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ID Category Severity Reproducibility Date Submitted Last Update
0002735 [DCSS] Bug Report minor have not tried 2010-10-19 23:42 2013-03-19 20:44
Reporter kurper View Status public  
Assigned To doy
Priority normal Resolution duplicate  
Status resolved   Product Branch 0.8 ancient branch
Summary 0002735: Water creatures can be trampled out of the water
Description How to reproduce: Summon Shadow Creatures in the lair, get a bunch of elephants, have them attack a jellyfish, watch it get trampled out of the water before they finish killing it. Patch attached.
Additional Information
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Attached Files ? file icon 0001-Don-t-let-water-only-creatures-get-trampled-out-of-t.patch [^] (890 bytes) 2010-10-19 23:42 [Show Content]

- Relationships
has duplicate 0004813closedGalefury Trampling can move aquatic creatures out of water 
has duplicate 0006790closedwheals Krakens can be trampled to solid land 

-  Notes
(0009038)
evktalo (administrator)
2010-10-20 10:55

 Thanks for the patch, but.. this sounds more like a feature than a bug. You know that fish can be forced out of water by drying the water from around them, by blinking them with distortion (I think), and possibly other means?

I'm not sure what the old code was supposed to do, but trampling fish out of water sounds ok to me.

--Eino
(0009041)
OG17 (reporter)
2010-10-20 13:33

 Aquatic creatures being pushed out of water seems weird, as nonaquatic creatures can't be pushed into drowning. You'd also expect the trampling monster to end up charging to its death if the victim is pushed out of deep water or lava. And this is approaching FR, but given the penalities, it's questionable that nonaquatic monsters can trample in shallow water at all.
(0009043)
evktalo (administrator)
2010-10-20 15:59

 Those are instakills, which is a good balance reason to keep that from happening, even if they break expectations a bit. Good points anyhow, including if non-aquatic monsters should trample in water at all.

I assigned to doy, if he has time to take a look and decide.

--Eino
(0009044)
dpeg (administrator)
2010-10-20 17:43

 I don't think it is a bug. As Eino says, balance is more important than symmetry: pushing landlubbers (like most players) into water is bad, so we don't. Pushing water creatures out of water is okay.
(0021702)
mumra (developer)
2013-03-19 20:44

 Closing this duplicate. I don't think this needs fixing, except perhaps solely for krakens which are mentioned in the remaining duplicate.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-10-19 23:42 kurper New Issue
2010-10-19 23:42 kurper File Added: 0001-Don-t-let-water-only-creatures-get-trampled-out-of-t.patch
2010-10-20 10:55 evktalo Note Added: 0009038
2010-10-20 13:33 OG17 Note Added: 0009041
2010-10-20 15:55 evktalo Assigned To => doy
2010-10-20 15:56 evktalo Status new => acknowledged
2010-10-20 15:59 evktalo Note Added: 0009043
2010-10-20 17:43 dpeg Note Added: 0009044
2011-10-26 15:28 Galefury Relationship added has duplicate 0004813
2013-03-17 19:10 mumra Relationship added has duplicate 0006790
2013-03-19 20:44 mumra Note Added: 0021702
2013-03-19 20:44 mumra Status acknowledged => resolved
2013-03-19 20:44 mumra Resolution open => duplicate

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