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13:54 < Henzell> MrPeeps the Stabber (L1 DSWr), slain by a hobgoblin on D:1, with 114 points after 379 turns and 0:02:08.
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13:56 < Henzell> Iaido the Nimble (L14 TrFi) reached level 4 of the Hive. (Hive:4)
13:56 < Anym> Yredelemnul: LinleyH?
13:57 < Yredelemnul> Yeah
13:59 < Henzell> goetter the Scorcher (L16 DrFE) entered the Vaults. (Vault:1)
13:59 < Henzell> Cyrus the Pyromancer (L20 DEFE) killed Polyphemus. (D:23)
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14:00 < Gretell> syllogism (L10 MDFi) entered the Lair of Beasts. (Lair:1)
14:00 < Anym> Yredelemnul: Welcome, then. I like Overgod. :-)
14:00 < Yredelemnul> Thanks!
14:01 < Yredelemnul> Although I've never managed to recapture the popularity of crawl
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14:01 < Yredelemnul> Actually I downloaded an IRC client for the first time in years and thought I'd have a look at this channel
14:01 < Anym> Yredelemnul: Well, I like Crawl more.
14:01 < Yredelemnul> I find it amusing that there's a bot called 'Henzell'
14:01 < Iainuki> Yredelemnul: :)
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14:02 < Anym> Yredelemnul: The other bot is called "Gretell".
14:03 < Yredelemnul> Anym: of course.
14:03 < Iainuki> Was that raxvulpine's pun?
14:03 < Henzell> MrPeeps the Ducker (L2 DSWr), slain by a kobold on D:1, with 144 points after 1834 turns and 0:09:02.
14:03 < Henzell> dumbhat the Skirmisher (L5 HuCK), worshipper of Xom, slain by an ogre (a +0,+0 giant club) on D:4, with 281 points after 2554 turns and 0:34:32.
14:04 < Henzell> MrPeeps the Ducker (L2 DSWr), slain by a kobold (a +1,+0 elven short sword) on D:1, with 85 points after 423 turns and 0:01:11.
14:05 < Iainuki> Yredelemnul: Anyway, I think I owe you a compliment for making the roguelike I've spent by far the most time on :).
14:05 < Zaba_> Napkin, you highlighted me? :>
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14:05 < Yredelemnul> Iainuki: No problem :)
14:05 < Anym> Yredelemnul: Do you follow Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup?
14:06 < Anym> Iainuki: No idea, I always assumed it was Napkin, but now that I think about it, raxvulpine seems just as likely (if not more).
14:06 < Yredelemnul> Anym: Sometimes I read the newsgroup
14:07 < Yredelemnul> Anym: I'm pretty impressed that anyone could even read my code, let alone make it so much better
14:07 < Henzell> MrPeeps the Stabber (L1 DSWr), slain by a hobgoblin on D:1, with 41 points after 40 turns and 0:02:46.
14:08 < Iainuki> It's too bad greensnark and some of the other members of the dev team aren't around :).
14:08 < passing_lunatic> I kinda like overgod too. And crawl, of course.
14:08 < Anym> Iainuki: Especially dpeg.
14:08 < jarpiain> !seen dpeg
14:08 < Henzell> I last saw dpeg at Wed Apr  2 00:08:57 2008 UTC (1d 10h 59m 56s ago) quitting with message "Lost terminal".
14:09 < passing_lunatic> well, we can hope he finds his terminal
14:09 < Yredelemnul> Oh well, I'll probably be back again
14:09 < ekiM> hail
14:09 < Yredelemnul> Hm, Giant?
14:09 < Yredelemnul> interesting...
14:10 < Anym> Yredelemnul: Don't play 4.1, play Stone Soup 0.3.4.
14:10 < ekiM> 4.1 is interesting!
14:10 < ekiM> in that it's like, not finished
14:10 < Yredelemnul> Anym: ah, now I see
14:10 < Henzell> ekiM the Swordfighter (L20 MDPa) reached level 5 of the Crypt. (Crypt:5)
14:11 < Iainuki> Yredelemnul: Was Overgod your two-pane shooter?
14:11 < ekiM> ahh.. shield of resistance!
14:11 < Iainuki> Brent's abomination :).
14:11 < ekiM> I was hoping for boots, but hey
14:11 < Yredelemnul> Iainuki: I think that was Excellent Bifurcation...
14:11 < Zaba> hrmm
14:11 < Yredelemnul> Iainuki: Overgod was more Asteroids-like
14:11 < Zaba> HP/MP bars and resting are broken
14:12 < Iainuki> Yredelemnul: Oh yes :).  A friend of mine showed me Excellent Bifurcation--I guess I'm not familiar with Overgod.
14:12 < Zaba> for example when MP restores fully and HP only partially, HP bar does not get updated
14:12 < passing_lunatic> zaba:yeah
14:12 < passing_lunatic> they update properly sometimes, but other times seem to lag a bit
14:12 < syllogism-> ?? cbus
14:12 < Henzell> cbus[1/2]: Made a nemelex spoiler for trunk, its currently out of date but its available at: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~salman/nemelex.txt  Also made a title spoiler available at: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~salman/titles.html
14:13 < Zaba> passing_lunatic, they are also no updated properly when something interrupts resting
14:13 < Zaba> it seems
14:13 < Anym> Yredelemnul: 4.1 was the last "alpha" release of the old devteam (mainly Brent at that time, I think), reknowned for its imbalance and unwinnability, Stone Soup is the actively developed variant, by an entirely new devteam, forked off 4.0, but incorporating some of the ideas of 4.1 in a more balanced fashion. (Sorry, if you know all that already.)
14:13 < Anym> Oh, Excellent Bifurcation I found totally unplayable. :-P
14:14 < Yredelemnul> Anym: You're certainly not alone
14:14 < Yredelemnul> Anym: It's supposed to be like that
14:15 < Iainuki> I'm sad I'm actually grateful for food shops this game.  Stupid being-a-troll-without-Necromutation-yet
14:15 < Iainuki> I'm beginning to wonder if I should switch deities.
14:16 < Anym> !cdo
14:16 < Henzell> 2 players: maniac (L2 SpWr @ D:1, T:289), syllogism (L11 MDFi @ Lair:4, T:16912)
14:16 < Anym> !players
14:16 < Henzell> 10 players: Anym, Cyrus, Iaido, Linley, MrPeeps, Shiori, Xares, ekiM, goetter, odd2k
14:16 < Anym> !whereis Iaido
14:16 < Henzell> Iaido the Nimble (L14 TrFi), a worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, is currently on Hive:4 after 35315 turns.
