0005857: Location Inappropriate Vaults - Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup Tracker

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(0018662) evilmike (developer) 2012-07-01 22:39 edited on: 2012-07-01 22:40	I'm not sure what vault you're talking about. There are some recent ones with gnolls in a forest, but they can't spawn on D:1 (D:2 is valid). If you can point out the vault, I will take a look at it. If you don't have the name of it, a screenshot is good enough. Otherwise I'm going to close this. Regarding your two points: Gnolls can spawn normally on D:1 (packs cannot). A vault that places a small number of gnolls is not unreasonable at this depth. On D:2, packs of gnolls can appear. Gnolls are the sort of monster you'd expect in a large vault on this level. As for the stashing thing, this is not a concern. You should never have enough items by d:2 that you need to make a stash. And besides that, any level with intelligent enemies can have them picking up items... this includes every level in D, whether it has a vault or not.

(0018664) giygas (reporter) 2012-07-01 23:00	Here it is as it appeared in Lair. This also appeared, in another game, on D:1. * ###(+####???, ,* * ##.f##?.?§g* .?, ##.###P?§P??.? . * ##..##??§??????.??§ ##..#.#??.???.???.?P ####......?..%?...?.? ?$# ...........?8.P.8?.???§? .##..........)???..??§??# ##......??..??@??.?.P># #........P?..??.?P?.?.# ##......#?.??.??)??.??# #......#.???.(?.?h?.?# #.......?..??P?(.P??..# ###..#.#?.?.?..(P.??.?* # #..###????????))?P?? ## ##. #.?P?.???.?..?# .## ,.+* #...??.§???..# Also, despite stashing not being a problem, a gnoll vault in lair does not seem to fit in with the flavor of lair.

(0018665) neil (administrator) 2012-07-01 23:17	There were already intelligent creatures in Lair, anyway: uniques, and some guardians of the Snake and Shoals entrances. If you care enough to stash on Lair:2 instead of Lair:1, you should also care enough to clear the level, at which point you'll only have the usual unintelligent Lair spawns (at least until the OOD timer hits). That said, I can see the argument for keeping the number intelligent creatures in Lair to a minimum.

(0022513) mumra (developer) 2013-04-30 20:32	Does anyone know which vault this is? I can't agree that Lair:2 is a bug, but if it's spawning on D:1 that's a problem. Otherwise we should close this issue.

(0022521) sgrunt (administrator) 2013-05-01 18:27	I remember looking briefly into this at the time this was reported; it was one of wad's woods vaults (then recently added) for which the depth was subsequently adjusted - in particular, the ones that place gnolls no longer place in D at all, and have an extremely low weight for their placement in Lair. I think we can safely close this.

(0022522) mumra (developer) 2013-05-01 18:28	Closing per sgrunt's comment

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2012-07-01 22:33	giygas	New Issue
2012-07-01 22:39	evilmike	Note Added: 0018662
2012-07-01 22:40	evilmike	Note Edited: 0018662
2012-07-01 23:00	giygas	Note Added: 0018664
2012-07-01 23:17	neil	Note Added: 0018665
2013-04-30 20:32	mumra	Note Added: 0022513
2013-05-01 18:27	sgrunt	Note Added: 0022521
2013-05-01 18:28	mumra	Note Added: 0022522
2013-05-01 18:28	mumra	Status	new => resolved
2013-05-01 18:28	mumra	Fixed in Branch	=> 0.13 development branch
2013-05-01 18:28	mumra	Resolution	open => done
2013-05-01 18:28	mumra	Assigned To	=> mumra

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