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The fork-maker might give it 2/10, but a dev? ⋅ Monster base is not nearly obscure enough of a reference, name is too straightforward, and it doesn't propagate injokes like crabs or sprint uniques ⋅ Unrelated quotes are an inheritance from a different era- nowadays, they're almos...

As the designer of modern ziggurats I'd veto requiring even all-rune games to clear the vast play shift contained in them. There's too much build bias. There is literally already an item near-exclusive to the bottom of ziggurats, a happy side-benefit from making it much easier to chain them. Make th...

Man, the huge culture divide between how the majority of the experienced English-speaking community sees extended as "optional content that's much too long, full of redundant filler, and with not enough control over it" and how other places like the Korean community sees extended as "...

Rast: Two over one compared to dozens has clearly different issues to address, not that I'm remotely interested in dissecting politick in this medium of forum or game project I've openly and constantly expressed distaste for. Mostly I am just hoping somebody who can remember earlier days of Stone So...

the gender disparity is a relevant and important issue that should be discussed. just not by zoopy joobles Just to confirm across the history of the dev team- there was jpeg five years ago, rax maintains CAO, regret-index just started her spiro + estradiol prescription, and that's about it, right? ...

If no_tele_into prevents shafting as it should (which hasn't been reported as an issue in quite the while), it is indeed impossible to land via-shaft into a diamond obelisk's range outside of Zot. Apis haven't been partially-natural-holiness for two months now. I'm not sure why felids are listed so ...

Was mixing in a response to ion_frigate's alternate "demote them to 3s" notes at the same time. 1s should be kept in SGD because the guaranteed place to see it is in the final level of most games on something that doesn't mind torment at all (ancient liches on Zot:5)- if tormenting allies ...

I will admit Tzitzimimeh are still too scattered to be functional, and they probably need to lose Bolt of Cold for extra Torment / Dispel (or the miasma ring could be dropped for a single cloud directly under the player or whatever).

More important than how to communicate a tier's mechanical contents is communicating their mechanical use- 3s and 4s are summoned by Summon Demon, so that proposal either wants kobold demonologists and orc high priests to get hellions and tormentors or to make the mighty Summon Greater Demon the onl...

Allusions to proposals without actually linking to them and all the words providing at least basic responses towards concerns, tisk tisk. Reducing the thousand words to "put Hell and Pan in a roulette" as the proposal completely ignores "and make special announced serial vaults using...

Combining mottled and yellow draconians alongside making mottled dragons spit acid has been on my final todo list for a while now ever since I heard of it. Part of my notes were also to preserve the mottled draconian melee-splash breath aspect even when making them use acid, so that it in isolation ...

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probably the fallout over this won't make two devs flee and leave another maimed though

Yes, it is indeed rather silly to aggressively assume that any change is a deliberate attempt to ruin everybody's day forever, and anything between a morgue file or a provided save to further details or even just a bug report instead of an angry tavern thread would have been an attempt at aide rath...

High-tier support monster is what results when one can kill it easily with a variety of differing tools but otherwise can get unlucky and get hit extreme damage, which is why they call over a floor spawn, come with a band naturally, and appear alone in the Swamp rune vault ~20% of the time. It means...

Honestly, I'm interested enough in the idea of putting back the rim but opening the quadrant corners that I've been hacking away at my own version of it , and for the sake of the argument and for testing I recommend using that work-in-progress instead (I was at something like 41/69 of the quadrants ...

Side note about another case of this issue: Sonja is speed 14 and Psyche is speed 13, but I've seen few complaints about Sonja being innately faster than earlier kobolds or Psyche being innately faster than the many other early human uniques representing slower forms, much less requests to explicitl...

Sorry, I pushed a patch I had been holding onto for a while without re-checking it and broke a few things (stupid uniquely-silly lab code, ugh). I've already pushed the commits involving fixing this, things should be fine with the manual server updates or tomorrow's automatic ones. Note that if you ...

apparently a design goal is to have all the monsters in the game able to appear anywhere in the game there's no other reasonable explanation for adding snake monsters to depths Removing forty monsters, including a decent chunk of Lair, Swamp, and Crypt monsters, from late D, and incidentally increa...

The fact that somebody would state that a thread won't get the attention of the devs due to lack of quality in the discourse, then mouth off at a dev for trying to regulate the levels of involved discourse, is a pretty sad but adequate demonstration of how the Tavern community is pretty bad at actua...

B. a large number of vaults (probably 100+) have to be [...] heavily modified. I'll get right on it. I can already think of a few uses of stone and transparent stone, a few more of runed doors, and the aforementioned no_rtele_into digging clause would deal well with others. (That's a very exaggerat...

Ice caves have an innate difficulty counter based on depth of the entrance, which can change monster sets. I made "hard" (currently D:15-, Elf, Vaults) ice caves with demons (nearly all of them at that depth) have a 1/3 chance for two blizzard demons instead of a singular ice fiend, for th...

############################################################################## # Dogs by themselves get repetitive, so do bears. What if we combine them?... # Previously "kennels" and "bearwithus", both by due. # # TODO: possibly even further up the threat, this is still somewha...

