that Statue Form does more damage than you ever need it do....

I can't see what's the bad part of whacking out completely absurd amounts of damage while having more hp (and he already will have a ton of it) and some actual AC. I mean maybe it's just my bias from rolling two ~60 Str statue formers, but statue form is no joke if you have temporal distortion. A T...

Don't get Statue Form. Train more Dodging. Get Control Teleport. Stop training for bad spells with schools you won't use like Mephitic Cloud. You have Claws 3, 15 UC, and a moderate Ring Of Slaying; you can punch the crap out of pretty much anything to come for quite some time. I'd get ~22 UC at som...

Shields aren't bad.

I don't get why stats need to have a greater impact. Low dexterity species have crappy EV; low int species have worse spellpower / more hunger; low str species can't wear higher penalty armours effectively. Intelligence is a crappy stat to raise unless spell power is relevant to your build, so it's ...

Shields are viable. Are shields optimum? A lot of the time, they really aren't. Can you still win the game (3 or 15 rune) with a huge shield investment? Yes, you can do so easily. Shields and increasing shield skill do exactly what they're supposed to do; it makes you much less vulnerable to crap th...

This character turned out pretty cool. All the mid level earth spells are really good throughout the entire game. Petrify is way better than I ever thought it would be; it only really stopped being super useful in Zot and Abyss. Iron Shot, LRD or just melee took out whatever I couldn't petrify. I us...

I've been there. I found it eventually fades when you move on to another obsession. Or you learn how to do crap in moderation or something. I still play crawl from time to time though. It's an excellent game in that respect: Short, sweet and always different.

I would probably use that quick blade over that sabre. Then I would equip that +5, +5 ring of slaying because it is your best ring. Then since you're a KoBe I'd just drag them up and berserk them down. Eat them and repeat the process.

Welp, went on and did 15 runes. Torment resistance was pretty nice, but PbP was the real hero. Might or Agility from Hellfire and Torment is really awesome. This character used to have pretty great EV, but Jiyva decided I needed 40+ strength instead. Oh well, Jiyva is still super convenient for runn...

Decided to roll up another short blade zerker. I found an amulet of faith on D:2 and got myself a decent quickblade on D:9. From there it has just been poking dudes until they die. Got some pretty cool mutations; PbD and PbP is a cool combo. Would've preferred a different tier three facet, but eh, I...

Eh, if I hadn't have found slaying, I probably would have switched to Long Blades at some point. I had a ton of good options for them throughout the game. As far as Zot goes, the only real stopping monster without slaying is Orb of Fire. All the other higher AC monsters (Bone Dragon, Golden Dragon, ...

Pretty sure I found that +0, +9 Ring of Slaying on like D:6 or so. That should probably win you the game, and it pretty much did for me. Only really notable part of the run is getting abyss'd when I didn't want to use a distortion sabre anymore. Almost died to a Reaper + Starcursed Mass, but got luc...

So if MiBe can survive scumming Pan, he can get 27 in everything. Oh, I never said you couldn't get Necromutation on a MiBe; I just tried to imply that it was a really stupid thing to do. The fact that you're retort is lolpanscum gives 27 in all skills just reaffirms that it is indeed pretty stupid...

PS. I see nothing wrong with Necromutation on a fighter (even on MiBe who abandoned Trog). It just requires extended for exp. I would farm Pan for Necromutation skills before trying Hell. As much as I'd love to advocate getting spells in heavy armour, I think you're really underestimating just how ...

Just gotta say, that is one beefy ass character.

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