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I'm working on an in depth NaMo of Cheibriados guide. Eventually I'll post it in the wiki, but I wanted to get feedback/tweak it here first. Anything that is unclear, could be improved, or seems to be missing, please let me know. It is long because it's intended to be comphrensive :) If I'm totally ...

"via direct combat spells or ranged abilities from wands/rods" Still doesn't sound like slouch to me but I guess I'm just being a rules lawyer now ;) I already voted for missile weapons (stones) because I've done that a couple of times, although it's not my first choice when I have wands ...

What exactly changed with slaying? I heard something about it being base damage in .9 and now it's a bonus damage? I'm not sure exactly how that works though - how good is slaying in .10? Should I use it over other options?

Really the vampiric not working on crypt is about the only problem you'll face. You need food since there's very few corpses, otherwise it's pretty easy. Vaults 1-7 should also be easy for you, but 8 is much more difficult. Stay away from the Tomb, which is inside of the crypt, however; that is a mu...

I cannot vote in this because the choice of Use a wand or Use Naga Spit poison does not exist. I will also use Slouch if there are a significant amount of other mobs. Both wands/god abilties are not listed. If I am desperate or have resist corrosion I will punch them, but you can't really do that wi...

ghosts don't use any items, although I think they can retain equipment. I'm not sure if it remembers the exact equipment or just basic stuff like {had shield} etc. About the only changes are that you become undead (resist cold/poison) and if you're a level 7+ draconian then they get a bolt of draini...

wished the antimagic ring was more effective :) Rings of Protection from Magic only protect against "enchantments", ie spells that either work or don't, like slow, confuse, etc. They won't protect you against fire damage, ice damage, or smiting. Priests love to smite ;) Understanding the ...

Those kinds of entrances are why I am terrible with casters and generally don't play them. I'm just now starting to do hybrids who go melee first then learn some utility spells later ;) I agree with the above advice I just think you don't need to worry too much about ring of flames giving you rC-. I...

Just some general advice about playing melee characters: You only need the following skills: Fighting, <insert weapon skill of your choice>, armor. People have won with that kind of extreme focus. I would however recommend also branching out a bit into traps and doors (around 10), invocations if you...

Slowness three is great! I just won with it recently too...running away is overrated. I actually had a pretty terrible mutation set on this naga, because I never found rMut once during a 5 rune game. Oh, and I got the abyss rune too (I was involuntarily banished there). Full morgue: http://crawl.dev...

I once on the same heavily mutated naga had fire breath and the normal spit poison, after previously having had poison breath...they aren't really that strong but they just feel so powerful. Great for clearing lots of little mobs at least :) Now if you could mutate the holy breath that pearl dragons...

So it seems like from that response that even though it takes me roughly 3 turns to take one step, as far as scoring is concerned, I am only performing one action and so it records one step for it? In other words, my score will be higher since it uses a much lower value for most actions (only attack...

Man, look at that barding ;) Boshole, lol. I know, right? :D I could actually regenerate health faster than they could deal it. Was this not the case for you? I had two rings of regeneration, and could cast the regen spell - you are absolutely correct and it's why I'm kicking myself so much ;)

I haven't cast tornado, so I can't say much about that, but I do worship chei quite often, so I can tell you plenty about her. You'll want to turn on show game turns so you can see how long your steps take - on my nagas at full piety it is 2.8 turns per step, but demonspawns should be around 2.4 or ...

as far as needing a flaming weapon goes, the brand is really just a nice extra. It's not required to kill frost giants, and as cerebovssquire noted, they aren't vulnerable to fire anyways. I play mostly monks lately, who never get any brand on their attacks unless they're also transmuters, and I don...

screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/Q8sFA.jpg 2 Errors: One, I have higher current health than my max health. I'm not actually sure which one was correct, I think the lower one was (the 227 showed in the rot area). I don't know if it would have actually taken 230 damage to kill me or 227, but since the c...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-32-gfa280cc character file. 1015659 Tasonir the Wrestler (level 27, -17/228 HPs) Began as a Naga Monk on Mar 12, 2012. Was a High Priest of Cheibriados. Killed by a reflected bolt (39 damage) ... in level 13 of a ziggurat on Mar 15, 2012. The game lasted 19:4...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-32-gfa280cc character file. Tasonir the Sensei (Naga Monk) Turns: 97842, Time: 14:18:11 HP 238/238 AC 47 Str 38 XL: 27 MP 25/45 EV 21 Int 36 God: Cheibriados [******] Gold 5916 SH 48 Dex 32 Spells: 16 memorised, 2 levels left Res.Fire : + + + See Invis. : + -...

