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0011384 [DCSS] Upload: Maps and Vaults minor N/A 2018-02-11 00:05 2018-10-24 01:29
Reporter Skrybe View Status public  
Assigned To gammafunk
Priority normal Resolution done  
Status closed   Product Branch 0.22 ancient branch
Summary 0011384: 2 new vaults: special room & decor
Description special_room_magic_class: A "magic classroom" for Depths. General design ideas are:
- Monsters should be spellcasters, preferably humanoid (sphinxes in class would be weird.)
- Spells should be flavored as being learned through study (no priests or demons.)
- There should be a chance to generate uncommon but still threatening spellcasters (e.g. merfolk aquamancers.)
- Summoners should be weighted low, since there will already be a lot of creatures.

I noticed many of the existing special rooms have very specific weights on a per-floor basis. I wasn't sure of the rationale behind that, so this is just weighted 10 throughout Depths.

skrybe_x_decor: A simple decor vault for D and Depths.
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Attached Files ? file icon vaults.des [^] (1,203 bytes) 2018-02-11 00:05 [Show Content]
? file icon vaults_v2.des [^] (1,362 bytes) 2018-02-13 21:29 [Show Content]
? file icon magic_class_v3.des [^] (1,252 bytes) 2018-04-07 21:30 [Show Content]

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(0032088)
Skrybe (reporter)
2018-02-13 21:29

Made a small addition to special_room_magic_class: there is now a chance for a draconian shifter to appear as lord_mon on U:5.
(0032150)
gammafunk (administrator)
2018-03-25 07:07

The decor vault was pushed in 0.22-a0-300-g82e80c5 with minor fixes, thanks.

For the special room, the concept and most of the vault are fine, but one change I would like is to remove the use of earlier depth monsters, specifically nagaraja and aquamancers. Although these monsters are not substantially less threatening than some of their counterparts like Ogre mages and wizards that do place in Depths, they aren't especially threatening in any way that's going to be interesting. Moderately dangerous spell-caster is already very well covered by the other monsters in your list that are appropriate for their depth.

I don't mind out-of-branch monsters from branches more dangerous or at least roughly as dangerous as Depths, like late Elf, Crypt, or possible choices from extended branches, some of which might be only appropriate with low weight. But revisiting non-slime Lair branches isn't going to pose a challenge and makes the player feel they're fighting monsters they've already fought and that are now easy. Wizards and Ogre mages at least have a highly randomized spell sets that can make fighting them surprising in later portions of the game.
(0032152)
Skrybe (reporter)
2018-03-25 21:29

Thanks for the feedback, and for adding the decor vault. I'll go back over the special room and tweak it a bit further.
(0032164)
Skrybe (reporter)
2018-04-07 21:29

I've uploaded an adjusted magic_class. The nagaraja and aquamancers are out. I've added deep elf sorcerers at low-ish weight, and deep elf elementalists at low weight. Spriggan air mages are more common, and deep elf annihilators are less common. I also added a low chance for draconian annihilators on U:5.

lord_mon is buffed as well, with lower depths presenting an increasing chance to place an ancient lich. The ancient lich is almost guaranteed at U:3 and lower. These early ancient liches seem to almost border on being too hard, though special_room_morgue places them at the same depths.
(0032225)
gammafunk (administrator)
2018-05-05 10:45

Pushed with some minor modifications (described in the commit) and some formatting cleanups in 0.22-a0-399-gc4eb3cb44a, thanks!
(0032226)
Skrybe (reporter)
2018-05-05 22:51

Awesome, thanks!

Just FYI, I have some older vault submissions still sitting in Mantis as well. I'm particularly happy with the Xom trove in 0011133.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2018-02-11 00:05 Skrybe New Issue
2018-02-11 00:05 Skrybe File Added: vaults.des
2018-02-13 21:29 Skrybe Note Added: 0032088
2018-02-13 21:29 Skrybe File Added: vaults_v2.des
2018-03-25 07:07 gammafunk Note Added: 0032150
2018-03-25 21:29 Skrybe Note Added: 0032152
2018-04-07 21:29 Skrybe Note Added: 0032164
2018-04-07 21:30 Skrybe File Added: magic_class_v3.des
2018-05-05 10:45 gammafunk Note Added: 0032225
2018-05-05 10:45 gammafunk Status new => resolved
2018-05-05 10:45 gammafunk Resolution open => done
2018-05-05 10:45 gammafunk Assigned To => gammafunk
2018-05-05 22:51 Skrybe Note Added: 0032226
2018-10-24 01:29 Skrybe Status resolved => closed


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