14:19 < ekiM> @? curse skull
14:19 < Gretell> Curse skull - Speed: 10 - Health: 66-66 - AC/EV: 40/3 - Flags: undead, evil, spellcaster, see invisible - Res: magic(immune), hellfire, cold, electricity, poison.
14:19 < Iainuki> Ugh, I guess it's time for my least favorite branch of all.
14:19 < ekiM> oh gosh, TSO is good against these guys
14:19 < Iainuki> ekiM: Yes :).
14:20 < MrPeeps> The orc priest prays.
14:20 < MrPeeps> You resist (whatever that was supposed to do).
14:20 < MrPeeps> what does that last part mean?
14:20 < jarpiain> ??cantrip
14:20 < Henzell> cantrip[1/1]: A do-nothing spell, used to water down especially nasty early spellcasters.
14:20 < MrPeeps> ah
14:20 < MrPeeps> strange I've never seen that before
14:20 < jarpiain> there are many possible messages
14:20 < MrPeeps> guess I've never been lucky enough to resist it
14:21 < ekiM> Left ring  : g - the ring "Ytuimyole" {hunger,+1damage}
14:21 < ekiM> impressive..
14:21 < Henzell> MrPeeps the Ducker (L4 DSWr), blasted by an orc priest (divine providence) on D:3, with 309 points after 3456 turns and 0:13:34.
14:21 < jarpiain> didn't resist that one :)
14:21 < MrPeeps> of course not :(
14:22 < Gretell> maniac the Charlatan (L3 SpWr), succumbed to poison on D:2, with 225 points after 1807 turns and 0:09:53.
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14:24 < Iainuki> Cantrips!
14:24 < dpeg> Hi folks
14:24 < Anym> Can I avoid being teleported by a teleport trap by initiating a teleport before stepping on it (thus having both telport cancel each other out)?
14:24 < Anym> Hi dpeg.
14:24 < jarpiain> Anym: no
14:24 < dpeg> Anym: I think so. Never tried it, though.
14:24 < dpeg> :)
14:24 < dpeg> FR?
14:24 < Anym> Oh, you should be.
14:24 < Henzell> MrPeeps the Stabber (L2 DSWr), slain by a hobgoblin on D:1, with 134 points after 966 turns and 0:03:03.
14:24 < Anym> My thoughts exactly.
14:26 < Iainuki> I wonder if I should animate skeleton to start training necromancy.  Quite possibly, I guess.
14:26 < MrPeeps> going for Troll of Death?
14:26 < Iainuki> MrPeeps: Indeed!  And I have a pile of acquirement scrolls burning a hole in my pocket.
14:27 < Napkin> moin guys
14:27 < Iainuki> Napkin: Good morning :).
14:27 < Henzell> Linley the Skirmisher (L3 DSCK), worshipper of Xom, succumbed to poison on D:3, with 166 points after 1476 turns and 0:16:13.
14:27 < Napkin> Iainuki :)
14:27 < Yredelemnul> Yep, just as hard as I remember it
14:27 < dpeg> Yredelemnul: is the nick fake or real?
14:27 < MrPeeps> hmm, war axe on D:2
14:28 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: Hi!
14:28 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: Yep, it's me
14:28 < Anym> Yredelemnul: Actually, the word is that it's gotten a bit wimpy  recently. ;-)
14:28 < dpeg> Hi! What do you think about the present stage?
14:28 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: looking good!
14:28 < dpeg> Many thanks.
14:28 < Yredelemnul> Although akrasiac is a little slow from Australia...
14:28 < Yredelemnul> Hey, thanks for taking over!
14:29 < Anym> Hi Napkin.
14:29 < dpeg> I am a non-coder but I did some design. I'm always happy to talk about the bigger picture :)
14:29 < Napkin> hey david, read the news on http://crawl.develz.org :)
14:29 < Napkin> hey Anym :)
14:29 < ekiM> jesus christ 1 summoning Liches are painful
14:30 < Anym> Napkin: Awesome!
14:30 < Iainuki> Yredelemnul: It's a pity.  Europe and the US are both pretty far from Australia, unfortunately.
14:30 < dpeg> Napkin: hey, it's not even tagged yet :)
14:31 < Zaba> mhm
14:31 < Zaba> ogres sometimes get confused only on the second MC
14:31 < dpeg> Zaba: the more usual complaint is that MC is too strong
14:31 < Yredelemnul> Iainuki: Oh well. Guess I'll download that latest version and have a look.
14:31 < Zaba> dpeg, well, it rarely kills, it only assists
14:31 < Zaba> :>
14:31 < Napkin> but so many cool changes, dpeg, and once again i can't play on the servers from here ;)
14:31 < dpeg> Yredelemnul: best to go with trunk (0.3 is ancient by today's standards :)(
14:32 < Zaba> dpeg, its effects, on higher levels, sometimes are overpowered, but early levels are quite fine IMO
14:32 < Anym> Yredelemnul: I find the lag to but much more tolerable when playing over SSH rather than Telnet (if you aren't already).
14:32 < ekiM> dpeg should it really say Your shield significantly reduces the effectiveness of your rod. ?
14:32 < ekiM> rods aren't for melee
14:32 < Iainuki> Eh.  Trunk lacks certain polish.
14:32 < dpeg> Yredelemnul: we randomly permuted the command keys and the monster colours, for example!
14:32 < Iainuki> ekiM: Rods are massively nerfed when using a shield.
14:32 < ekiM> really?
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14:32 < Anym> Yredelemnul: Don't listen to dpeg, play 0.3.4, trunk still has more than its share of rough edges.
14:32 < ekiM> guess I've been doing it wrong for quite a while then
14:33 < MrPeeps> oh god dammit
14:33 < MrPeeps> I find an ice dragon armor on D:3
14:33 < Iainuki> Yredelemnul: FWIW, you can use my macro and .crawlrc settings to pick up most of the monster color and command changes.
14:33 < dpeg> All these retro-gamers here :P
14:33 < MrPeeps> and literally two turns after equipping it an orc wizard shows up and flames me
14:33 < Henzell> Cyrus the Pyromancer (L21 DEFE) reached level 27 of the Dungeon. (D:27)
14:34 < zergloli> Trunk has rough edges, but is still decent, even for non-hackers.
