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I usually get 8 on Oka, but that's preference at that point.

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Most ants only move at the same speed as you, so backing up to the stairs when it gets dicey is viable too...

Note that we're now down to only removing inaccuracy, and all other amulet effects are either reworked or ringified. Good work guys!

Reworked rMut into a ring similar to infinitevox's suggestion, but kept the resistance rate as is, and made all blocked mutations be temporary. I think this pretty much solves the problems with mutation resistance.

Just to be clear, keep playing your games on trunk even as the transition to 0.17 goes on.

Great idea! I added that. I didn't really think amulet of ghoulhood would even be preferable to rage, but voraciousness is perfect as a straight combat buff for extended combats.

Random side-note: it's spelled chance, not chanche

Ahhh! I missed his point entirely. It's a fair point, but we do actually have somewhat meaningful differences due to aux attack mutations, and all the species differentiation.

Actually I think adozu is right... by changing the chance you get shafted each time you step on a shaft tile, you can make it have the same expected value whether you're walking on new squares or old ones. This is my point, not adozu's. No. given that if X(((1-X)Y)/(1-XY)) < XY it is still optimal ...

Actually I think adozu is right... by changing the chance you get shafted each time you step on a shaft tile, you can make it have the same expected value whether you're walking on new squares or old ones. It would still be optimal to run monsters over every square a bunch of times, but that's easil...

BugHunter wrote:It's a nerf for characters with reduced LOS, like nightstalker muts.

If you have nightstalker, you won't wake them up until it's too late for them to think about picking stuff up most of the time. (Unless you run CPA or something on your nightstalker DS or never train stealth on them.)

It doesn't really need the enchantment drop for that to be good.

Unswappable... From a design perspective, we don't need two mutually exclusive categories of rings. We have four categories of gloves. No we don't. We have one gloves slot, and you can wear any ego of glove in it. By contrast, I can't wear a jewelry of the gourmand in a ring slot. We have two categ...

In essence, fixing random traps effectively makes them Xom-lite in a sense; you (very rarely) have a negative effect happen to you which mechanically is not bound to any floor tile. Flavor-wise this can still be a trap/shaft/whatever of course. Traps can still actually be usefully applied in vaults ...

Thing is, the amulet of purity just doesn't have enough power level to be worth wearing. Clarity and stasis are both extremely strong occasionally, and otherwise stasis is a huge disadvantage. I can't think of a way to buff stasis (including adding it to clarity and tacking on MR) that would make it...

Your example is bad, because removing the amulet will freeze your current spell gift for a while. Which is super useful; Veh gets a lot of mileage from removing amulets of Faith. I also rarely feel frustrated about wearing Faith, because for most gods it's the best amulet choice anyhow. This would c...

Gargoyle's get level up points in strength.

Removed Stasis, and made it a ring instead, since it only really works swappably...

Warding is actually good where it is. Teleporting a summon away is effectively the same as abjuring it, and this way the amulet is useful in a much larger swath of the game.

Shadow form is a real benefit in a 3-rune game too. It's not all about torment, by a long shot.

I might drop Sif a tier. Otherwise it looks pretty good.

Why should the number of auts to swap change? IDC about which menu it goes in.

He could have spent long enough on the previous floor for the ogre to lose track of him and be wandering again when he came back down.

Damage shaving applies to AC piercing sources like poison, hellfire and elec.

I'm thinking about a lot of the concrete suggestions made in this thread, but figured I'd address a few common thoughts: Gourmand removal... Hunger is currently a very broken system in crawl. It's essentially a combination of two entirely separate resource mechanisms with a big dose of simulationism...

Sorry, but is the idea here "Remove rCorr and rMut with no corresponding changes to corrosion and malmut"? The logical end-point of that kind of design, imo, is a game where there aren't any resistances, since most of it is just "A single rarely relevant but nearly absolute resistanc...

I think it can show up on V:4 as well. In any event, this is a Dungeon Crawling Advice problem...

Added an alternative anti-swapping mechanism that dpeg suggested: make amulets simply be one-time use. Personally I don't care for it, because it removes a lot of granularity and design space. Faith is a really well-designed amulet now; you do want to remove it somehow, but it penalizes you an appro...

