0008138: Monster speed - Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup Tracker

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8138

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2014-02-11 17:49

2014-02-11 20:46

Reporter:

chris

Local or Remote:

Local

Assigned To:

sgrunt

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Other

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normal

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Both

Status:

closed

Product Branch:

0.14 ancient branch

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Resolution:

done

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none

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none

Fixed in Branch:

0.14 ancient branch

Summary:

0008138: Monster speed

Description:

Aim: Drastically reduce amount of monsters with speed 9 or 11

Due to the "monster speed" vs. "player delay" inconsistencies, speed 11 doesn't matter at all in practice. Some monsters currently on 11 were upgraded to 12, others down to 10 based on my personal experience and preference.

As for why I dislike monster speed 9: it's functionally equivalent to speed 8 (i.e. normal speed characters can kite the thing in question endlessly) but at least makes this not take as long. I don't find the possibility of kiting adds anything to the monster experience, so they were upgraded to speed 10 (smoke demon and starspawn).

Speed 11 on the other hand is very rarely noticed as it's almost 10 except not really. To further define certain monsters, speed 12 works better, and for all the other ones speed 10 is just as good. The balance implications, if any, are minor to nonexistent around the areas where one usually meets the affected monsters.

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speed11.patch
 * Change azure jelly speed to 12 (was: 11)
 * Change balrug speed to 12 (was: 11)
 * Change speed of some '2' tier demons to 10 (was: 11)
 * Change crab monster speed to 10 (was: 11)
 * Change eidolon speed to 10 (was: 11)
 * Change swamp drake speed to 10 (was: 11)
 * Change chaos spawn speed to 10 (was: 11)

speed9.patch
 * Speed 10 for smoke demons (was: 9)
 * Speed 10 for tentacled starspawns (was: 9)

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0007396

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Monster speed

Attached Files:

speed11.patch [^] (7,630 bytes) 2014-02-11 17:49 [Show Content] [Hide Content]

From dba2f290f5d42772649f984879001a0f17c79517 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Chris Oelmueller <chris.oelmueller@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:34:19 +0200
Subject: Change chaos spawn speed to 10 (was: 11)

---
 crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
index df1ae98..3ac284c 100644
--- a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
+++ b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
@@ -5394,7 +5394,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
     { {AT_RANDOM, AF_CHAOS, 21}, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK },
     { 6, 3, 5, 0 },
     7, 12, MST_NO_SPELLS, CE_NOCORPSE, Z_NOZOMBIE, S_RANDOM,
-    I_ANIMAL, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 11, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_ANIMAL, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 10, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_NOTHING, MONEAT_NOTHING, SIZE_BIG
 },
 
-- 
1.8.3.3


From 1ee2c54cf4ba0bb8942e0eaaafbbce4235d01578 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Chris Oelmueller <chris.oelmueller@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:41:22 +0200
Subject: Change swamp drake speed to 10 (was: 11)

This also fixes the 'drake' genus monster having speed 11.
---
 crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
index 3ac284c..40938fd 100644
--- a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
+++ b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
@@ -1320,7 +1320,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
     { {AT_BITE, AF_PLAIN, 14}, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK },
     { 4, 5, 5, 0 },
     3, 11, MST_NO_SPELLS, CE_POISON_CONTAM, Z_NOZOMBIE, S_ROAR,
-    I_ANIMAL, HT_LAND, FL_WINGED, 11, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_ANIMAL, HT_LAND, FL_WINGED, 10, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_NOTHING, MONEAT_NOTHING, SIZE_LARGE
 },
 
@@ -1332,7 +1332,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
     { {AT_BITE, AF_PLAIN, 14}, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK },
     { 4, 5, 5, 0 },
     3, 11, MST_SWAMP_DRAKE, CE_POISON_CONTAM, Z_BIG, S_ROAR,
-    I_ANIMAL, HT_LAND, FL_WINGED, 11, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_ANIMAL, HT_LAND, FL_WINGED, 10, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_NOTHING, MONEAT_NOTHING, SIZE_LARGE
 },
 