14:34 < Napkin> btw, for some reason, the binary Keskitalo  compiled doesn't show healthbar and the health status of monsters
14:34 < zergloli> New key bindings and monster colors take some getting used to tho'.
14:34 < dpeg> I constantly encourage trunk to get some fe-heed-back.
14:34 < Napkin> is that disabled for win32?
14:34 < dpeg> no idea
14:34 < dpeg> perhaps he used a revision slightly older than that?
14:35 < ekiM> ok a plate mail of poison resistance and a shield of resistance.. not fancy, but I guess I can do Snake now
14:35 < Iainuki> Anym: There are a couple of things I might want to tweak in the glyphs--I want to do some more testing before writing up, though.
14:35 < dpeg> ekiM: shield of resistance & not fancy don't mix
14:35 < ekiM> ok, the shield is good :D
14:35 < ekiM> robe of resistance too.. I always find these guys when playing heavy armour
14:35 < Gretell> maniac (L4 SpWr) killed Ijyb. (D:3)
14:36 < Anym> Iainuki: Sure, go ahead. I'm not happy with the colours of bats and quokkas myself.
14:36 < ekiM> do Liches get different spellbooks?
14:37 < ekiM> sometimes they seem weedy, other times they summon '1' every turn and it's total hell
14:37 < Jeff_> yes
14:37 < Napkin> no, he compiled 4046, while on CDO it's 4044 (and showing up)
14:37 < Jeff_> some just summon undead, others 1s, other iron botl the shit out of you etc
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14:37 < Jeff_> :P
14:38 < ekiM> is it much worth enchanting a shield?
14:38 < Anym> Iainuki: Although I don't consider myself to be the the official glyphs representative. I just made a proposal for changes, these got accepted (with some minor modifications), so now it's back to the devs again. ;-)
14:38 < Jeff_> !whereis ekiM
14:38 < Henzell> ekiM the Swordfighter (L20 MDPa), a worshipper of The Shining One, is currently in Temple after 98229 turns.
14:38 < Iainuki> Anym: Quokkas were on my list, actually :).  Bats I don't mind.
14:38 < Jeff_> Probably shield enchantment will make more of a difference than armour for a heavy armour MD
14:38 < Jeff_> but I am no expert
14:38 < Henzell> goetter the Scorcher (L17 DrFE) entered the Elven Halls. (Elf:1)
14:39 < ekiM> shields go to 2 right?
14:39 < Jeff_> yea
14:39 < ekiM> oke
14:39 < Anym> Iainuki: Yeah, jpeg is to blame for the quokkas. I wanted them to be yellow. :-P
14:39 < zergloli> I like enchanted bucklers for my buff-casters.
14:39 < ekiM> this shield of resistance is definitely going to stick with me so I guess I will enchant it now
14:39 < Iainuki> Anym: :)
14:39 < Jeff_> shield of resistance rawks 
14:39 < Gretell> syllogism (L12 MDFi) is cast into the Abyss! (a Zot trap) (Lair:7)
14:39 < ekiM> haven't even found boots yet :[
14:39 < Iainuki> ekiM: As a dwarf, I don't see any reason *not* to enchant a shield of resistance to +2.
14:40 < dpeg> My main gripe is orcs and orc wizards (red and magenta). Hard to distinguish for me.
14:40 < Gretell> syllogism (L12 MDFi) escaped from the Abyss!
14:40 < Anym> dpeg: You don't *have* to use the defaults, you know? ;-)
14:40 < dpeg> Anym: I believe that the defaults must be good for everyone :)
14:40 < Iainuki> Anym: dpeg isn't allowed to use anything but the defaults :).
14:40 < dpeg> yes
14:40 < Iainuki> There's actually special code in the game to ignore his settings.
14:41 < Anym> dpeg: Well, in that case we need to get rid of blue and of magenta and maybe more. :-P
14:42 < dpeg> Anym: not sure. It is peculiar to the orc bands, I hope.
14:42 < Gretell> maniac the Charlatan (L5 SpWr), slain by a giant ant on D:4, with 352 points after 3056 turns and 0:18:58.
14:42 < Henzell> MrPeeps the Chopper (L5 DSWr) killed the ghost of coweater the Footpad, an average SpAs. (D:4)
14:42 < Anym> I thought dpeg used non-default abominations like delay_message_clear.
14:43 < dpeg> Anym: only in the hope of making them standard one day. 
14:43 < dpeg> Will only work when Darshan is not looking, of course.
14:43 < Zaba> hmm
14:43 < Anym> I'm with Darshan on that one.
14:43 < dpeg> I succeeded with making greedy_explore from my personal default to standard already.
14:43 < Zaba> dpeg, why aren't chunks handled as normal food items and are prompted for on 'e' when carrying one?
14:43 < dpeg> Zaba: no idea :)
14:44 < syllogism-> should "examine" key while looking around with "x" be binded to something different now
14:44 < syllogism-> maybe x again?
14:44 < Iainuki> Zaba: Lua?  Are you including eat.lua?
14:44 < Anym> dpeg: Using non-greedy auto-explore makes no sense to me.
14:44 < dpeg> Anym: I think it's a shame to not fully use the message area 
14:44 < Zaba> Leissi, probably yes
14:44 < Zaba> er
14:44 < Henzell> Jeff the Nimble (L20 KoAs) killed Boris. (Vault:3)
14:44 < Napkin> hey dpeg ? I'd like to suggest mlist_force_inline = true as default
14:44 < Zaba> Iainuki, ^
14:44 < ekiM> heh. of course after avoiding snake for aeons looking for poison resisant kit, what do I find on Snake:1? =oPR. perfect.
14:44 < Jeff_> *Heart Races*
14:44 < dpeg> syllogism-: I want xx to give a detailed list of monsters around
14:44 < Jeff_> :o
14:44 < Zaba> Napkin, ack
14:44 < Jeff_> Boris with 140 hp
14:44 < Jeff_> scary
14:44 < Napkin> having it on the left of the playfield for bigger terminals just looks weird imo
14:44 < Iainuki> Zaba: That's what does it.
14:45 < Zaba> Iainuki, aha, ok
14:45 < syllogism-> heh
14:45 < syllogism-> I'm asleep with monsters all around me :o
14:45 < syllogism-> mostly friendly though
14:45 < Anym> dpeg: I am using it fully. It tells me everything that happened this turn. Anything more (from previous turns) is unnecesary (potentially harmful) clutter. ;-)
14:46 < Zaba> is there somewhere a crawl lua api reference?
