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All hail dynast, first 10-pointer of week 2

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I find it quite odd to hear Sif touted as a strong god. A bit boring sure. But you get no power spike. Like, if I pick yred, I'm guaranteed a bunch of undead minions to help in tough situations. If I pick Kiku, again I'll have some useful utility. If I pick the closest god to sif, oka, I'm guarante...

Pillar dancing on an unexplored level? Pretty much a roll of the dice. Kind of like the roll that the sorcerer chooses to paralyze you and it bypasses your MR and it manages to kill you before you can get up the stairs and either kill the squishy thing or tele away to safety.

lol. It's been a while, but I know 3-4 rations usually worked for me

Maybe you got really unlucky

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I had it almost kill my NaWz for csdc (I think it was that game at least). Ice cave announcement, I see an ice themed vault, run toward the 'entrance', and suddenly find my self in range of an ice dragon and an ice statue, with the dragon a square inside my LOS. Being a naga, retreat was difficult.....

Centaurs are insta-mephitic. Very vulnerable, and stops their threat entirely.

I always got wonders by sacrificing permafood; 3 bread rations is way more valuable that a bunch of junk scrolls.

OK. Wizard is one of the more challenging backgrounds because there isn't a single best road. You really need to be able to roll with what the dungeon throws at you, which means being good at judging what power you'll get out of (say) training that elec whip up vs training summon lightning spire to ...

The orcish mines is noisier than the lair (which is a lot noisier than the dungeon) which makes it easier to go unnoticed; did you account for that? This is true, but that only affects noise propagation, not chance of them spotting you per action in their sight. Edit: Just for reference, since I'm ...

I think invocations works (game mechanically) really well with certain gods. Qazlal has a very natural relationship with invo. Mahkleb is rather good. Lugonu works. Zin works. Fedhas works somewhat. But for most gods it kind of half works. For instance, Yred: drain life has mechanically good invo sc...

I find it quite odd to hear Sif touted as a strong god. A bit boring sure. But you get no power spike. Like, if I pick yred, I'm guaranteed a bunch of undead minions to help in tough situations. If I pick Kiku, again I'll have some useful utility. If I pick the closest god to sif, oka, I'm guarantee...

IT's a flavor justification for the abyss inevitably diverging over time

Done. I also found out it was saintroka, so he's added as well.

13372/1232751 games for * (recent playable): 484/88727x Octopode [0.55%], 476/76384x Deep Elf [0.62%], 326/49240x High Elf [0.66%], 923/136129x Demonspawn [0.68%], 455/59359x Draconian [0.77%], 384/47559x Spriggan [0.81%], 270/31574x Tengu [0.86%], 370/41115x Mummy [0.90%], 341/36034x Human [0.95%]...

Assuming you're not playing ogre or troll (which are their own challenges) you can have reasonably effective stealth by raising it to 5, which is pretty easy for most low-ac combos to squeeze in pre-lair. Think of it as an extra defensive skill; it really is. Just throw rocks at what you want to wak...

1. Play trunk.
2. Never die to shadow traps again.
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3. Profit???

It's the rng compensating for the evilness of the GM.

Eyesburn wrote:edit: oh never mind, just saw that sign ups are closed :S Rokalina will miss this one

I don't mind adding you, but I don't see any games currently for rokalina; Are you sure that's the account?

Oh, OK. I'm not great at reading these. I don't think random monsters will generally be nerfed more than players. Yeah, Orc priests will be easier, but you don't have access to scrolls and god powers. Like, you can't even trog berserk when silenced.

They have decent damage and a lot of HP for that point too... Maybe make a 'flickering silent spectre' like the decaying bog bodies, etc.? Easier to kill, less xp.

I like a lot of these. The dith silence one particularly sounds interesting and spooky.

Hydra next to the stairs into lair can be. And that's the only situation in which either the sorcer o er or the hydra can really be dangerous. Either you have a decent amount of stealth or enough AC to shrug off one paralysis. I've never come down the stairs in orc with a stone giant in sight (let a...

orc:1 has stone giants and orc sorcerers lair:1-8 don't have stone giants or orc sorcerers the chance of a stair orc sorcerer is really much worse than anything lair can throw at you same situation with D Instead Lair 1 has ice dragons, hydras and anacondas. If we're discussing extreme OoD spawns w...

