0000548: Adding shallow water as a status - Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup Tracker

(0001581)
dpeg (administrator)
2010-01-25 13:27

I agree. If we do this, do we also want to indicate if the player is over deep water (e.g. Wet in two colours)?

(0001582)
jpeg (manager)
2010-01-25 16:25

What does shallow water do nowadays? I gather it doesn't affect fighting anymore (though I'm not sure I like that). Slow down movement speed?

Levitating/flying/swimming through[*] dangerous terrain could warrant a status indicator by itself. Should also cover lava.

*) in ice form (possibly also walking on water as a Beoghite)

And a special note to say that Tiles doesn't require a status indicator for deep or shallow water, but I wouldn't mind a general drowning danger indicator.

(0001584)
Lemuel (updater)
2010-01-25 16:47

The combat penalty for shallow water was removed? Why? I suggest reverting that change.

(0001586)
doy (developer)
2010-01-25 17:11

What was removed was shallow water bonuses (swamp worm double damage attacks, etc). Floundering for non-water-native attackers in shallow water still exists (as far as I'm aware).

(0001600)
rob (developer)
2010-01-25 19:35

On ##crawl-dev, syllogism requested also showing whether you're levitating over deep water (and presumably lava). This could be accomplished with "Water" (light or dark blue) or "Lava", though these are a little at odds with other status effects. Also, you wouldn't get the distinction between standing in water and levitating over water except by the additional Fly/Lev.

Another option would be to show the cell the character is standing in somewhere in the hud, perhaps at the start of the status line (that would be a blue ~ usually).

(0001613)
Kyrris (reporter)
2010-01-25 22:05

I like the option of having a place to glance to see what's at your feet. Although just pressing ; works, doesn't it?

(0001641)
due (developer)
2010-01-26 01:29

The only shallow water effect that was removed was the water attack bonus, where water-native swimmers get a damage bonus against anyone floundering. Floundering definitely still exists, as I didn't touch any of that code.

(0011258)
Eronarn (updater)
2011-02-20 05:56

This is still relevant. I propose these for the status lights:

light blue "Shallow": shallow water
dark blue "Deep": deep water
red "Lava": lava
brown "Mud": Leda's

and darkgrey them out if you're flying or clinging above them.

It could be worthwhile to do something similar for standing in a cloud (also not visible except for inspecting) - a status light with the cloud's shortname and cloud color.

(0018818)
neil (administrator)
2012-07-07 21:04

In trunk (0.11-a0-718-gcfef93b).

Notes
(0001581) dpeg (administrator) 2010-01-25 13:27	I agree. If we do this, do we also want to indicate if the player is over deep water (e.g. Wet in two colours)?

(0001582) jpeg (manager) 2010-01-25 16:25	What does shallow water do nowadays? I gather it doesn't affect fighting anymore (though I'm not sure I like that). Slow down movement speed? Levitating/flying/swimming through[] dangerous terrain could warrant a status indicator by itself. Should also cover lava. ) in ice form (possibly also walking on water as a Beoghite) And a special note to say that Tiles doesn't require a status indicator for deep or shallow water, but I wouldn't mind a general drowning danger indicator.

(0001584) Lemuel (updater) 2010-01-25 16:47	The combat penalty for shallow water was removed? Why? I suggest reverting that change.

(0001586) doy (developer) 2010-01-25 17:11	What was removed was shallow water bonuses (swamp worm double damage attacks, etc). Floundering for non-water-native attackers in shallow water still exists (as far as I'm aware).

(0001600) rob (developer) 2010-01-25 19:35	On ##crawl-dev, syllogism requested also showing whether you're levitating over deep water (and presumably lava). This could be accomplished with "Water" (light or dark blue) or "Lava", though these are a little at odds with other status effects. Also, you wouldn't get the distinction between standing in water and levitating over water except by the additional Fly/Lev. Another option would be to show the cell the character is standing in somewhere in the hud, perhaps at the start of the status line (that would be a blue ~ usually).

(0001613) Kyrris (reporter) 2010-01-25 22:05	I like the option of having a place to glance to see what's at your feet. Although just pressing ; works, doesn't it?

(0001641) due (developer) 2010-01-26 01:29	The only shallow water effect that was removed was the water attack bonus, where water-native swimmers get a damage bonus against anyone floundering. Floundering definitely still exists, as I didn't touch any of that code.

(0011258) Eronarn (updater) 2011-02-20 05:56	This is still relevant. I propose these for the status lights: light blue "Shallow": shallow water dark blue "Deep": deep water red "Lava": lava brown "Mud": Leda's and darkgrey them out if you're flying or clinging above them. It could be worthwhile to do something similar for standing in a cloud (also not visible except for inspecting) - a status light with the cloud's shortname and cloud color.

(0018818) neil (administrator) 2012-07-07 21:04	In trunk (0.11-a0-718-gcfef93b).

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-01-25 12:09	cbus	New Issue
2010-01-25 13:27	dpeg	Note Added: 0001581
2010-01-25 16:25	jpeg	Note Added: 0001582
2010-01-25 16:47	Lemuel	Note Added: 0001584
2010-01-25 17:11	doy	Note Added: 0001586
2010-01-25 19:35	rob	Note Added: 0001600
2010-01-25 22:05	Kyrris	Note Added: 0001613
2010-01-26 01:29	due	Note Added: 0001641
2011-02-20 05:56	Eronarn	Note Added: 0011258
2012-07-07 21:04	neil	Note Added: 0018818
2012-07-07 21:04	neil	Status	new => resolved
2012-07-07 21:04	neil	Fixed in Branch	=> 0.11 development branch
2012-07-07 21:04	neil	Resolution	open => done
2012-07-07 21:04	neil	Assigned To	=> neil

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