14:46 < Gretell> syllogism (L12 MDFi) killed the ghost of maniac the Dodger, a powerful SpWr. (Lair:6)
14:46 < dpeg> Anym: we'll see. It is not perfect atm (hence not standard) but it sure has potential.
14:46 < dpeg> Zaba: read the later parts of the options guide?
14:47 < Anym> dpeg: Maybe it would be tolerable if messages were limit to the lighter eight colours and older messages were shifted to the darker hue.
14:49 < Iainuki> I hate the Swamp so much.
14:49 < dpeg> Iainuki: don't set foot in it!
14:49 < dpeg> Anym: or we show all older messages in grey/darkgrey?
14:49 < Jeff_> I hate the abyss
14:49 < Jeff_> :P
14:49 < Jeff_> what's my answer? hehe
14:50 < Anym> dpeg: That doesn't tell you which Lua functions are actually available, though, does it?
14:50 < dpeg> Zaba: cannot check atm,  sorry
14:50 < Iainuki> dpeg: Where else should I go :P?
14:50 < dpeg> Jeff_: the Abyss is a great branch, that's the answer. Always worth a visit.
14:50 < Anym> dpeg: Well, more messages are grey. Darkgreying them might or might now work.
14:51 < Anym> However, I never had any problems with delay_message_clear = false and occassionally using Ctrl+P if I really missed something.
14:51 < Jeff_> lolol
14:51 < Jeff_> It is a great branch.
14:51 < Jeff_> I hate it though.
14:51 < Napkin> Zaba? you compiled trunk for win32, didn't you?
14:52 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: the Abyss is a happy place
14:52 < dpeg> I always loved it a lot. Lugonu-a-lot, that is :)
14:52 < dpeg> Yredelemnul: you encountered Lugo?
14:52 < dpeg> Lugonu
14:52 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: No, not yet
14:52 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: What does Lugonu do?
14:53 < Jeff_> gets you illed by your real god
14:53 < Henzell> dumbhat the Martial Artist (L3 SETm), slain by Terence (a +0,+0 halberd) on D:3, with 106 points after 1440 turns and 0:19:35.
14:53 < dpeg> Yredelemnul: the abyssical god. Has altars down there all over the place.
14:53 < dpeg> Let's you escape the Abyss in the name of a Real God :)
14:54 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: and requires conversion?
14:54 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: cruel.
14:54 < dpeg> Yredelemnul: it lets you get out alive :)
14:54 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: by the way, has anyone ever noticed the Abyss wrapping around?
14:54 < dpeg> And I died once to not taking up Lugonu.
14:54 < dpeg> Yredelemnul: yes
14:55 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: I've read in a number of times that it does
14:55 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: it wasn't supposed to :)
14:55 < dpeg> Yredelemnul: oh -- what was the intention?
14:55 < Henzell> MrPeeps the Chopper (L8 DSWr) is cast into the Abyss! (D:5)
14:55 < dpeg> unlimited field?
14:55 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: it was supposed to extend infinitely in all directions
14:55 < dpeg> Which would be cooler, I admit.
14:56 < dpeg> I thought the torus-Abyss was due to technical limitations.
14:56 < Henzell> Xares the Caller (L4 DESu), succumbed to poison on D:3, with 228 points after 3519 turns and 2:33:47.
14:56 < Henzell> MrPeeps the Chopper (L8 DSWr) escaped from the Abyss!
14:56 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: it kept the player in the middle; if s/he went too far towards the edges it would recenter the map on the player's location and generate new surroundings beyond the player's line of sight
14:56 < MrPeeps> finally!
14:56 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: it's possible I did it wrong, though
14:56 < jarpiain> !whereis MrPeeps
14:56 < Henzell> MrPeeps the Chopper (L8 DSWr), a worshipper of Lugonu, is currently on D:5 after 7017 turns.
14:56 < dpeg> Yredelemnul: good to know. I'll add a Feature Request on this.
14:57 < dpeg> MrPeeps: which god before?
14:57 < MrPeeps> none
14:57 < dpeg> cool
14:57 < MrPeeps> I started this character with the intention of going Lugonu
14:57 < dpeg> even better
14:57 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: Well, if the new way works fine there's no reason to change it:)
14:57 < zergloli> Hey could we get interrupts when a corpse rots as you are 'D'issecting it?
14:57 < Gretell> syllogism (L12 MDFi) reached level 10 of the Lair of Beasts. (Lair:10)
14:57 < Anym> MrPeeps: Miscast self banishment?
14:57 < dpeg> Yredelemnul: you're the grand old man of this game :)
14:57 < zergloli> My transmuters have a totally different use for rotten corpses...
14:57 < MrPeeps> splint mail + blink
14:58 < MrPeeps> couldn't find heavy enough armor till D:5
14:58 < jarpiain> dpeg: by the way, is there an option for vampires to get chunks instead of blood from corpses?
14:58 < jarpiain> the 'c' command is somewhat confusing
14:58 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: ha
14:58 < Iainuki> Yredelemnul: I'm glad to know the Abyss should work the way I think it should work :).
14:59 < Jeff_> I thought it wrapped around but some people insist it doesn't
14:59 < dpeg> jarpiain: I am discussing this with jpeg right now 
14:59 < Yredelemnul> dpeg: strange
14:59 < dpeg> Yredelemnul: what is strange?
15:00 < Yredelemnul> confusion over how the Abyss works:)
15:00 < Gretell> maniac (L4 SpWr) killed Sigmund. (D:4)
15:00 < Yredelemnul> Maybe it is just different things to different people:)
15:00 < Zaba> hrmm
15:00 < Zaba> seems like menu_colouring on spell does not work :<
15:01 < jarpiain> sometimes it's obvious that you see the same altar many times
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15:02 < Iainuki> syllogism-: Did you stick with Neme for your trollich?
15:02 -!- Leissi_ is now known as Leissi
15:03 < raxvulpine> Trollich?
15:03 < Henzell> raxvulpine: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
15:03 < raxvulpine> !messages
15:03 < Henzell> (1/1) sorear said (8h 10m 21s ago): ??ssh[2], if you want to steal any of that for the documentation
15:03 < raxvulpine> ??ssh[2]
15:03 < Henzell> ssh[2/2]: Are you on *NIX and tired of entering passwords for the main SSH login?  Copy sorears $HOME/.ssh/config !  http://members.cox.net/stefanor/config
15:03 < Iainuki> raxvulpine: Troll in lichform, or that's the plan, at least ;).
