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0005054 [DCSS] Bug Report minor have not tried 2011-12-14 22:56 2014-08-14 08:44
Reporter elliptic View Status public  
Assigned To doy
Priority normal Resolution done  
Status resolved   Product Branch 0.10 ancient branch
Summary 0005054: Maras are frozen.
Description  The heat is drained from your surroundings.
 You resist. You feel very cold. Maras are frozen. Mara resists. Mara resists.
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KiloByte (manager)
2011-12-15 13:50

What's wrong here?

While there are no instances of one being in multiple persons in RL (Christian god... but not that R either), you can have people by the same name. The grammar there would be "Joes are frozen.". So everything seems to be alright to me.
ion_frigate (reporter)
2011-12-15 19:50

Actually it would make more sense in that case to say "Mara is frozen. Mara is frozen." - it both sounds better and is consistent with the resistance message. It sounds very weird to pluralize a name as it does now - if you pluralize a name without an article, it sounds like you're making a general statement about people with the name (e.g. "There are a lot of Johns in Arizona.") Another possible way to do it would be to say "The Maras are frozen." - still sounds a little odd, but much better than "Maras are frozen."
rriegs (reporter)
2011-12-15 20:26

While proper nouns can be pluralized without a leading "the", ion_frigate is correct that this generalizes the noun: it speaks about all Maras (or Johns). Adding "the" narrows the statement to a specific group at hand, just as it does for pluralized common nouns. See the first few examples in [^]

I like "The Maras are frozen" much better than just "Maras are frozen", but I'd like to point out that the practice of compacting repeat messages (for monsters with or without names) does reduce the amount of information available to the player. Perhaps "Two Maras are frozen" would be better.
doy (developer)
2014-08-14 08:44

Fixed in 00d6247.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2011-12-14 22:56 elliptic New Issue
2011-12-15 13:50 KiloByte Note Added: 0016254
2011-12-15 19:50 ion_frigate Note Added: 0016261
2011-12-15 20:26 rriegs Note Added: 0016262
2014-08-14 08:44 doy Note Added: 0027002
2014-08-14 08:44 doy Status new => resolved
2014-08-14 08:44 doy Fixed in Branch => 0.16 development branch
2014-08-14 08:44 doy Resolution open => done
2014-08-14 08:44 doy Assigned To => doy

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