0002454: cloud glyphs (was: clouds out of LOS) - Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup Tracker

(0007859)
rob (developer)
2010-09-03 23:38

It's a bug (or rather it was missed when redoing the map knowledge stuff), though not showing clouds outside LOS (new in 0.7 I think) also feels a bit weird sometimes.

(0007864)
st (reporter)
2010-09-04 00:31

I think it would be ok if clouds had a different glyph than walls, not being able to tell which is which is the big problem, aswell not being able to easily clear them without going back to where they are, for temp clouds from spells

(0007866)
KiloByte (manager)
2010-09-04 00:54

+1 to st.

Clouds using the same glyph as walls in 7-bit mode is a glaring problem.

(0007868)
doy (developer)
2010-09-04 01:12

I think ` (backtick) has been suggested as an alternative in the past, I think it could work.

(0007872)
MrMisterMonkey (reporter)
2010-09-04 02:33

I use + as my cloud glyph, but it might not be the best default.

(0007873)
doy (developer)
2010-09-04 02:38

Watching clouded's game, ` seems pretty acceptable except that it looks weird when it conflicts with the beam glyph. This is pretty minor though, and a great deal better than the current situation in my opinion.

(0007889)
rob (developer)
2010-09-04 12:40

I tested with - for clouds, but it seems pretty easy to overlook when playing around with dangerous clouds (meph, etc.).

(0007892)
KiloByte (manager)
2010-09-04 12:48

I'd go with & for clouds, 0 for pan lords.

The opposite version could work too, just 0 would be consistent with 1-5.

(0007898)
OG17 (reporter)
2010-09-04 17:46

Wouldn't reverse-branded # work? St's ` makes it hard to tell the exact boundries of large clouds at a glance - it's too uncentered.

(0007902)
SlyShy (reporter)
2010-09-04 18:41

I use 0 for portals, + for clouds. I like + because it works nicely when clouds cover closed doors (which is a bug). ` is a bit too hard see for my tastes, although ' is slightly better.

(0007904)
nrook (updater)
2010-09-04 18:43

# is fine with Unicode, since walls are a different glyph. So if a change is made, the Unicode glyphs can probably stay the same, unless the new glyphs just objectively look better.

(0007905)
Core Xii (reporter)
2010-09-04 18:44

Isn't the Orb of Zot a 0?

(0019169)
KiloByte (manager)
2012-07-23 02:02

Clouds are not on '#' anymore, since ages ago.

Notes
(0007859) rob (developer) 2010-09-03 23:38	It's a bug (or rather it was missed when redoing the map knowledge stuff), though not showing clouds outside LOS (new in 0.7 I think) also feels a bit weird sometimes.

(0007864) st (reporter) 2010-09-04 00:31	I think it would be ok if clouds had a different glyph than walls, not being able to tell which is which is the big problem, aswell not being able to easily clear them without going back to where they are, for temp clouds from spells

(0007866) KiloByte (manager) 2010-09-04 00:54	+1 to st. Clouds using the same glyph as walls in 7-bit mode is a glaring problem.

(0007868) doy (developer) 2010-09-04 01:12	I think ` (backtick) has been suggested as an alternative in the past, I think it could work.

(0007872) MrMisterMonkey (reporter) 2010-09-04 02:33	I use + as my cloud glyph, but it might not be the best default.

(0007873) doy (developer) 2010-09-04 02:38	Watching clouded's game, ` seems pretty acceptable except that it looks weird when it conflicts with the beam glyph. This is pretty minor though, and a great deal better than the current situation in my opinion.

(0007889) rob (developer) 2010-09-04 12:40	I tested with - for clouds, but it seems pretty easy to overlook when playing around with dangerous clouds (meph, etc.).

(0007892) KiloByte (manager) 2010-09-04 12:48	I'd go with & for clouds, 0 for pan lords. The opposite version could work too, just 0 would be consistent with 1-5.

(0007898) OG17 (reporter) 2010-09-04 17:46	Wouldn't reverse-branded # work? St's ` makes it hard to tell the exact boundries of large clouds at a glance - it's too uncentered.

(0007902) SlyShy (reporter) 2010-09-04 18:41	I use 0 for portals, + for clouds. I like + because it works nicely when clouds cover closed doors (which is a bug). ` is a bit too hard see for my tastes, although ' is slightly better.

(0007904) nrook (updater) 2010-09-04 18:43	# is fine with Unicode, since walls are a different glyph. So if a change is made, the Unicode glyphs can probably stay the same, unless the new glyphs just objectively look better.

(0007905) Core Xii (reporter) 2010-09-04 18:44	Isn't the Orb of Zot a 0?

(0019169) KiloByte (manager) 2012-07-23 02:02	Clouds are not on '#' anymore, since ages ago.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-09-03 23:31	st	New Issue
2010-09-03 23:38	rob	Note Added: 0007859
2010-09-04 00:31	st	Note Added: 0007864
2010-09-04 00:54	KiloByte	Note Added: 0007866
2010-09-04 01:12	doy	Note Added: 0007868
2010-09-04 02:33	MrMisterMonkey	Note Added: 0007872
2010-09-04 02:38	doy	Note Added: 0007873
2010-09-04 12:40	rob	Note Added: 0007889
2010-09-04 12:48	KiloByte	Note Added: 0007892
2010-09-04 17:46	OG17	Note Added: 0007898
2010-09-04 18:41	SlyShy	Note Added: 0007902
2010-09-04 18:43	nrook	Note Added: 0007904
2010-09-04 18:44	Core Xii	Note Added: 0007905
2011-03-31 22:43	jpeg	Summary	clouds out of LOS => cloud glyphs (was: clouds out of LOS)
2012-07-23 02:02	KiloByte	Note Added: 0019169
2012-07-23 02:02	KiloByte	Status	new => resolved
2012-07-23 02:02	KiloByte	Fixed in Branch	=> 0.11 development branch
2012-07-23 02:02	KiloByte	Resolution	open => done
2012-07-23 02:02	KiloByte	Assigned To	=> KiloByte

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