15:03 < Anym> Zaba: What spell?
15:04 < Yredelemnul> Iainuki: can trolls do that??
15:04 < raxvulpine> Holy crap there's a god on channel!
15:04 < Iainuki> Yredelemnul: They can, though it takes some work :).
15:04 < Zaba> Anym, spell screen
15:04 < Zaba> Anym, menu_colour = spell:lightgreen:Excellent
15:04 < Zaba> or so
15:04 < Napkin> hehe, hi rax :)
15:04 < Anym> Ah, OK.
15:04 < Zaba> and even .* does not affect anything
15:04 < Zaba> >,>
15:05 < Anym> Hi raxvulpine.
15:05 < Jeff_> !dump
15:05 < Henzell> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Jeff/Jeff.txt
15:05 < Gretell> maniac (L6 SpWr) killed Ijyb. (D:4)
15:05 < raxvulpine> Hello!
15:05 < Anym> !hs * -sk=Necromancy -race=Troll
15:05 < Henzell> 1. sorear the Necromancer (L20 TrFi), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, blasted by a deep elf annihilator (poison arrow) on Elf:7 on 2008-03-03, with 317626 points after 91198 turns and 13:57:59.
15:05 < Zaba> yeah, .* does not affect anything *ponders*
15:05 < Anym> Ah, damn. We need @listgame.
15:06 < Anym> Zaba: On CDO?
15:06 < dpeg> Zaba: you're probably the first one to test it. Please file.
15:06 < Zaba> Anym, no
15:06 < Iainuki> !listgame * -max=sc -char=TrFi -god=Nemelex
15:06 < Henzell> No games for * (-max=sc -char=TrFi -god=Nemelex).
15:06 < Zaba> Anym, local trunk
15:06 < Napkin> zaba, are you sure "spell" is a channel?
15:06 < Iainuki> !listgame * -max=sc -char=TrFi -god=Neme
15:06 < Henzell> No games for * (-max=sc -char=TrFi -god=Neme).
15:06 < Iainuki> ?? listgame[2]
15:06 < Henzell> listgame[2/3]: Further selectors: ktyp (cause of death), killer (monster that whacked you), kaux (really miscellaneous miscellaneous), tmsg, vmsg, god.
15:06 < Zaba> Napkin, I read options guide and see it can be used
15:06 < jarpiain> !listgame * -max=sc -race=Troll -god=~Nemelex
15:06 < Henzell> 93. MadDasher the Wrestler (L21 TrFi), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, blasted by a hellion (burst of hellfire) on Elf:7 on 2008-02-16, with 434509 points after 104141 turns and 11:07:55.
15:06 < Anym> Zaba: Did you enable regular expressions in your build?
15:06 < Napkin> i only see "monster_spell" in the options_guide
15:06 < Iainuki> Ah.  It doesn't pattern match, in other words :).
15:06 < Zaba> Anym, PCRE, yes
15:07 < Zaba> (and yes I link against it)
15:07 < Iainuki> !listgame * -1 -max=sc -char=TrFi -god=~Neme
15:07 < Henzell> 93. MadDasher the Wrestler (L21 TrFi), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, blasted by a hellion (burst of hellfire) on Elf:7 on 2008-02-16, with 434509 points after 104141 turns and 11:07:55.
15:07 < Iainuki> !listgame * -2 -max=sc -char=TrFi -god=~Neme
15:07 < Henzell> 92. Iaido the Brawler (L20 TrFi), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, blasted by a deep elf knight (magic dart) on Elf:5 on 2008-01-12, with 333789 points after 77147 turns and 11:59:54.
15:07 < Henzell> MrPeeps the Chopper (L8 DSWr) killed Sigmund. (D:4)
15:08 < Gretell> syllogism (L13 MDFi) entered the Orcish Mines. (Orc:1)
15:09 < Keskitalo> Napkin: I think the revision is a few commits older.
15:09 < Napkin> hmmm
15:10 < Napkin> cdo has 4044, your binary is 4046; it works on cdo
15:11 < Gretell> syllogism (L13 MDFi) reached level 4 of the Orcish Mines. (Orc:4)
15:11 < zergloli> @?necrophage
15:11 < Gretell> Necrophage - Speed: 10 - Health: 15-40 - AC/EV: 2/10 - Damage: 8(rot) - Flags: undead, evil - Res: magic(33), cold, poison - Chunks: hydrochloric acid.
15:12 < Zaba> Napkin, 4058 here
15:12 -!- gimbal_machine [n=ncampion@nat/ibm/x-bcd1198d573e0aec] has joined ##crawl
15:12 < Keskitalo> Napkin: Oh. Hmm.
15:12 < MrPeeps> holy crap, in exactly 2 invocations I've reached skill level 2
15:13 < dpeg> MrPeeps: corrupt the dungeon!
15:13 -!- Sose_ [n=sose@85-23-30-79-Torikatu-TR1.suomi.net] has joined ##crawl
15:13 < MrPeeps> not enough piety!
15:13 < jarpiain> !apt DS SK_INVOCATION
15:13 < Henzell> Invalid skill.
15:13 < jarpiain> !apt DS SK_INVOCATIONS
15:13 < Napkin> i submitted a bug report, Keskitalo, let's see
15:13 < Henzell> DS (SK_INVOCATIONS)=60!
15:13 < dpeg> raxvulpine: thanks a lot for your good gods help.
15:13 < MrPeeps> 4 more to reach skill 3
15:13 < dpeg> MrPeeps: are you banishing monsters already?
15:14 < MrPeeps> I just got the blink ability
15:15 < Napkin> can anyone enlighten me and Keskitalo how to create windows binaries linked against PCRE ?
15:15 -!- Sose [n=sose@85-23-27-181-Torikatu-TR1.suomi.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
15:16 < raxvulpine> dpeg: No problem. I still want to get to other text (priest titles and monster descriptions) but those take more time than a sentence.
15:17 < Keskitalo> Yredelemnul: Hi Linley! Any hope for a "proper" Win32 version of Lacewing? ;)
15:17 < Gretell> syllogism (L13 MDFi) killed the ghost of sorear the Hacker, a powerful MiBe. (Orc:4)
15:18 < Napkin> oh, hey rax? could you pass me the public key of the private ssh key you have posted on your akrasiac's website?
