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If you get monstrous Ds then learn Song of Slaying and put it to use instead of bitching.

I guess they'll nerf Cheibriados now since Mummies can't haste themselves.

Or: how to make a moderately useful item for everyone almost useless.

Having no dodging at all really inflates the value of EV rings and resistances. Tier I so far: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20-a0-315-g8346a86 (webtiles) character file. kuniqs the Fighter (Gargoyle Fighter) Turns: 18035, Time: 00:56:53 Health: 91/94 AC: 38 Str: 25 XL: 14 Next: 53% Magic: 21/2...

Lately there is some rage-virus of shitty aptitude races and race proposals. Is the world insane, or I?

I mean, does every one of you like playing shitty Demigods, but with a god? (hi duvessa)

If not going for heavy armour, don't train Armour more than 11. The same applies if you plan on wearing robes, have low Str, or have auxiliary armour slot restrictions. Training more than 22 Armour is almost never worth it - better train Dodging now.

Time to learn Confusing Touch.

But do we even need that? Vampires could just be undead that get bad mutations (berserkitis, blurry eyes, slowness, screaming...) if they don't kill (living?) things. Ghouls are a thing already. Remove the food clock. Remove blood potions creation, keep blood potions as a rare item you find on the ...

For people bored with normal game there's the Casual League Week and Dungeon Sprint, and barely anyone plays both.

TBH I think Unreal Tournament mutators would be cool in Crawl.

Back to the Future!

You don't need torment immunity for Tomb, you can always worship Makhleb, batform is intended for escapes not combat.

IMO Vampires should have less blood states, 3 should be enough.

Oh noes crawl is getting dumbed down again

The only reason both holy brand and TSO exist is because holy things doing extra damage to undead and demons is an RPG archetype.

Either put demons in 3rune games or change extended so it's not 99% holy-susceptible creatures all the time.

gfgf45550 wrote:
Hellmonk wrote:Remove the ability to holy brand launchers with tso instead. This would make it consistent with kiku and lugonu branding.

You're genius.

http://mu.ranter.net/design-theory/bala ... ng-is-good

Winning instead of going extended is a no-brainer already. Therefore, not using holy brand is a no-brainer.

See, you can 'no-brain' anything.

There's already a pain-branded ranged weapon. It's called "Bolt of Draining". It's even penertation-branded, too.

9d(power/4), however there is some special stepdown bullshit so whatever. Damage is almost the same as LCS at the same power. In practice, specialized blaster mages will have at most 100 power with high Int and enchancers, other mages can count for ~50 power. At close range LCS is better. However OO...

Snail Knights sound like a draconian monster in zot.

So basically just make curses an another kind of mutation, with exactly the same problems mutations have (It's best to not mutate yourself, even with !oBenefical, because you can get horns with those)

FR: give werewolf species berserkitits.

*Conventional wisdom is that base accuracy doesn't matter, right? I've noticed I missed so much with a GC/GSC that I just threw it away and went with eveningstar. Much better, considering you can at least wear a shield to help your horrible defences and they at least come in randart form sometimes....

Considering how badly Ogre needs defences (even more than Troll), I very rarely used GSC because I actually wanted to use a shield, too.

The optimal build was to go Dithmenos and abuse mimic throwing.

I agree with -1 in spells, because having -3 everywhere along with poor Int made it veeery hard to play a pure spellcaster Ogre.

Why -1 in Maces & Clubs, though? Did 0 or +1 put duvessa into a nervous breakdown again or something?

Or make werewolfitis (rabies?) a bad mutation

Just make curses not affect this species and insta-ID instead of giving it an ID/RC ability.

Please let non-Kiku necromancers have some fun.

The easiest way for you would be to train more Fighting, Dodging and either mindelaying a 2h sword or training Shields to 10-15 and getting a branded shield and a demon blade.

Learn Irradiate if you can - the malmutate debuff is great, and damage is excellent.

It's optimal to 'carry around' a harmless monster around you, just in case you walk upon a centaur, so you can boost yourself immediately for a potentially life-saving +8 ac.

Don't die & good luck lol

Better to remove books altogether and replace them with libraries for example, which allow you to learn spells but can't be carried around.

God of Casting Every 9th lvl Spell for 3mp and 0% Fail Chance and Max Power at Max Piety

All tiers: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20-a0-222-gb69ddcd (webtiles) character file. 4119115 kuniqs the Archmage (level 27, 169/169 HPs) Began as a Spriggan Conjurer on Nov 29, 2016. Was the Champion of Ashenzari. Escaped with the Orb ... and 7 runes on Dec 4, 2016! The game lasted 12:35:28 (...

^ Summoning is tedious, unreliable and the summoning cap makes summons terrible against mobs

dazzling spray got nerfed to 2d9 damage at max spellpower recently (by which I mean since may) if you don't know the format of the commit differences the formula was changed from 2d(4+pow/8) to 2d(3+pow/8) edit: okay I actually read through the dice code, dazzling spray never did 2d20 damage at max...

Some corrections: Spellcasting really doesn't "count as double towards spell power" spellcasting has the exact same contribution, it is just that conjuration and hexes each have half the contribution. I get what you mean, but phrasing it that way is slightly misleading. Thanks, I tested i...

To OP: Conjurer with Battlesphere and Magic Dart is as close to 'tabbing' as you can get with a mage. Maybe that's what you're looking for?

EDIT: DISREGARD THAT, LEARNDB SUCKS COCKS Here's why: 1) 1 mp cost less. 2) MUCH less noise. 3) Gains spellpower approximately half as fast. 4) Maxes out damage much faster. 5) At max damage deals almost as much damage as IMB (2d20 /it's 2d9 now/ vs 2d23). 6) Doesn't require point-blank to hit multi...

duvessa wrote:if you die a lot the game already gets easier because dying a lot makes ghosts that give you free xp

I experience the opposite.

+8 fire dragon scales
buckler {AC+3}
+5 ring of protection (curse)

I call cheetah.

(Nice armour btw)

Give monstrous Ds 1 3lvl body slot and 2lvl slots in others.

Also: - adjust draconian aptitudes so you can guess what colour you'll end up with. - stop generating fans, books etc. once you already have a specific one. - don't generate player ghosts if you have dispel undead memorized and under 50% fail rate - generate monsters with weaker stats once the game ...

Potion of Ambrosia was design to combine two shitty items (!oConfusion, Ambrosia) into something sometimes-useful. Merging !oMight with !oCureMut solves a problem that is nonexistent. IMO just remove bad mutations and make the rest a mixed blessing (like it was done with amulets) instead of always-g...

Just pray you won't get a random teleportisis mutation or too much contamination or lethal poisoning. I highly recommend going for lichform if you find it, otherwise you're just tempting fate.

If you have access neither to Lightning Spire nor any other summoning, you can always use a slime creature as a shield.

The only change I support is flattening Ogre's spell and weapon aptitudes. I don't mind Trolls being a no-brainer. No-brainers can be fun, too.

Make eudemon blades, trishulas and scourges slightly better while making them brandless and non-brandable.

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If you find an orc with disto weapon or Louise, leave them alone so they can helpfuly banish you later.

Nah, better to just invoke Xom wrath every time player goes up/down stairs with anything adjacent.

Aquadorian wrote:I'm assuming that fewer than 2 spell schools is ok at this point i.e. 2 is a maximum, not a minimum as well.

Yep

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