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Thanks all! It was tough (man, Deep Troll Earth Elementalists are tough to hide from!) but after lots of running and a few teleports I was able to pick everyone off and clear the level.

Thanks. I went with VeryAngryFelid's advice and blinked north unscathed. My inclination is to now step right, butterflies, then walk down the hall hoping to escape. Is that what you would do? Should I buff at all? I'm a bit afraid of running into something at the end of the hall. Screenshot_2017-09-...

Oh man. What the heck? Is it me, or is this unusually brutal? Any tips on how to get past it? (Other strategic tips also welcome.) A polar bear, a slime creature, a great orb of eyes, 2 glowing orange brains, a sphinx, a spriggan berserker, 2 yaktaurs, 2 giants, a rakshasa, a lich, a deep troll eart...

I'm playing my first necromancer and was looking for some advice. (I'm also on my first streak ever (yay!) and I'd like to keep it that way.) 1. I was trying to get Kiku since that is the default necromancer god, but of course Kiku the very last altar to be found. Should I give up on Kiku? What othe...

Well, that was unanimous.

I switched and it's going OK so far. Thanks for the advice.

Started a DD w/ Axes, now at 11 skill. Just found a Firestarter, which seems like a beast. Is it worth it to switch at this point? In general, at what point are you "too invested" to switch weapon classes? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1-1-g8b1a95d (webtiles) character file. Roy th...

Thanks. Healing and running worked fine. Grinder just chased me stupidly.

I'll re-equip the shield and focus exclusively on Axes. I was thinking that adding to my weapon delay was a bad idea, but I guess not.

Ended up winning with that game. Yay! I'm trying a DDFi, never played DD before. I have no idea when I should use the healing ability so I've been walking around at low health, which seems dangerous to me. At any rate, I just ran into Grinder. It seems like guaranteed death for me, but I think good ...

I'm training polearms to 26 so I can use my +2 bardiche of chopping, which is in a stash. I know it's kind of a waste with Heroism but I'd rather have min delay always, and with +4 aptitudes it did not seem like a huge investment. I've been using the buckler + trident because I wanted rF+, and the d...

Is inhibited regeneration worth using !mut for? I've been fine the whole game but now I'm wondering if I should play mutation roulette, since I've been in a few scrapes where I'm running away and regeneration would have been nice. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1-1-g8b1a95d (webtiles) charact...

And yes, Heroism + Finesse did the trick. I was scared off by that huge hit at first but must have been bad luck. Thanks!

VeryAngryFelid wrote:Stop training Throwing, you already have javelins at min delay.

But throwing base damage scales with skill, so don't I want to get to 27 (or 22 + heroism)?

Another situation where the optimal tactics elude me. I opened a door to find 3 elf knights, 1 elf mage, 1 elf archer, and an ironheart preserver staring me in the face. On the same turn I opened the door, an elf knight hit me with a Stone Arrow for about 25% of my HP. So this looks like an emergenc...

Ended up using the ?blink since it seemed to be the only safe option. Now in Lair.

Strategy-wise, I'm a little worried that I'm not getting enough escape options. Haven't found any useful books, and Throwing only softens things up before they reach melee. I'll let you know how I progress.

Thanks for feedback, everyone! So it seems like a ?blink situation then, which was my inclination. IIUC, ?fog would be risky since he might see through the fog on my way to the corner (4 turns). In terms of "avoiding" emergencies, you should generally react to Rupert as soon as he moves in...

I often find myself in a situation that seems like it will be an emergency in a few turns unless I play properly. In these situations, I'd like to learn what a good player would do. So I plan to post these cases in this one thread. If you have any advice, I'm happy to hear it. Also happy to hear any...

Thanks for the advice, but it looks like I was dead no matter what. There were just too many eels. This floor layout seems impossible if you get shafted, at least if you're not a great player.

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Psyche is to the west, and there are electric eels all over place. Ultimately I need to get to the stairs to the NE, so I'm going to have to get past those eels at some point. I'm just not sure how.

Fell through a shaft 6 -> 8 next to a manticore, a hippogriff, and a bear. Ouch. I teleported to safety and got lucky with an unidentified scroll of magic mapping, so I'm pretty close to escaping at least this level. But now there's a centaur and a one or more electric eels standing between me and t...

Duly noted. This was my first Chei character so I wasn't familiar with my options. I also stupidly made several moves in a row, rather than thinking through each one carefully.

Duly noted. I'll never enter ice cave unprepared again! Thanks Majang! You were right - Tele kicked in immediately after moving so I was unscathed. But I wound up next to an Ice Statue! Ha! Stupidly I thought I could hop away but I got killed by the ice cloud. I probably should have done another ?te...

I'm trying out Barachians and having a good time. Going with melee + supplemental ranged so far since I haven't found any spellbooks yet. Managed to escape from the Abyss at XL 11, which was scary. Now I find myself standing next to a Frost Giant since I stupidly wandered into an Ice Cave without an...

It's included by default, but if you have set a custom dump_order in your crawlrc, you'll need to add skill_gains to the list. Also, it will work as described for all new savegames. For existing savegames created before the patch, the table will have reduced fidelity (e.g. only show every 3rd gain) ...

Great - thanks for reviewing it!

And I'm dead. I saw an Orb of Fire on Zot:1 and stupidly tried attacking it instead of running away. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17.1 (tiles) character file. 608225 VSAs the Hawkeye (level 27, -46/145 HPs) Began as a Vine Stalker Assassin on Jan 22, 2016. Was the Champion of Okawaru. Killed f...

Cool, thanks!

