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0004869 [DCSS] Upload: Graphics trivial N/A 2011-11-07 22:36 2014-09-13 22:26
Reporter roctavian View Status public  
Assigned To ontoclasm
Priority normal Resolution done  
Status closed   Product Branch 0.10 ancient branch
Summary 0004869: More monster tile candidates
Description Some more replacements for uniques, and some Tengu tiles to go into unused for potential Tengu monsters in the future. I submitted separately from my last tile submissions in case these need any major changes/are denied.

Left to right, top to bottom: Josephine, Nikola, Kirke, Jessica, Psyche, Erica, Azrael, Efreet, Shadow Fiend; Aizul, Guardian Serpent, Kraken(head), Tengu Conjuror, Tengu Summoner, Tengu Fighter, Tengu Skald, Tengu Hunter, Tengu (altered original tile so it can be shown with equipment.
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Attached Files png file icon monstertiles2.png [^] (22,490 bytes) 2011-11-07 22:36

png file icon josephine.png [^] (1,300 bytes) 2011-11-09 19:52

png file icon azarael.png [^] (979 bytes) 2011-11-09 20:01

png file icon nikola.png [^] (1,545 bytes) 2011-11-12 20:18

png file icon monsters3.png [^] (5,384 bytes) 2011-11-15 22:52

png file icon trapdoor.png [^] (1,573 bytes) 2012-04-17 20:21

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-  Notes
KiloByte (manager)
2011-11-07 23:22

Josephine, Nikola: big improvements. There's one problem, though: neither of them have a fixed weapon -- and in fact, Josephine starts with a dagger.

Kirke, Jessica, Erica: I prefer the old one a bit.

Psyche: old one if far better IMO.
Azarael: uhm, he's supposed to be an efreet, not a genie. He's 100% fiery.

Shadow fiend: seems to be hard to see, old one didn't have that problem.

Aizul, guardian serpent: way better than coloured snake.

Tengu band: hell yeah. There are no tengus out of a couple of vaults currently, but even the Shoals one could take two of the tiles, and we can add more even if just to use these :p
roctavian (developer)
2011-11-08 05:14
edited on: 2011-11-08 05:22

I guess the idea with Azarael was the notion of blue flames being hotter than red ones, and now I think he looks like a Disney character, which is gross. Consider that one un-submitted.

I assumed Nikola's weapon was fixed -- in wizmode, 10 times out of 10 he generated with a sabre of electrocution.

I'll have a Josephine without a fixed weapon up sometime later, and if anyone likes that Efreet tile I can make a new Azarael one.

(Edit: The Tengu tiles were based on evktalo's Floating Rocks suggestion on the wiki, but whether or not that ever gets implemented they're my favorite race and I thought I'd lobby for better representation through the magic of pixels)

KiloByte (manager)
2011-11-10 02:56

Nikola is always generated with a sabre, yeah, but like almost all monsters he's allowed to upgrade it if he finds something better. His only quirk is to demand the electrocution brand.
roctavian (developer)
2011-11-15 22:53
edited on: 2011-11-16 02:25

More new tiles, left to right: Tentacled Monstrosity, Red Devil, Iron Devil, Blizzard Demon (edit: in case it isn't clear here on mantis, there's electricity crackling around the blizzard demon tile as per the monster description)

evktalo (administrator)
2012-02-15 13:04

Unassigning due to lack of time on my part.

Regarding Kirke, I like the tile here more generally, but her hair-do (tied up) and the colour of her dress (white) are better in the current tile. It'd be cool to see these features in the new tile.

roctavian (developer)
2012-04-17 20:25

Uploaded a tile for a trapdoor spider -- I added it to this old entry of mine because I really want to see that Nikola go in someday, but I think it would be more of a faux pas to post a new issue for him.
Galefury (updater)
2012-04-18 01:18
edited on: 2012-04-18 10:06

Just posting a note requesting someone to look at the issue or bothering people on ##crawl-dev is 100% fine, no need to add a new tile to this old issue just to get it to the top of the list. That being said, since none of these tiles seem to have been added yet, adding another tile to the batch probably wont make this any harder to process.

Of the newer tiles the only one I don't like is the tentacled monstrosity. The current one looks much more monstrous to me. Yours looks kind of cute, like it just wants to play. The current tile isn't great either, though.