15:18 < syllogism-> two zaps of /olightning :P
15:18 < Yredelemnul> Keskitalo: ha!
15:18 < Yredelemnul> Keskitalo: to be honest I don't know how
15:18 < raxvulpine> Napkin: Umm, sure! Do you happen to know offhand where I would have put it? :)
15:19 < Zaba> hrmm
15:19 < Napkin> in ~joshua/.ssh/authorized_keys probably
15:19 < Zaba> it *is* supposed to work
15:19 < MrPeeps> this char is pretty ridiculous
15:20 < MrPeeps> 16 AC/18 EV, +2,+1 vorpal longsword at level 9
15:20 < MrPeeps> plus the RMsl DS mut
15:20 < raxvulpine> Napkin: Got it, I'll mail it to you.
15:21 < Napkin> dpeg, could you ask jpeg how to create mingw binaries linked against PCRE?
15:21 < Napkin> cool, thanks, raxvulpine
15:21 < Napkin> i'll allow access with it to CDO as well
15:21 < Henzell> 78291 the Black Belt (L10 MDMo) killed the ghost of splat the Charlatan, a weakling SpWr. (D:10)
15:22 < Keskitalo> Yredelemnul: I've tinkered with the idea of trying to do that.. I really really like that game.
15:22 < dpeg> Napkin: yes, but it will slow down progress on the vampires a bit .)
15:22 < jarpiain> The uncursed ring of Anxiety {+fire, ins, RP, +life, MR, invis}
15:22 < jarpiain> 1795 gold
15:22 < syllogism-> is that the same game
15:22 < jarpiain> yes :)
15:22 < Jeff_> wasp: Please leave some rings for the rest of us.
15:22 < jarpiain> hehe
15:22 < syllogism-> too much overlap! :P
15:22 < syllogism-> worthless!
15:22 < jarpiain> already have a better ring!
15:22 < Jeff_> lolol
15:23 < Yredelemnul> Keskitalo: there's got to be some easy way to do it... that console window is a little annoying:)
15:23 < Iainuki> jarpiain: Which rings are you wearing?
15:23 < Keskitalo> Yredelemnul: I like it more than Overgod, although when I recently tried Overgod the second time I did enjoy it. Lacewing's system feels easier to understand, and Overgod seems to arbitarily throw impossible levels at you.
15:23 < Jeff_> Yredelemnul: You are Linley? Thanks for a great game. :)
15:23 < jarpiain> g - the ring of Inou {++fire +pois ins +L ++stealth blink}
15:23 < Keskitalo> Or maybe I just suck at it. :P
15:24 < Iainuki> jarpiain: Wow that one's even more ridiculous.
15:24 < jarpiain> Best. Ring. Ever.
15:24 < Keskitalo> Yredelemnul: Oh, oh, oh, I also like Garden of Coloured Lights very very much.
15:24 -!- Yredelemnul is now known as linley
15:24 < Henzell> MrPeeps the Chopper (L9 DSWr) killed Erolcha. (D:9)
15:24 -!- linley is now known as LinleyH
15:24 < raxvulpine> Whoah! Yes, thank you, Linley.
15:24 < syllogism-> dpeg: will monster submerge code be tweaked for 0.4?
15:24 < LinleyH> Thanks!
15:25 < Keskitalo> I've got 4303 points at normal. Tooth of Xom is the way to go.
15:25 < Keskitalo> ..or was it Nail of Xom..
15:25 < zergloli> Woah. Linley!
15:26 < MrPeeps> !dump
15:26 < Henzell> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/MrPeeps/MrPeeps.txt
15:26 < Leissi> :o
15:26 < Leissi> linley henzell, eh?
15:26  * Leissi screams and faints
15:27 < Anym> Here we go... :-P
15:27 < LinleyH> Keskitalo: it's the Tooth
15:27 < Henzell> DrPraetor the Conjurer (L7 DECj), collapsed under their own weight in the Temple, with 1223 points after 7185 turns and 0:25:48.
15:27 < Iainuki> I love finding shops I can't use!
15:27 < Leissi> Iainuki, :D
15:27 < LinleyH> Keskitalo: my next game will have other parts of Xom in it as well
15:27 < DrPraetor> Heh.
15:27 < raxvulpine> Iainuki: Are there other kinds of shop? :)
15:28 < Jeff_> that'd never happen to MiBe ;P
15:28 < zergloli> Xom is famous.
15:28 < Leissi> LinleyH, thank you for creating Crawl, since it gives great entertainment to us
15:28 < Leissi> there
15:28 < Iainuki> raxvulpine: Hey, I would have preferred another food shop to this useless antique armor shop :).
15:28 < Leissi> fandom done, now where's the cake
15:28 < dpeg> LinleyH: other games have been incorporating Xom, too :)
15:28 < raxvulpine> !whereis Iaido
15:28 < Henzell> Iaido the Nimble (L14 TrFi), a worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, is currently on Swamp:4 after 41005 turns.
15:28 < raxvulpine> Ahhh, yeah, that will do it.
15:28 < LinleyH> Leissi: thank you!
15:28 < LinleyH> Leissi: i would also like cake if you have some
15:28 < raxvulpine> I got tons of armor shops as an OMTm, too :)
15:28 < zergloli> (the cake is a lie)
15:29 < raxvulpine> Cake over IP remains elusive.
15:29 < LinleyH> dpeg: where else is Xom?? That's funny
15:29 < Leissi> zergloli, no it's not
15:29 < raxvulpine> POWDER has a Xom, no?
15:29 < dpeg> LinleyH: Jeff Lait and POWDER
15:30 < dpeg> (Jeff is the coder of POWDER)
15:30 < Zaba> POWDER?
15:30 < LinleyH> dpeg: Ah, cool
15:30 < dpeg> jpeg claims not be knowledgeable about the win + PCRE stuff. Sorry :/
15:30 < Henzell> 78291 the Black Belt (L10 MDMo) entered the Lair of Beasts. (Lair:1)
15:31 < Anym> Jeff_: Oh, you're that Jeff? Thanks for making a great game, too.
15:31 < MrPeeps> oh yeah, Linley, thanks for making the best roguelike ever
15:31 < Jeff_> No, I'm not. lol
15:31 < dpeg> Quick poll on two competing descriptions for the good god clause:
15:31 < dpeg> a) "Zin's followers can safely convert to other good gods."