-- 
1.8.3.3


From a2ab658d2d5810e54f1787a98bdc69a91ab53f94 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Chris Oelmueller <chris.oelmueller@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:42:13 +0200
Subject: Change eidolon speed to 10 (was: 11)

---
 crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
index 40938fd..18251e5 100644
--- a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
+++ b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
@@ -4319,7 +4319,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
        AT_NO_ATK },
     { 13, 3, 5, 0 },
     12, 10, MST_EIDOLON, CE_NOCORPSE, Z_NOZOMBIE, S_MOAN,
-    I_NORMAL, HT_LAND, FL_LEVITATE, 11, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_NORMAL, HT_LAND, FL_LEVITATE, 10, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_OPEN_DOORS, MONEAT_NOTHING, SIZE_MEDIUM
 },
 
-- 
1.8.3.3


From 28e352235f987d9861385c0a7b2e09f2238aeccc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Chris Oelmueller <chris.oelmueller@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:30:19 +0200
Subject: Change crab monster speed to 10 (was: 11)

Affected monsters are fire crab and gimmick crab.
---
 crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
index 18251e5..a30c651 100644
--- a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
+++ b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
@@ -2153,7 +2153,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
     { {AT_BITE, AF_FIRE, 15}, {AT_CLAW, AF_FIRE, 15}, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK },
     { 8, 4, 5, 0 },
     9, 6, MST_NO_SPELLS, CE_POISON_CONTAM, Z_SMALL, S_SILENT,
-    I_INSECT, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 11, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_INSECT, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 10, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_NOTHING, MONEAT_NOTHING, SIZE_SMALL
 },
 
@@ -2165,7 +2165,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
     { {AT_BITE, AF_CHAOS, 15}, {AT_CLAW, AF_CHAOS, 15}, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK },
     { 8, 4, 5, 0 },
     11, 6, MST_NO_SPELLS, CE_MUTAGEN, Z_SMALL, S_SILENT,
-    I_INSECT, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 11, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_INSECT, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 10, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_NOTHING, MONEAT_NOTHING, SIZE_SMALL
 },
 
-- 
1.8.3.3


From 9d36370062124490487fbe4a7ab46d9c7f7ac912 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Chris Oelmueller <chris.oelmueller@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:46:55 +0200
Subject: Change speed of some '2' tier demons to 10 (was: 11)

Affected monsters are shadow demon, green death and blizzard demon.
---
 crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h | 6 +++---
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
index a30c651..f260be1 100644
--- a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
+++ b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
@@ -5408,7 +5408,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
     { {AT_HIT, AF_PLAIN, 21}, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK },
     { 10, 3, 5, 0 },
     7, 12, MST_SHADOW_DEMON, CE_NOCORPSE, Z_NOZOMBIE, S_CROAK,
-    I_HIGH, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 11, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_HIGH, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 10, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_OPEN_DOORS, MONEAT_NOTHING, SIZE_SMALL
 },
 
@@ -5420,7 +5420,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
     { {AT_HIT, AF_PLAIN, 32}, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK },
     { 13, 3, 5, 0 },
     5, 7, MST_GREEN_DEATH, CE_POISON_CONTAM, Z_NOZOMBIE, S_ROAR,
-    I_HIGH, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 11, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_HIGH, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 10, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_OPEN_DOORS, MONEAT_NOTHING, SIZE_LARGE
 },
 
@@ -5432,7 +5432,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
     { {AT_HIT, AF_PLAIN, 20}, {AT_HIT, AF_PLAIN, 20}, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK },
     { 12, 3, 5, 0 },
     10, 10, MST_BLIZZARD_DEMON, CE_NOCORPSE, Z_NOZOMBIE, S_SHOUT,
-    I_HIGH, HT_LAND, FL_LEVITATE, 11, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_HIGH, HT_LAND, FL_LEVITATE, 10, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_OPEN_DOORS, MONEAT_NOTHING, SIZE_LARGE
 },
 
-- 
1.8.3.3


From 2065f61175f3ed0354497ff8a2d84ac761c35a16 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Chris Oelmueller <chris.oelmueller@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:47:12 +0200
Subject: Change balrug speed to 12 (was: 11)