I'm not saying I shouldn't enter Lair till I can handle mambas without consumables. But I'm unlikely to go in without teleport at least so I can disengage... Mambas are scarier than equal threat non-fast monsters. Also rare. I don't hold off on lair till I can kill hydras either... you can pretty mu...

Elliptic could do this with any of the gods, I have no doubt. If that's what you mean by potentially doable. Qazlal does ramp up in power fairly quickly, but he also ramps up the threat environment a lot. On the other hand, Qaz allows you to take most fights at the stairs, which is a fairly optimal ...

For me, the difference is I never need to use consumables to escape all those D and orc threats, barring terrible autoexplore. I just walk away. Mambas force me to burn consumables now, and often fight them in suboptimal circumstances (say, a herd of yaks closing in fast that I would ordinarily brea...

Vehumet is OK on GrEE. The extra range is nice on earth spells.

While I like the idea because it makes sense, from a gameplay perspective it actually makes things even more imbalanced. It gives small races, who are usually quite easy, more and better options, while doing the reverse to large races, who are usually quite hard. The goal of crawl is not to have al...

For some characters, Orc is often easier than the upper Lair levels anyways, let alone Lair:8. What kind of characters did you have where Orc is less dangerous than Lair:8? I never remember to have such a character. (Except when Lair:8 spawns Rupert.) Any poison-dependent character for sure. VMs sh...

I'd think a slings + Tm kobold is the best way to get tier 2... Just make sure you get UC to 10 before Slings. Note that your skill is rounded down for this, so technically you can have 10.9 in a skill. But tiebreakers for highest skill are set by which skill got there first so: - Unarmed Combat 10....

Yeah. My recommendation is gozag, but ymmv.

Please use this thread for discussion of all things pertaining to Week 2 of Crawl Sudden Death Challenges Season 4 . Week 2: KoTm (Kobold Transmuter) Tier I Bonus: Have UC highest skill when grabbing first rune Tier II Bonus: Have your highest skill be 10 or less when grabbing first rune Week 2 Gods...

Create an illusion of your character, but the gift replaces a piece of the gear on the illusion which drops when you beat it. You want to make one of the most threatenibg unique abilities in the game more powerful and then give it to a god who is supposed to be on your side? You're assuming oka is ...

Vaults is runelocked. He's going for lairless (or at least, rune before lair.)

I think if you go Veh, DEWz wouldn't be that weak.

Gozag boosts 1/4th of all shop items, but depending on shop type that can have notably different impacts. First, how shop items are usually generated: Shop items are ordinarily scaled based on the total depth the shop is placed at. For instance, a D:10 shop generally averages an item level of ~20, a...

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Agreed. If you get banished and are at all worried about surviving, there are only two skills you should consider training with the handful of popcorn XP you're bound to get in abyss: Evocations to make your ring of tele more reliable, and stealth to actually survive.

Well, OK, elliptic is a bit extreme. But I (pblur) only have a few wins. I'm not amazing or anything. And I still think the abyss is the easiest 3rd rune for most characters if you know how to handle it. The point really isn't that you get banished too much. You have about half the games I do, and a...

Well, running from sonja is easier said than done. Still, banishment isn't a death sentence; you seem to be doing something wrong in the abyss. Compare your abyss ratio to others: fiftyfootphallus has survived banishment 4 of 9 times: 44% pblur has survived banishment 16 of 19 times: 84% Piginabag h...

That sounds about right to me as well. Though you're bound to get a troll hide soon in depths if you survive.

Personally I'd keep using it till I found a useful rod, then drop it and never look back.

It's bad for new players imho. Generalists aren't easy to learn how to play.

That process is missing the 'read mummy wizard guide on wiki' step.

I did that one myself a decent amount

Yeah. I guess that's the problem. Still, I'd have thought a mummy wizard would have beaten it out...

Seriously. Even the ever-popular mummy wizard has a better winrate. [13:37] <Sequell> 1386/324100 games for * (--wz): 13/683x Deep Dwarf [1.90%], 17/1159x Vine Stalker [1.47%], 17/1165x Hill Orc [1.46%], 21/1522x Minotaur [1.38%], 18/1424x Ghoul [1.26%], 26/2098x Felid [1.24%], 3/264x Lava Orc [1.14...

Well, it's true... maybe I'm just lucky with troves.

Any logged server works. Sure, join us.

I guess I'll really accpet new entries through this week.

Code:: <Sequell> treasure trove[1/4]: For a price, you get some loot! Usually you get 16 items, some of which may be created using the acquirement code.

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