15:31 < dpeg> b) "Zin, a good god, allows followers to convert to other good gods."
15:32 < dpeg> LinleyH: don't let them fool you. Developers past and present are usually cursed at this place.
15:32 < Zaba> hmm.. safely sounds like it'd be unsafe (buggy, untested, with race conditions) otherwise
15:32 < Anym> dpeg: Well, a doesn't include the information that Zin is a good god and so TSO's and Ely's probably wouldn't either, so how would you know what is a good god.
15:32 < Zaba> using gets()
15:32 < Zaba> :<
15:33 < zergloli> dpeg: same diff, except bottom says "good"?
15:33 < Anym> dpeg: I suggest: "Zin, claiming to be a good god, allows followers to convert to other so-called ood gods."
15:33 < raxvulpine> The first uses the clause "other good gods" to imply that Zin is a good god.
15:33 < zergloli> Anym: "claiming"?
15:33 < Anym> dpeg: And I'm only half kidding.
15:33 < dpeg> Anym: yes, a) relies on the other text stating the "good god" bit.
15:34 < dpeg> or what raxvulpine says
15:34 < dpeg> zergloli: Anym is bitter at DS not being able to go with good gods :)
15:34 < zergloli> the line between "other good gods" and "other, good gods" is too thin.
15:34 < Anym> zergloli: I've long been opposed to labeling gods as "good" or "evil", but I'm a minority.
15:34 < dpeg> Anym: a 1-person minority to boot! (a joke)
15:34 < DrPraetor> I think "evil" and "not-so-evil" is acceptable :)
15:34 < zergloli> do not rely on subordinate clauses which UTTERLY change meaning due to a single comma
15:34 < Anym> zergloli: Especially as all Crawl player characters are pretty much homicidal maniacs.
15:35 < Anym> dpeg: I deserve special protection!
15:35 < DrPraetor> I mean, there's not a lot of moral ambiguity around Mekhleb .
15:35 < LinleyH> Anym: yeah, the 'evil' ones are pretty evil but I always thought of Zin as kind of a jealous old-testament-style god
15:35 < Jeff_> Nah, if everything was friendly I'd walk right up to the orb and leave, Anym.
15:35 < LinleyH> Anym: which is not necessarily good
15:35 < Jeff_> They attack me
15:35 < zergloli> Old testament god is Good. It says so in the Bible, and is therefore true.
15:35 < dpeg> LinleyH: we have completely redone TSO and Zin for 0.4.
15:36 < DrPraetor> Do they smite you with emerods?
15:36 < Anym> Jeff_: So, I assume you don't go to the place's where the Orcs and Elves live (who don't have a rune, you don't use that for defense) and slaughter them all?
15:36 < dpeg> Anym: we could package a special DCSS-Anym-edition with individual god texts 
15:36 < Zaba> there are so much evil gods and just a bit of good
15:36 < Jeff_> Hey,  I was just sightseeing, Anym
15:36 < Zaba> and sif muna is neither
15:36 < Jeff_> I didn't see nay signs that say I was banned
15:36 < zergloli> We could also label TSO, Zin and Elyvilon as "Alliance", and label Makhleb, Yred and Kiku as "Horde".
15:36 < Jeff_> Again, all self defense
15:36 < zergloli> Then there's no good-vs.-evil.
15:36 < DrPraetor> How about "Law" and "Chaos".
15:36 < Jeff_> although it gets a bit hard to justify the rampant stabbing in my latest game
15:36 < Jeff_> :P
15:37 < Anym> Jeff_: You were trespassing, they were perfectly justified to attack you.
15:37 < zergloli> Dungeon was unlocked, not trespassing in the least!
15:37 < Anym> DrPraetor: Are you kidding?
15:37 < raxvulpine> "Things should be dead" vs "Things should be undead"
15:37 < Zaba> lol raxvulpine 
15:37 < DrPraetor> The rats are the good guys. They know they have no chance of victory, but they bravely stand against the knife-wielding pointy-eared maniac wandering around killing their flat-mates.
15:37 < LinleyH> dpeg: good! it needed to be done.
15:37 < Jeff_> !killsby rat
15:37 < Henzell> 955 kills by a rat. Most frequent: 34x mr0t(3.56%) 29x Tambo(3.04%) 25x chilliwack(2.62%) 25x ghira(2.62%) 22x murklins(2.30%) 22x nogglebeak(2.30%) 21x heteroy(2.20%) 20x Archibald(2.09%) 14x aristotle(1.47%) 14x cbus(1.47%) 
15:38 < Anym> dpeg: Well, I think the "other" doesn't make it clear enough, so I prefer b).
15:38 < Jeff_> don't underestimate them
15:38 < zergloli> Those rat bastards!
15:38 < LinleyH> dpeg: I have to admit that I found playing the "good" gods boring, so I never bothered to really implement them properly
15:38 < Jeff_> almost 1000 kills
15:38 < LinleyH> dpeg: It was much more fun to add behaviours to Xom:)
15:38 < Iainuki> LinleyH: :)
15:38 < dpeg> LinleyH: currently, Zin is a rather introverted god, focusing on the followers' inner self. TSO is the standard battle-evil god. Elyvilon now allows a bit of doing the pacifism thing (still under testing).
15:39 < Henzell> wasp the Shifter (L17 SpWr) reached level 7 of the Elven Halls. (Elf:7)
15:39 < dpeg> LinleyH: heh :) I hope we made the good gods a bit more interesting now.
15:39 < LinleyH> dpeg: sounds good!
15:39  * Zaba should try various religions in wiz mode
15:39 < Anym> dpeg: And playable DSHe!
15:39 < raxvulpine> Whoah, low-level for Elf:7! *tunes in*
15:39 < jarpiain> the gauntlet
15:39 < jarpiain> no lev, can't do it now
15:39 < Jeff_> Blink
15:39 < Jeff_> :x
15:39 < Anym> zergloli: What comma?
15:40 < jarpiain> no random blink thx
15:40 < Jeff_> hehehe
15:40 < zergloli> "other good gods" vs. "other, good gods"
15:40 < zergloli> opposite meaning
15:40 -!- __daf [n=daf@63.114.108.75] has joined ##crawl
15:40 < Anym> zergloli: Hehe.
15:40 < DrPraetor> I was kidding, but if this is a problem, use Law and Chaos. That's why people made the terms up, and they have a proud history in DND.