Should this thread be moved to the Contributions forum to get picked up?

The !invis worked like a charm! Both enemies immediately lost me and wandered away. Never would have thought of that. Thanks!

Thanks for the advice! I ended up killing Psyche, but the needles of sleeping were a huge pain. I kept putting her to sleep, but then she would wake up whenever I switched weapons. I'm now in another situation that could possibly be a learning experience. The situation looks bad - I'm on a tiny isla...

Patch: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10255 I added a 'current levels' column at the end, but I opted not to drop empty XL columns. I think it is very rare to have an XL with no skill gains, so it is probably not worth special casing, and when it when it does randomly happen, I think it...

Awesome! I'll send a patch shortly. Any feedback on how it looks? Is it easily understandable? For example, is it clear in the following (real) example that M&F raised to skill level 4 during XL 1 then to skill level 5 during XL 3? Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 ---------------+--------------- Maces &...

I really like the "Action" table in the morgue file - it very quickly shows how a player's tactics changed over the course of the game. Any thoughts on adding an equivalent for skill advancement? Here's one possible way to show it: Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 1...

I just found berder's Guide to Safe Crawling and it really helped me! I have always found the early game to be brutally difficult, almost always dying before lair (out of 100's of games, I've made it to lair <20 times, 3 of which were wins). This time I am having a much better time, though that may ...

Yeah, after finishing the last hell, I dropped my rC+ chain mail, picked up my pearl dragon armor, and forgot to actually put it on. I ran into almost no resistance on my ascension so I didn't notice until I saw the morgue file.

Yay, I did it! I ninja'd all of the Hell and Pan runes except for Antaeus and Asmodeus. Boy that took a long time. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15.2 (tiles) character file. 7886563 Cenhunt the Conqueror (level 27, 270/270 (273) HPs) Began as a Centaur Hunter on Jan 10, 2015. Was the Champion o...

It worked! CBlink, heal, tele kicked in.

I'm in another pickle. I have 21 health left, red poisoning, Tele, and Gloorx Vloq is close by. My inclination is to controlled blink to the cursor position, then heal wounds and hope the Teleport kicks in. Or is there a better strategy? I really need to stop getting myself in these stupid situation...

How bad of a set of mutations do you need to have before you're willing to drink a potion of cure mutations? For example, right now I have four potions of cure mutation and one bad mutation, teleportitis 1. (I have Hell and Pan to go.) In this case, I feel like it's a clear "drink". In oth...

I got out alive! A slime hit me on the same round I read the fog, but luckily it didn't kill me. After that, the one scroll's fog was thick enough that I could haste run to the stairs without using anything else. I'm going to give up on TRJ now. My only hope is to get Evocations high enough to polym...

Frankly, I forgot about Haste. Thanks for reminding me. I only have those 6 potions - no book or wand the whole game. Also there have been no sources of rCorr or SustAb (for Tomb). I believe that the next acid splash that hits me (which has been every turn the last few turns) will kill me. So, if I ...

Well, I'm all but dead. I attempted to kill TRJ for the 5th time or so, this time with Torment + wands of fireball. I made (at least) two stupid mistakes: 1. Not doing this near a stairwell. 2. Not running faster once I saw that it was going downhill. I tried several times to semi-controlled blink o...

I'm currently in the position of considering an Oka → TSO switch on a CeHu. I have only won twice (3-rune with MiBe, 15-run with SpEn) and would like to try for another 15 rune win. I cleared most of Zot:5 and am hesitating to do crypt since I don't want to waste potential TSO piety. Even with 0.15,...

Still plugging away. (I'm super slow.) I just got my third rune so I'll clear Zot next. I'm debating whether to stick with my Amulet of Faith for Heroism & Finesse or to take it off now so I can have rMut for Zot. Afterwards, I'm considering switching to TSO so I can go for more runes. We'll see...

Thanks for the advice! I cleared through Vaults:4 and am going for Elf next. Shoals will be a problem after that; my only options are to buy a ring of flight (280 gold) or book of the Dragon (1260 gold). I found an acquirement scroll but am not sure how to use it. Armour I guess. (I have an rMut Amu...

This is my first experience with hunters, so I am not sure what I'm doing. I followed Agentchuck's CeHu guide and trained unarmed, hoping to get Blade Hands online sometime, but maybe that was a mistake. Any advice would be appreciated, but specifically: ⋅ Should I continue trying to go f...

Tomb was easy - Necromutation took care of most curses, and Shatter took care of groups. I also skipped the "welcome party" of Tomb:2, and stair danced Tomb:3 with Shatter. I don't know how I would have done it without Necromutation though. As for the skills, I didn't feel the need any mor...

And that's that! Pan was challenging since I knew I had one chance for each rune, but it wasn't very difficult with apportation. If the Pan lord was guarding it, just make some noise, have him wander away, and grab the rune while he isn't looking. I took out Mnoleg since he was easy and avoided the ...

By the way, I used the term "histogram" incorrectly; I really meant a bar chart showing the noise level for each of the last few turns. My concern with showing only the last turn is that it is easy to take several turns quickly and miss an important loud noise.

I still try to stab when I can, but whenever something wakes up, or if I know I'm going up against a high-MR enemy, I go straight for Iron Shot. It's much easier than trying to get it to petrify.

Another update. Finished Vaults, Crypt, Abyss, and Slime, so now I'm on to the hard runes. Pan doesn't seem so bad, but I hesitate since I only have once chance to get each rune. I've heard the Hells are hard, and I'm afraid of Tomb due to everyone else's warnings. So far I've only stuck with Earth ...

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