0005010: Monsters with blink are randomly able to blink trough vetrified walls.

(0016123)
evilmike (developer)
2011-12-05 22:36

I'm not sure this is a bug. At least, it's something I've always known about, but just assumed it was intended that monsters get to cheat with glass here.

(0016128)
ion_frigate (reporter)
2011-12-06 16:57

IMO it needs to be addressed. In particular:

* Standard spellcaster monsters shouldn't be able to blink through walls
* Monsters whose teleportation is something more innate (blink frogs, electric golems, imps) should be able to
* BUT, by the same token, Lugonu's Bend Space should have the same ability. Right now, it's just "Blink that hurts you" - why don't we give it a reason for existing?

(0016133)
minmay (reporter)
2011-12-07 01:42

I've seen blink frogs blinking through those vitrified walls...and I've also seen them *not* blinking through them for thousands of turns in a row. There's definitely a bug here one way or the other.

(0026668)
wheals (administrator)
2014-07-02 19:03

Monster blink has been changed to respect glass walls, it seems.

(0026670)
PleasingFungus (administrator)
2014-07-02 19:10

For the historical record: monsters had special case code to allow them to blink through walls in certain circumstances; either if the start/end-point of the blink was outside the player's LOS, or...

- // If the monster is on a visible square which is on the other
- // side of one or more translucent walls from the player, then it
- // can only blink through translucent walls if the end point
- // is either not visible to the player, or there are at least
- // as many translucent walls between the player and the end
- // point as between the player and the start point. However,
- // monsters can still blink through translucent walls to get
- // away from the player, since in the absence of translucent
- // walls monsters can blink to places which are not in either
- // the monster's nor the player's LOS.

This was removed in a5274fd6dc5.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2011-12-05 15:58	Ragdoll	New Issue
2011-12-05 22:36	evilmike	Note Added: 0016123
2011-12-06 16:57	ion_frigate	Note Added: 0016128
2011-12-07 01:42	minmay	Note Added: 0016133
2013-05-31 15:34	mumra	Issue Monitored: mumra
2014-07-02 19:03	wheals	Note Added: 0026668
2014-07-02 19:03	wheals	Status	new => resolved
2014-07-02 19:03	wheals	Fixed in Branch	=> 0.15 development branch
2014-07-02 19:03	wheals	Resolution	open => done
2014-07-02 19:03	wheals	Assigned To	=> wheals
2014-07-02 19:10	PleasingFungus	Note Added: 0026670

Notes
(0016123) evilmike (developer) 2011-12-05 22:36	I'm not sure this is a bug. At least, it's something I've always known about, but just assumed it was intended that monsters get to cheat with glass here.

(0016128) ion_frigate (reporter) 2011-12-06 16:57	IMO it needs to be addressed. In particular: * Standard spellcaster monsters shouldn't be able to blink through walls * Monsters whose teleportation is something more innate (blink frogs, electric golems, imps) should be able to * BUT, by the same token, Lugonu's Bend Space should have the same ability. Right now, it's just "Blink that hurts you" - why don't we give it a reason for existing?

(0016133) minmay (reporter) 2011-12-07 01:42	I've seen blink frogs blinking through those vitrified walls...and I've also seen them not blinking through them for thousands of turns in a row. There's definitely a bug here one way or the other.

(0026668) wheals (administrator) 2014-07-02 19:03	Monster blink has been changed to respect glass walls, it seems.

(0026670) PleasingFungus (administrator) 2014-07-02 19:10	For the historical record: monsters had special case code to allow them to blink through walls in certain circumstances; either if the start/end-point of the blink was outside the player's LOS, or... - // If the monster is on a visible square which is on the other - // side of one or more translucent walls from the player, then it - // can only blink through translucent walls if the end point - // is either not visible to the player, or there are at least - // as many translucent walls between the player and the end - // point as between the player and the start point. However, - // monsters can still blink through translucent walls to get - // away from the player, since in the absence of translucent - // walls monsters can blink to places which are not in either - // the monster's nor the player's LOS. This was removed in a5274fd6dc5.

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