0005150: A bailey that requires levitation to access sometimes does not spawn the potions of levitation required.

(0016445)
neil (administrator)
2011-12-30 20:06

Seems like there's a 6.5% chance of no levitation item in this bailey (there could be a ring instead of potions). bailey_axe_3 is even worse, with no levitation items and a rather high chance that the entry room will be cut off from the rest by deep water.

(0016456)
evilmike (developer)
2011-12-31 00:44

Is this a bug or an intended feature of these maps?

Might be worth changing either way, but I never thought of this as a bug. It's similar in principle to that overflow altar that is surrounded by water/lava.

(0016457)
dpeg (administrator)
2011-12-31 00:53

It is intentional, although the status has been moving: originally, the river bailey gave you either potions or the ring. Then someone decided that we don't have to be that nice -- we can expect a bailey stormer to have one of blink, teleport, levitation.

So it is not a bug but you can change status quo if you like.

(0016461)
minmay (reporter)
2011-12-31 17:15

There's also a bailey *entry* vault which often requires a means of crossing deep water, but does not provide it.

(0016464)
Kate (developer)
2011-12-31 19:19

If anything I'd say having entry vaults that require a means of crossing deep water would be better than the same thing but inside the portal itself - once you've found and made it into the portal, it seems good to always let you (attempt to) clear the whole portal.

(0016553)
XuaXua (reporter)
2012-01-06 20:42

I agree with MarvinPA.

(0024247)
Kate (developer)
2013-10-26 01:06

_axe_3 no longer generates water at the entrace, _axe_4 now always provides either the ring or some potions of flight.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2011-12-30 19:09	odjn	New Issue
2011-12-30 20:06	neil	Note Added: 0016445
2011-12-31 00:44	evilmike	Note Added: 0016456
2011-12-31 00:53	dpeg	Note Added: 0016457
2011-12-31 17:15	minmay	Note Added: 0016461
2011-12-31 19:19	Kate	Note Added: 0016464
2012-01-06 20:42	XuaXua	Note Added: 0016553
2013-10-25 23:27	neil	Relationship added	related to 0007662
2013-10-26 01:06	Kate	Note Added: 0024247
2013-10-26 01:06	Kate	Status	new => resolved
2013-10-26 01:06	Kate	Fixed in Branch	=> 0.14 development branch
2013-10-26 01:06	Kate	Resolution	open => done
2013-10-26 01:06	Kate	Assigned To	=> Kate

Notes
(0016445) neil (administrator) 2011-12-30 20:06	Seems like there's a 6.5% chance of no levitation item in this bailey (there could be a ring instead of potions). bailey_axe_3 is even worse, with no levitation items and a rather high chance that the entry room will be cut off from the rest by deep water.

(0016456) evilmike (developer) 2011-12-31 00:44	Is this a bug or an intended feature of these maps? Might be worth changing either way, but I never thought of this as a bug. It's similar in principle to that overflow altar that is surrounded by water/lava.

(0016457) dpeg (administrator) 2011-12-31 00:53	It is intentional, although the status has been moving: originally, the river bailey gave you either potions or the ring. Then someone decided that we don't have to be that nice -- we can expect a bailey stormer to have one of blink, teleport, levitation. So it is not a bug but you can change status quo if you like.

(0016461) minmay (reporter) 2011-12-31 17:15	There's also a bailey entry vault which often requires a means of crossing deep water, but does not provide it.

(0016464) Kate (developer) 2011-12-31 19:19	If anything I'd say having entry vaults that require a means of crossing deep water would be better than the same thing but inside the portal itself - once you've found and made it into the portal, it seems good to always let you (attempt to) clear the whole portal.

(0016553) XuaXua (reporter) 2012-01-06 20:42	I agree with MarvinPA.

(0024247) Kate (developer) 2013-10-26 01:06	_axe_3 no longer generates water at the entrace, _axe_4 now always provides either the ring or some potions of flight.