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Personally I'd start by turning off Fighting for now (needs a bit more UC and Evocation), then I'd spam the Dungeon decks in the hope of getting something useful in combat. Be careful though, if you do this without a wand of disintegration you might end up in trouble if a Statue is created.

Oh yeah, I do have one problem: not a single source of Haste in this game beyond a few potions of Speed. I was thinking that I could try my luck in the Slime loot vault.
Any advice on how to tackle this branch (or on what to do instead)?

I once got stuck between two freed slaves in a corridor. They killed me...

If you want more concrete numbers, a total of +20 dmg from slaying bonus/weapon enchantments would have been the point where I'd recommend you just melee things yourself with a quick blade. have you actually played a quick blade character Admittedly, not with low slaying and lack of pain/disto bran...

Wow, that's some serious bad luck streak.

I bought both of those rings, and I certainly don't regret it. the cTele ring saved my bacon when I stumbled upon an Ancient Lich which proceeded to reduce me to almost no HPs with a couple of Iron Bolts. I managed to hide in a small room but I had no way out, so I used a ?tele with the ring to land...

I forgot to mention, I do plan on going into the extended game and finding 15 runes with no spells. I know I should leave Crypt until after I've made the switch, but I don't know if I should leave the last dungeon floors, Zot: etc. I just don't know how much I should leave for after the switch so I...

OK, thanks. Although i don't understand this comment: Now then, looking at your dump the slaying ring may not be of much use to you unless you invest in a long blades and get some awesome 2h big sword. Isn't slaying especially useful on fast weapons like a Quickblade? Which is almost my only way to ...

I wonder why nobody mentioned felid: they have nice evo apt, they don't need a lot of permafood and can't use 95% of generated items, which can lead to an hilarious amount of decks even in early game. Not being able to use the non-consumable items found on the floor doesn't mean much, since every c...

There was a few things that I wanted to buy (notably a couple books for spells like cBlink) but I ended up finding most of it in a D:26 vault. So there's this glowing Steam Dragon Armour at 1k and pretty much nothing else, now that I think about it. It would mostly be for a Zig, or finding another s...

There's a rF+ robe. That's it.
Do you have any advice on the jewelry purcahses?

I'm not seeing the .12 version available for download. Is this normal?

So I found this: "the +9 pearl Dragon armour of Eternal Vigilance {rC+, rN+}". In a shop. At over 18k golds. Yeah ... And since it's in a bazaar, there's no way I'll ever be able to get it even if I could afford it one day. Other things I might want to have (and that I can actually afford)...

That's what it says in the other thread. Apparently it has to do with their size, so now it's possible to see larger zombies earlier.

In my experience Necromutation has been useful in Hell to deal with getting Rotted so many times I ended up running out of Curing potions, not Torment. I agree that Torment is less of an issue in Hell, so if that's why you're taking Necromutation it's more important in Pandemonium.

1) I am concerned with hunger issue for Spriggan because some Nemelex abilities cost up to 400 saturation points and Famine card really scares me. Those abilities aren't spammed, they are for emergencies or precious decks only. The one ability you'll be using a lot is Draw One which has no Hunger c...

Abominae wrote: And well, Necromutation is worse in Hell than it is Pan.

What makes Hell a worse place than Pan to use Necromutation? The chance of getting spontaneously confused?

I burned 3 ?acquirement, which got me : +2 Gloves {Int -4} +2 Gloves {+Rage} (not terribly useful to a bloodless Vp as far as I can tell) -1 Cloak {Int+2} So ... yeah. Int+2 is better than MR when you already have multiple sources of it, I guess, and my cloak was already -1. +2 Gloves without useful...

Thanks!

I don't really normally recommend getting the Necronomicon from Kiku as anything, let alone something that can only cast 25% of the spells in it. Yes, haunt is good, but pain is also extremely good and you have Kiku corpses for allies. Some people do prefer just casting excruciating wounds a lot, b...

It gives you haunt. Haunt can more or less win you the game. So yeah. Usually a pain-branded weapon is a better choice, but the Necronomicon can be a significant asset.

How appropriate.

I see. Thanks for clarifying.

That wasn't very helpful ... I know this is a very generic character that most forumites must be bored with, but it's my first time getting a Vampire to the Vaults, or a Kiku-ite in the deep Dungeon. And if I can win with that guy, I'll improve my Streak record to 3! Right now my main problems are a...

He is a Jester, he "found" Nemelex before entering the Dungeon.

When you have Blade hands, I don't think you should bother to raise Staves for that weapon. Mostly you should just keep training UC in Lair, where Ice Form and Blade Hands should make almost everything trivial.
And don't forget Invocation, if you worship Makhleb.

I don't remember if the first time I got mangled by an orange rat was in that minivault or a sewer, but it was an humbling experience. Don't take a monster for granted just because of it's glyph, check what it can do if you don't know.

5) I suppose Nemelex isn't a horribly god to play with for Ogre's but it was mostly due to the -2 Modifier in Evocations versus the 0 Modifier in Invocations and the fact that Ogre's need a reliably escape option or panic button to fall back on - not one that may potentially fail to work since it i...