The trapdoor spider looks a little weird, but the trapdoor spiders in crawl are pretty weird, so I suppose it's okay. It might not look good ingame, though.

Regarding the older tiles I agree with kilobyte and evktalo. Except for Erica, she spawns with a flaming falchion, the staff in her current tile gives a wrong impression.

KiloByte (manager)
2012-04-18 01:27

I really, really prefer tiles to be added as separate issues, that way it's easy to track what has been installed and what not.

So far installed: trapdoor spider, Nikola.
roctavian (developer)
2012-04-18 07:51

Noted, I'll keep things to new issues in the future! Batching things seemed more convenient and directly telling people to put my tiles in the game feels presumptuous. Since this issue is a bit muddled -- un-implemented tiles, implemented tiles, and ones that need to be revised -- maybe it would be better off closed? I have some edits to make, and can simply re-submit my revisions as a new issue.
edlothiol (developer)
2012-05-26 13:39

I've committed the blizzard demon, red devil, iron devil, guardian serpent, Aizul, Josephine and the tengu. (The old tengu tile was perfectly capable of being shown with equipment, so this is mostly for consistency when we add tengu using the other tiles.)

This leaves Kirke, Jessica, Psyche, Erica, Azrael and the Efreet, the shadow fiend, and the tentacled monstrosity, I think.
About the tentacled monstrosity, I agree with Galefury, it looks kind of cute. I think it's the small eye ;)

If you want to submit revisions to these tiles, it might be better to do it here so it's easier to compare. Just make sure to post a comment so we get notified, and if you have completely new tiles, post them in a new issue :)
mumra (developer)
2013-03-27 06:28

The tentacled monstrosity in monsters3.png looks to me like some form of abyssal plant, maybe some kind of sentient seaweed; I'm wondering if it should go in unused? Otherwise, I think everything needed from this issue has been used and we should close it?
roctavian (developer)
2014-09-13 22:26

closing many ancient, resolved tile submissions

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2011-11-07 22:36 roctavian New Issue
2011-11-07 22:36 roctavian File Added: monstertiles2.png
2011-11-07 23:22 KiloByte Note Added: 0015755
2011-11-08 05:14 roctavian Note Added: 0015760
2011-11-08 05:22 roctavian Note Edited: 0015760
2011-11-09 19:52 roctavian File Added: josephine.png
2011-11-09 20:01 roctavian File Added: azarael.png
2011-11-09 21:50 evktalo Status new => assigned
2011-11-09 21:50 evktalo Assigned To => evktalo
2011-11-10 02:56 KiloByte Note Added: 0015786
2011-11-12 20:18 roctavian File Added: nikola.png
2011-11-15 22:52 roctavian File Added: monsters3.png
2011-11-15 22:53 roctavian Note Added: 0015869
2011-11-16 02:25 roctavian Note Edited: 0015869
2012-02-15 13:04 evktalo Note Added: 0017032
2012-02-15 13:04 evktalo Assigned To evktalo =>
2012-02-15 13:04 evktalo Status assigned => acknowledged
2012-04-17 20:21 roctavian File Added: trapdoor.png
2012-04-17 20:25 roctavian Note Added: 0017773
2012-04-18 01:18 Galefury Note Added: 0017776
2012-04-18 01:27 Galefury Note Edited: 0017776
2012-04-18 01:27 KiloByte Note Added: 0017777
2012-04-18 07:51 roctavian Note Added: 0017780
2012-04-18 10:06 Galefury Note Edited: 0017776
2012-05-26 13:39 edlothiol Note Added: 0018142
2013-03-14 22:08 mumra Issue Monitored: mumra
2013-03-27 06:28 mumra Note Added: 0021859
2013-05-07 17:35 edlothiol Issue Monitored: edlothiol
2013-05-19 23:55 ontoclasm Status acknowledged => resolved
2013-05-19 23:55 ontoclasm Fixed in Branch => 0.13 development branch
2013-05-19 23:55 ontoclasm Resolution open => done
2013-05-19 23:55 ontoclasm Assigned To => ontoclasm
2014-09-13 22:26 roctavian Note Added: 0027247
2014-09-13 22:26 roctavian Status resolved => closed

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