I know you are supposed to specialize You aren't. To put a bit more detail into this, I think the confusion is that you should specialize early on, ie, right when you start a character you probably only want to be training one or two skills to get them to an appropriate level quickly. Then you trai...

Possibly they were thinking of tomb? rN+++ is huge there assuming you aren't immune to torment in some other way (kiku, undead)...

I absolutely love rings of regeneration and I fondly recall a ghoul who had found two of them early game...really makes up for their slow healing. Sadly he is no longer with us, but I definitely love having one on all of my characters

Grats again on the win!

what do you mean using a -6 cloak that violates your god's ethics isn't considered standard play?

I really needed the rF+ and had no enchant armor scrolls left for a fire dragon armor...

Instead of training some less useful skills (like dodging in plate, or traps&doors above 12, or unarmed above 1) you could have invested in some utility spells. higher spells won't work well in plate, but the added utility is often worth it. Dodging in plate is awesome imho. I've had 26 EV on a...

Nice regen/rElec ring

Seems like you had a lot of room for growth since you had branched out into magic, your combat skills still had a lot of space to go up. Should have thrown on TSO/Zin and gone for more runes! But congrats on the win nevertheless!

Naga Monk of Chei. If you're looking for an answer to the original question, ie, a monk who stays primarily fists but without some of the added restrictions like no wands other people were talking about, then that's pretty much how I play. I don't consider it super high to have an invocations of 13,...

morgue link: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.10/Tasonir/morgue-Tasonir-20120310-013421.txt Morgue in post, kills removed: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-32-gfa280cc character file. 2820444 Tasonir the Grand Master (level 27, 246/246 HPs) Began as a Naga Monk on Mar 7, 2012. Was the Champi...

Generally speaking, species is a much smaller contributor to success than background. Backgrounds range from wildly overpowered to chaos knight, while species tend to range from vanilla to quirky. If you pick a power background suitable for your species and learn the quirks of your species' gamepla...

thanks for finding the thread for me, sorry about creating the new one. Anyways, there were some critics, but I honestly think this is good. -3 ring mail {rF+ rC+ rN+ MR str+1} Sure it would need a better base type/enchantment to be the best, but I have a hard time saying 4 resists is not a notable ...

Yeah, I do realize that teleporting to narrow corridors is basically 2/3 chance of random teleports now - I'm not actually sure if I was aware that getting an invalid tile teleported you randomly beforehand, but I did realize that was the cause once it happened. Fear was basically a panic reaction, ...

In hells you're going to suffer a lot (slow speed means you need to fight more enemies, which means you need to rest more, which means more hell's effect...), but at least you can safely c-teleport to the exit anytime. - only last floor of each branch is -ctele. Figures that my stairway into Gehenn...

Thanks for all the feedback nago; crypt was really easy, I guess I overestimate because of all the warnings about the tomb, but the crypt really isn't much risk at all. It was pretty funny because I was training up necromancy most of the way through and by the time I got down to crypt 5 my "pur...

Some gear options for Slime: I have a +0 naga barding I could use, and let it get trashed, then switch back to the +4 afterwards. I have a dwarven large shield I could use instead of the +ac, and it's very resistant being dwarven. I have several additional pairs of gloves, 2 of which are +2, and one...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-14-ga75c42d character file. Tasonir the Sensei (Naga Monk) Turns: 66899, Time: 09:45:05 HP 219/219 AC 47 Str 32 XL: 25 Next: 58% MP 37/37 EV 32 Int 26 (28) God: Cheibriados [******] Gold 4979 SH 55 Dex 42 Spells: 6 memorised, 18 levels left Res.Fire : + + . S...

