0005049: On character creation it is [still] not obvious that grayed-out choices can be selected - Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup Tracker

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0005049

[DCSS] Documentation

minor

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2011-12-14 04:58

2014-05-20 01:07

Reporter

moxian

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public

Assigned To

wheals

Priority

normal

Resolution

done

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Local

Status

resolved

Operating System

Windows

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none

Console or Tiles

Both

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none

Fixed in Branch

0.15 ancient branch

Product Branch

0.9 ancient branch

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Summary

0005049: On character creation it is [still] not obvious that grayed-out choices can be selected

Description

Upon character selection some of the choices are grayed out, and it may be not obvious that can be chosen.

It was already mentioned in the usability project (https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:usability_project:report [^] p.1.7) and an improvement for it was "Now that they are mouse-selectable, this should be much more obvious. — jpeg". Except that it is not *much* more obvious - when hovering mouse over grayed items (or when selecting them with arrow keys in console version) their bprder/background is of different color, which may still suggest player, that the item can't be selected.

Now to the point: What about having a note "Greyed out choices are considered to be very difficult [and are not recommended]" at the top near "Please select your background" line?

It says what it means and doesn't leave the player clueless about why exactly some of them are grayed. There is plenty of empty space anyway, so it shouldn't hurt.

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(0016235) ion_frigate (reporter) 2011-12-14 07:44	How about dropping the greyed-out aspect altogether, and instead putting an asterisk next to recommended choices, with a note at the bottom saying "Recommended combos are marked with a *"? The fact is, if a choice is greyed out, there will always be players who will assume it's not available. Asterisks encourage people to read the fine print at the bottom.

(0016236) Galefury (updater) 2011-12-14 10:53 edited on: 2011-12-14 10:56	I think graying out the non-recommended choices works very well to make the recommended ones stand out. Much better than marking recommended choices with an asterisk. How about only graying out the class/race names, but not the letters for chosing them? Just mentioning what grayed out means would probably be sufficient, though. This should be done, whether anything else is changed or not.

(0026220) wheals (administrator) 2014-05-20 01:07	Hopefully not using the same colour for actually disallowed combos, in addition to the fact that a combo will sometimes be white and sometimes not, is now enough to make it clear that they can be selected.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2011-12-14 04:58	moxian	New Issue
2011-12-14 07:44	ion_frigate	Note Added: 0016235
2011-12-14 10:53	Galefury	Note Added: 0016236
2011-12-14 10:56	Galefury	Note Edited: 0016236
2014-05-20 01:07	wheals	Note Added: 0026220
2014-05-20 01:07	wheals	Status	new => resolved
2014-05-20 01:07	wheals	Fixed in Branch	=> 0.15 development branch
2014-05-20 01:07	wheals	Resolution	open => done
2014-05-20 01:07	wheals	Assigned To	=> wheals

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