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0002276 [DCSS] Bug Report trivial always 2010-08-14 03:44 2011-10-22 02:19
Reporter Slyboots View Status public  
Assigned To Kate
Priority normal Resolution no change required  
Status closed   Product Branch 0.7 ancient branch
Summary 0002276: Jiyva mechanics do not make sense.
Description If you are worshipping Jiyva and kill the Royal Jelly and then abandon him/her as a god, you are still punished (despite the fact that "it" does not have worshipers and should not exist (as if you simply killed the Royal jelly)

Its also to rejoin Jiyva after abandoing when by the game "lore" it should no-longer exist.

Trivial I know :D
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Tags Jiyva
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(0007204)
OG17 (reporter)
2010-08-14 04:39

The whole "Jiyva dying" thing is spoilery, nethackish, and adds nothing to the game. It's meaningless to a player that's planning on converting, as it's easier to reach the altar than it is to kill the royal jelly, and it's likewise meaningless to a player that's only there for the loot, as killing the royal jelly is infinitely preferable to switching gods and losing items. It's not like any normal character is ever going to weigh getting all of the loot against losing the chance to convert to Jiyva - the god's much too much of a gimmick for that. What's more, this doesn't even manage to follow its own flavor, as Jiyva dies even if the super-pious Dissolution is alive.

This mechanic is pure fluff and has no excuse to exist on any level, basically. It should be axed.
(0007207)
Lemuel (updater)
2010-08-14 05:28

Agree with OG17.

-1 to the evolution of Crawl from a tactical roguelike to an RPG. Gameplay yes, elaborate mythos no.
(0013943)
Kate (developer)
2011-07-21 20:29

This is intended, Jiyva is angry enough to inflict wrath on you before finally fading into non-existence or something like that.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-08-14 03:44 Slyboots New Issue
2010-08-14 04:39 OG17 Note Added: 0007204
2010-08-14 05:28 Lemuel Note Added: 0007207
2010-09-09 13:19 rob Tag Attached: Jiyva
2011-07-21 20:29 Kate Note Added: 0013943
2011-07-21 20:29 Kate Status new => resolved
2011-07-21 20:29 Kate Fixed in Branch => 0.9 development branch
2011-07-21 20:29 Kate Resolution open => no change required
2011-07-21 20:29 Kate Assigned To => Kate
2011-10-22 02:19 Kate Status resolved => closed


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