Having a ton of fun with naga monks of Chei. They are a bit slow for the first 5-6 floors, but once you're past that it ramps up rather quickly. By the time you hit lair you're already at an above average power level. Stick to light armor at lower levels (heavy armor is fine once you're higher level...

Just roll another naga, I've learned that characters who find amazing stuff early one are going to die painfully and shamefully, while ones who survive until the end find most of the time only crap :lol: And here she is! Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-14-ga75c42d character file. Tasonir th...

What do you mean I won't improve if I just blame the RNG? :P Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-14-ga75c42d character file. 198895 Tasonir the Executioner (level 18, -14/163 HPs) Began as a Deep Dwarf Berserker on Feb 28, 2012. Was a High Priest of Trog. Killed from afar by Boris (62 damage) .....

I wonder if bardings affect it. In any case, it wasn't too bad, I was still above average (attack speed 8 or 9 I think) with 20 UC and a splint mail/barding/large shield on the above character. Shields was roughly 15 and armor roughly 10. I just died on a character who lucked into a +2 fire dragon a...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-14-ga75c42d character file. 289949 Tasonir the Sensei (level 21, -13/170 HPs) Began as a Naga Monk on Feb 25, 2012. Was a High Priest of Cheibriados. Shot with an arrow by a deep elf master archer (14 damage) ... on Level 5 of the Elven Halls on Feb 27, 2012....

Alright, I'm edited and good to go, add me tcjsavannah

And anyone else who wants to arrange .10 tournament teams here, go for it. I've got one 3 rune victory so far (not in the tournament) and am playing a naga monk of chei

who's level 20 (in the tournament, webtiles) right now...anyone have a team that still has some space?

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-14-ga75c42d character file. Tasonir the Sensei (Naga Monk) Turns: 40702, Time: 05:56:42 HP 163/163 AC 34 Str 34 XL: 20 Next: 33% MP 32/32 EV 15 Int 24 God: Cheibriados [*****.] Gold 51 SH 48 Dex 33 Spells: 0 memorised, 19 levels left Res.Fire : + + . See Invi...

Creatures will attack where they think you might be. If you take a bent route to them, they'll often fire where you were instead of where you are. Since you're not casting any spells, you'd be better off wearing plate armor over chainmail. I personally don't like equipping +0 plate armor on a naga,...

Despite some good luck in other areas, I've had terrible luck with enchantments on my armor, having found a total of 3 enchant armors so far. One I used to make troll leather armor (which is now at -1) and the last two I did dump into the barding. I'd had about 5-7 items get corroded, including the ...

I did end up going with the invis potion route because I was also fortunate enough to find an amulet of resist corrosion, so it wasn't too bad. 4 plants in all, killed the single plant on the right first, and after killing two on the left side, going invis didn't seem to stop the last left-side plan...

And if I can get some more specific situtational advice, I'm not really sure how to finish the lair. There are Oklob plants which are actually mandantory - they are blocking a room which contains all 3 down stairs on Lair 6. I want the Lair 8 items, and exp...I mean I suppose I could do snake/shoals...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-14-ga75c42d character file. Tasonir the Black Belt (Naga Monk) Turns: 17424, Time: 02:14:49 HP 97/117 AC 15 Str 28 XL: 14 Next: 5% MP 36/36 EV 21 Int 22 God: Cheibriados [*****.] Gold 536 SH 0 Dex 29 Spells: 0 memorised, 13 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See In...

Are you really going to let a little thing like level 1 banishment keep you from the orb?

As a reminder, the orb is very, very shiny.

he already has the staff of energy, so he just needs fire/conjuration and he'd be fine. No hunger issues. Although I don't really think that a level 9 spell is too practical for 3 rune runs, but my mages all die around level 15 so I could be wrong

As a newer player I think I overestimated how hard the vault is. It's not really easy, but basically think of it as just another side by side dungeon with the main dungeon. So if you cleared main dungeon to 20, and vaults was at 14, you can do vaults up to 6 just as easily. Vaults 8 is definitely a ...

I think scythe is pretty clearly a 'style' weapon...it's pretty much just there for Sigmund. 14 damage vs 18 damage on a bardiche for the same speed? Bit lower accuracy, but still the bardiche is much better. Demon tridents are a good option if you have to have the shield, of course, but I think I'l...

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