Never charge and bash Elf:3. The secret tech on elf 3 is digging a killhole. Then you don't spend time in LOS of anything.

Fact of the day... EV:
Spriggan > Hungry ghost > blink frog > black mamba = adder = water moccasin = death cob

Yup. Hungry ghosts have silly amounts of evasion. So do adders.

Swapped amulet of warding around again. Now essentially an amulet of disjunction (Lasty's idea)

Currently, Faith is clearly one of the best amulets in the game. It's both high-power and non-swappable, so you should have a meaningful choice as to whether to wear it. Except that the choice is not very meaningful, because it's power-level is so far above most other amulets. There was a discussion...

MR++ is manageable, but dangerous. You just really have to be cautious about letting A'Liches into your LOS.

Yeah. Even though most wiki guides are terrible, I think there's a place for a newbie guide which is drastically over-specific. There are so many things to explore that it's quite overwhelming. As a learning experience, running the same character with the same god a bunch of times lets you limit the...

I'd play pollen golem's god
It sounds super fun.

I'm also not a fan of wand acquirement. I don't think it's as good or reliable as a lot of people. Armour is an excellent acquirement a lot of the time, especially if I haven't seen an aux slot. Staff is good for non-casters. Book is good for non-casters. Weapon is good for getting rare base types.

That sounds about right, but if you want a series of test monsters, something like: Death yak, manticore, shadow dragon, orb guardian will probably give you adequate tests. Orc priest sounds fairly useless, since their damage is primarily mitigated by tactics, not actually how quickly your weapon ca...

OK, rather than a bunch of opinions I ran rough numbers on it, using a brimstone fiend as the target. A staff of air will do around 38 irresistable damage per 10 aut. The holy wrath lajatang will do around 48 damage after AC per 10 aut. I think the base staff damage from the staff is entirely neglec...

OK, pull request up for removing randomly generated rMut amulets. Fleshworks should still be able to specifically create one I think...

OoF are exactly the sort of mutators that are good; those that are not trivializable. Neqoxecs in many of the situations they occur are bad, because they're more of an interface tax than truly threatening. In others (the orcish mines for instance) they're pretty good... Mutations don't need eradicat...

Quite honestly, I prefer the acute annoyance of death cobs to the chronic annoyance of butchering and food management. It's actually a challenge instead of simple tedium.

Please use this thread for discussion of all things pertaining to Week 4 of Crawl Sudden Death Challenges Season 4 . Week 2: TrEn (Troll Enchanter) Tier I Bonus: Kill Geryon before entering any non-Abyss rune branch Tier II Bonus: Pick up a Pan or Hell rune as first rune. Week 2 Gods: Xom, Sif, Veh ...

I'd way rather be dumping my enchant scrolls on a bardiche, but that's not going to stop me from dumping them on the first good-branded glaive I find. But if I find an acquirement before I find a branded glaive, weapon is a good acquirement. I'm likely to get either a branded demon trident or a bran...

Believe me, we're preparing for it. Such good luck was not meant to survive.

I wear gourmand preferentially when I don't have any particularly compelling reason to wear another type. It makes the game more fun, even though it has 0 power impact on my character most of the time.

It sounds like something that should be killed with fire in the charms rework.

Have you tried PBD in trunk? It got changed significantly, as did demonic guardian. The latter no longer punished ranged attacks, and the former increases your per-turn healing after every kill and refreshes the per-turn healing duration. There's a hard limit of +10 hp/sec, but even a single kill c...

I don't really understand why this race should have the evocations boost... I think it would be fine if you dropped that. It just doesn't go well with anything else here.

Malmutate shouldn't be 50-50. It should be suboptimal. I don't really care if that's 70-30 or 90-10... that's really just tweaking the degree of badness.

And 50-50 would nerf Zin, since you'd be less likely to want to cure all muts. Not that Zin is underpowered.

Well, the goal wouldn't be extended; it would be lowering my chance of getting a spear, hopefully getting a glaive, demon trident or bardiche instead.

If you find a very early acquirement scroll and you haven't seen particular crappy varieties of your main weapon and you have a combo strong enough to reliably hand the next few floors, I might. Like if I'm using polearms, and no spears have dropped, for instance.

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