---
 crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
index f260be1..6ae70c5 100644
--- a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
+++ b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
@@ -5444,7 +5444,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
     { {AT_HIT, AF_FIRE, 25}, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK },
     { 14, 3, 5, 0 },
     5, 12, MST_BALRUG, CE_NOCORPSE, Z_NOZOMBIE, S_SHOUT,
-    I_HIGH, HT_LAND, FL_WINGED, 11, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_HIGH, HT_LAND, FL_WINGED, 12, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_WEAPONS_ARMOUR, MONEAT_NOTHING, SIZE_LARGE
 },
 
-- 
1.8.3.3


From 37792fc3907efc4464dc4be3c9f3c156dc8197b4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Chris Oelmueller <chris.oelmueller@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:15:03 +0200
Subject: Change azure jelly speed to 12 (was: 11)

In line with death ooze and acid blob.
---
 crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
index 6ae70c5..cbb2f11 100644
--- a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
+++ b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
@@ -3539,7 +3539,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
       {AT_HIT, AF_PLAIN, 12} },
     { 15, 3, 5, 0 },
     5, 10, MST_NO_SPELLS, CE_NOCORPSE, Z_NOZOMBIE, S_SILENT,
-    I_PLANT, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 11, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_PLANT, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 12, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_NOTHING, MONEAT_ITEMS, SIZE_SMALL
 },
 
-- 
1.8.3.3

speed9.patch [^] (1,687 bytes) 2014-02-11 17:50 [Show Content] [Hide Content]

From 222dcbaa7dbe658cef9cb4804e32a33bc261c6a1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Chris Oelmueller <chris.oelmueller@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:19:18 +0200
Subject: Speed 10 for tentacled starspawns (was: 9)

Not like anyone should notice a huge difference in the abyss here.
---
 crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
index 795c4f9..ed7e26c 100644
--- a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
+++ b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
@@ -4423,7 +4423,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
        AT_NO_ATK },
     { 16, 3, 5, 0 },
     5, 5, MST_TENTACLED_STARSPAWN, CE_NOCORPSE, Z_NOZOMBIE, S_SILENT,
-    I_NORMAL, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 9, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_NORMAL, HT_LAND, FL_NONE, 10, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_OPEN_DOORS, MONEAT_NOTHING, SIZE_GIANT
 },
 
-- 
1.8.3.3


From 1c3d33a74535d903c2e3ddd4fbc81427b90a720f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Chris Oelmueller <chris.oelmueller@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:19:34 +0200
Subject: Speed 10 for smoke demons (was: 9)

---
 crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
index ed7e26c..d26bb2a 100644
--- a/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
+++ b/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h
@@ -5358,7 +5358,7 @@ static monsterentry mondata[] = {
        AT_NO_ATK },
     { 7, 3, 5, 0 },
     5, 9, MST_SMOKE_DEMON, CE_NOCORPSE, Z_NOZOMBIE, S_ROAR,
-    I_NORMAL, HT_LAND, FL_LEVITATE, 9, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
+    I_NORMAL, HT_LAND, FL_LEVITATE, 10, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
     MONUSE_OPEN_DOORS, MONEAT_NOTHING, SIZE_SMALL
 },
 
-- 
1.8.3.3

Issue History

Date Modified

Username

Field

Change

2014-02-11 17:49

chris

New Issue

2014-02-11 17:49

chris

File Added: speed11.patch

2014-02-11 17:50

chris

File Added: speed9.patch

2014-02-11 20:40

sgrunt

Relationship added

related to 0007396

2014-02-11 20:41

sgrunt

Note Added: 0025286

2014-02-11 20:41

sgrunt

Assigned To

=> sgrunt

2014-02-11 20:41

sgrunt

Status

new => resolved

2014-02-11 20:41

sgrunt

Resolution

open => done

2014-02-11 20:41

sgrunt

Fixed in Branch

=> 0.14 development branch

2014-02-11 20:46

chris

Status

resolved => closed

Notes