Rune Lock wrote:http://i.imgur.com/G2OJXVZ.png

Such a shame, there being only one rune available in the game pre-rune-lock.

There was common, repeated IRC and tavern advice from people somewhat respected to skip one, then both branches that DracoOmega had recently overhauled, inherently negative both on the developer and on the development process. There have always been key issues with people involved in Crawl, with dis...

ITEM: gold good_item ITEM: any armour examples of lua in vaults themselves from examining http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git 's search function ("grep" choice for the source) is the easiest way to learn, alongside judicious use of the knowledge bots when appropiate. if you're going to be ...

(the pink stain was a dropped strawberry, shut up)

guide[2/4]: ** ** of *** guide: play, watch, listen, learn until you don't need non-human guides to help you beat random games

Not to rain on anybody's parade with the ever so fun work here making a portal vault work, but I have to note a few things about the actual vault designs. Monsters dangerous for D:1 showing up scatted around a little in a few generic randomly-spun paths with zero randomization as the sole contents f...

Of course, if you use &L(*) then one doesn't see the level builder build around the vault, monsters already present will end up inside walls (although this is probably a bug to fix), and random generation won't actually place anything in the vault. &^P for level re-building currently crashes...

By 089 vaults, you mean vaults using standard monster placement to avoid getting suckered into novelty monster layouts leading to unpredictable OoD monsters? I'll confess that these are mostly expected dungeon shapes: oblongs and rectangles. Is there a consensus that there are already enough rectil...

... Well then. Not trying to be hostile, and mostly using this as an excuse to blather further on about vaults design, but, well, these are either extremely work-in-progress vaults or you really need to practice with more restricted types of vaults, such as 089 vaults; the vaults are also very boxy ...

Here, have a look at some thoughts guiding my many, many work-in-progress vaults. * Early-game (pre-Lair) vaults are always appreciated to increase the variety of the most often played section of the game. Of particular interest are builder-based vaults such as Orc and Lair entries, food vaults, and...

I suppose it'd be nice to note the birth of some absolute monstrosity here, of all places...

There's a quiet hate amongst a few in ##crawl based on the perceived pointlessness of monster flavour re-names promoting spoilers, and more random descriptive messages for vaults would have the same issues. I don't personally hate the practice as a whole (though I've almost never used it short of se...

Nobody reported on Mantis that since "portal branches" happened wizlabs stopped reporting names in the notes, eurgh. Currently working on a patch for my vaults for 0.12 (0.11 is in pre-release beta and thus not really trunk): wizlab_golubria will at minimum lose the lava, shallow water, an...

As was brought up when Grunt posted issue #5898, Tomb should probably stick to the current three encompass vaults it has; there stands a solid balance for teleportation and consistent safe-spots in all three layouts, aside from skipping the second part of Tomb:1 since the second part of Tomb:2 isn't...

Strictly speaking, though not made through a serial vault, the use of shoalhut vaults on Shoals:5 very closely approaches it. serial_hangedman_research has an purposefully low chance of placement (low depth + 0.5% chance per floor + dropping out of V due to implementation issues for what should be a...

There is a small mini-vault of mine currently under progress. It has a lot of simple monster sets (rotated heavily): * rat, green rat, orange rat * worm, brain worm, spiny worm * ooze, jelly, brown ooze / slime creature * jackal, hound, hell hound * bat, vampire bat /fire bat, unseen horror * giant ...

* We're supposed to have portal branches now, not that anybody really uses this term. * Early dragons, good, early hides and risk/reward, also good, though sensible players would avoid nearly-assured death by dragon. Monster-to-dragon and loot connections/balance seem weak or nonsensical (D:1 trash ...

Skeletal Alligator and Skeletal Alligator Snapping Turtle Slight thread necromancy, but to briefly continue a trend of intermittent irreverency: I'm disappointed nobody pointed out that crawl uses "alligator skeleton" and "alligator snapping turtle skeleton", which makes this ar...

Orb spiders...do I seriously need to explain why introducing the single most ridiculed feature from 4.1 is a bad idea? I was not aware that monsters that fire a semi-unique, terrain-deforming projectile that prompt movement in an open habitat that traps and surrounds players, as well as imperfectly...

Oh look, the other one came out to play too. Antagonism should not define an argument. "Alligator skeleton" is a very odd way to describe the large quadruped skeleton tile , and in comparing with the alligator tile and the alligator snapping turtle tile shows few obvious even form-based c...

XuaXua wrote:
mumra wrote:Currently the only monster that fires webs is Arachne.

What? I thought it was jumping spiders too.

nicolae wrote:Jumping spiders sometimes put a web on you when they pounce at you, which is kind of similar.

Pink 3, cyan 3, Y, K.

Guess what: the 0.10 commit on de-spoiler-ifying of ossuaries didn't touch ossuary_minmay_tomb_2a. If anything, this particular piece of feedback highlights an idiosyncrasy in the vault settings of secret doors, that the specific feature they distguish themselves as attempts to be similar to their ...

Scattershot response: * Out of this list, I'd argue a few monsters aren't useless: - Spriggan rider: The basic concept of two monsters, and their combined mr, sinv, hp, and magically allowing spriggans to use a spear and a buckler together isn't completely ignorable. Exaggerating this concept by mak...

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