Yet another generic character. This is the last of the old .10 character I'd like to finish before moving on to the latest release. I found a dagger of pain lying on the ground, so I asked Kiku for a Necronomicon and learned Haunt. I've been raising Summoning for a while now, in order to be able to ...

I just had a rather similar win , so I'm going to share my experience. I used very little Summoning in the beginning. I used other skills to handle most basic "popcorn" and mid-level monsters, using summons to buy time and retreat whenever I was in a tight spot. When faced with somethin I ...

And this one is done too. I gave up on the last two runes because blarg. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.4 character file. 5191796 Tepeth the Demonologist (level 27, 221/221 (231) HPs) Began as a Mummy Wizard on May 22, 2012. Was the Champion of Sif Muna. Escaped with the Orb ... and 13 runes ...

And I've won. The ascension was rather uneventful. A couple Pan lords appeared, but the only one who wasn't easily ignorable (that is to say I was already almost at the stairs) died even fast than the X next to him. He did summon a couple of Hydras, but those don't run faster than a Swift demonspawn...

There's no getting a LoS on outside the corridor leading to the rune without seeing lots of enemies, so I'm not sure how that would work. I ended up stair dancing the big majority of opponents. Then when a couple of Greater Mumies showed up and refused to get closer to the stairs, instead spamming s...

Tartarus was surpisingly difficult. Mostly because of a floor where all entrances lead to the same room full of high level monsters and witha Silent Spectre outisde the walls making spellcasting impossible. If I had been a conjurer rather than a summoner this could have made getting the Bone rune pr...

OK, I'm sorry. Let me rephrase that : how can i use that?

Speaking of noise, I learned Projected Noise before leaving for Tomb.

Can I use that?

So I tried Dispel Undead, and it's about as powerful as BoF. It deals less damage on a hit from what I've seen, but it is more reliable. So both kill about as fast. DU costs less, but isn't a bolt so it has its advantages and disadvantages. Fire Storm deals way more damage than either, of course. Ev...

Summon Dragons and Horrible Things are pure Summon and rather high level for someone who never trained this skill.

I have Necro 27 and pretty much all the books in the game (several times over, thanks Sif) so I might just learn Dispel Undead for this. I'm probably going to try Tomb tomorrow, and then I'll be all set up to ascend with 15 runes. I did the "tab everything" thing all the way through Dis:7....

I tried to see what I could do with my melee. Turns out the answer is "clean out all of Dis using only 'o', 'tab' and '>'. And '5' occasionally, I guess. Iron Dragon? Tab. Pit Fiend? Tab. Pit Fiend with a group of hell hounds? Tab. Ice Fiend with Reaper and Blizzard Demon and several Iron Drago...

Got the Bone Rune, it was laughably easy. rN+++ DS mutation didn't hurt, hehe. Only the Dis and Tomb runes left now. I'm thinking of replacing Bolt of Cold by IOoD for Dis. Still a bit afraid of the mummies, the Zig floors with those were brutal and even with Dragon spam I almost got killed wlast ti...

OK, Abyssal rune done. It wasn't too bad, but I had to ignore a couple of exits to find it. There's very little that would count as actually threatening in there. A Balrug, a couple Green Deaths, and a Lich. Oh, and a Profane Servitor. It is supposedly "extremely dangerous" but since it ha...

I found this at the bottom of Cocytos: t - the +7 swamp dragon armour of the Vaults {+Blink +Lev rPois SInv Stlth+} It barely increases the spell failure of spells other than Fire Storm and increases my AC by 10 points. It could probably be even better once I get some armour skill. Would that be wor...

Since I already had all the Pandemonium runes and had alredy seen Holy Pan and Helion Island I decided to get the Hell runes. I started by Gehenna because it felt like home to my fiery demonspawn (and I had rF+++ ... fat load of good it does me when I am pelted with Hellfire). To my surprise the spe...

Oh, I get it now. XL1 and 0% to the next level, so no XP at all. Draining weapon hit and despite not doing any damage it still drained.
Makes sense now.

Reminds me the time when the first goblin I saw had a dagger of Distortion and one-shotted me.

Dead in a single hit from full health by a goblin???
"You are drained from all life?"

What's happening here?

One Hell Rune down, 3 to go. I realized I didn't have cBlink halfway through Cocytus. So I went back out and then noticed that I nearly didn't have it in all the spells Sif gifted me. Still, once is enough, so I'm now raising Tloc enough to use it reliably. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.4 ch...

Dammit. Bloody Orc Priest combos. And damn Vampiric draining giving so few HPs back. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.4 character file. 1397 Lochak the Basher (level 8, 0/67 HPs) Began as an Ogre Necromancer on Apr 7, 2013. Was a Follower of Ashenzari. Killed by divine providence ... invoked by...

Why don't you use identify scrolls for your potions? Because I normally need them for the jewelry. On the other hand, Ash makes this considerably less important so I should get to identifying potions now. Thanks for the tip. I usually take maces to 18 natural before getting dodging/fighting/other l...

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