15:40 -!- __daf is now known as concept_
15:41 < zergloli> I still like "Alliance" vs. "Horde"... the evil gods do tend to give you hordes of followers, by demonic summoners or by undead legions.
15:41 < zergloli> (unless it'd get you guys sued)
15:41 < Anym> LinleyH: Note that the new and improved TSO and Zin aren't in 0.3.4, but only in trunk at the moment. 0.3.4 already had new and improved (?) versions of Trog, Nemelex and Xom, tough IIRC. And of course, two new, non-Temple gods.
15:42  * DrPraetor praises Beogh.
15:42 < raxvulpine> New Trog rocks the party that rocks the party.
15:42 < ekiM> Followers of Zin are free to convert to other Gods allied against evil.
15:42 < DrPraetor> He brings the party with him and he mutilates the corpss when he leaves.
15:43 < ekiM> in the fight
15:43 < dpeg> You know, i want the clause to be short :)
15:43 < ekiM> ain't no part like a book burning party
15:43 < ekiM> y
15:43 < DrPraetor> "Followers of Zin are free to convert to allied Gods."
15:43 < dpeg> Anym: which changes were not improvements, in your opinion?
15:43 < Anym> dpeg: Zin <3 TSO
15:43 < LinleyH> dpeg: I like that one.
15:43 < dpeg> Anym: the old ones?
15:44 < dpeg> LinleyH: which one? It's so busy in here :)
15:44 < dpeg> Gotta do some work, actually, too...
15:44 < Anym> dpeg: None. I just haven't played much of new Xom and new Nemelex and even less of their old incarnations to judge whether they were improved or not.
15:44 < DrPraetor> Is LinleyH the Linley that wrote this game originally?
15:44 < LinleyH> dpeg: sorry, 'Followers of Zin are free to convert to other Gods allied against evil.'
15:44 < raxvulpine> I think new Nelemex was improved but still needs work, personall, but I've talked to you about that already, dpeg. :)
15:44 < LinleyH> DrPraetor: A long, long time ago
15:44 < dpeg> Let me check if that fits on one line...
15:44 < ekiM> gosh, approval from God :-)
15:45 < dpeg> raxvulpine: Haran will do something prior to 0.4. Anything special you want?
15:45 < LinleyH> dpeg: do you still have to wield cards to use them?
15:45 < dpeg> 71 characters, sounds fine
15:45 < LinleyH> dpeg: that was a mistake.
15:45 < dpeg> LinleyH: no
15:45 < dpeg> and you sac by 'p'raying
15:45 < Anym> dpeg: And I hear on IRC that both new Xom and new Nemelex could still use some finishing touches. No idea what they were like before, though.
15:46 < dpeg> and you get abilities to manipulate decks
15:46 < dpeg> and the effects are almost all different :)
15:46 < ekiM> Nemelex is the card sharp God
15:46 < raxvulpine> dpeg: The short version is "I was unable to get anywhere without spoilers even after playing a bunch of Nemelex games."
15:46 < Anym> dpeg: For once, I didn't mean to imply criticism, but only unfamiliarity with the subject. ;-)
15:46 < dpeg> raxvulpine: oh. at least bits of that are tackled for quite some time
15:46 < raxvulpine> I think it would be good for there to be more information about cards when you use or identify them.
15:46 < LinleyH> dpeg: sounds good! I might try a Nemelex character
15:46 < raxvulpine> I'm not surprised, I just haven't played Trunk at all to know. :)
15:46 < dpeg> LinleyH: please wait or use trunk :)
15:47 < Anym> DrPraetor: Yes. Or at least he claims to be and so far, I believe him and see no reason not.
15:47 < raxvulpine> You're just saying that because you're a dev, 0.3.4 is fine :)
15:47 < DrPraetor> Simptipus, the Pimp God. Gain piety by enchanting (confusing, paralyzing, etc.) enemies. He rewards you with randart jewelry, cloaks and caps, but nothing else.
15:47 < dpeg> Anym: there were some substantial hints he is the one.
15:48 < kats2> DrPraetor: and gold ;P
15:48 < kats2> but not much gold ;)
15:48 < MrPeeps> that would actually be pretty good for SpEn, DrPraetor
15:48 < dpeg> raxvulpine: yeah, I have to say that.
15:48 < DrPraetor> Followers of Simptipus need to get they *own* money.
15:48 < dpeg> Have fun all, I better leave now. Linley, make sure to check 0.4 out when it's there. Bye!
15:48 < DrPraetor> It'd be pretty good for **En, but I think Sif would still be better.
15:48 < raxvulpine> Bye dpeg :)
15:49 < zergloli> Simptimus could send you hounds, wolves and jackals.
15:49 < LinleyH> bye dpeg!
15:49 < Anym> Bye dpeg.
15:49 < zergloli> Because you need bitches to get the gold.
15:49 < kats2> well, here's the deal with wielding cards under Nem - you do have to wield them, but the 1st or 2nd ability Nem gives you is to draw from decks in inventory
15:49 < Gretell> maniac (L9 SpWr) entered the Lair of Beasts. (Lair:1)
15:50 < raxvulpine> Iainuki: You are using evocations like whoah, awesome.
15:50 < Anym> Which makes the Bloodlust card (among others) much, much better.
15:50 < kats2> using other card manipulation abilities like Triple Draw and Stack Deck require the deck to be wielded
15:50 < jarpiain> doesn't Bloodlust give you one turn to swap weapons in any case?
15:50 < Iainuki> raxvulpine: :)  A rod of venom on D:4 makes a trollich's early life *so* much easier.
15:50 < raxvulpine> I especially like the hydra-poisoning.
15:50 < kats2> if Bloodlust doesn't, it should, because The Blade does
15:50 < zergloli> Rod of Venom?
15:51 < zergloli> That give you Arrow of Venom or something?
15:51 < raxvulpine> Yeah.
15:51 < ekiM> oh, shuffle, I see
15:51 < ekiM> sneaky!
15:52 < ekiM> does "rainbow" mean yougained piety?
15:53 < passing_lunatic> ??spatial vortex
15:53 < Henzell> spatial vortex[1/1]: The fabric of the space-time continuum has folded upon itself and is flailing around wildly! Can be caused by Xom, and miscast effects. They also have a distortion effect on attack.
15:53 < Iainuki> ekiM: It's always rainbow, but I think it's "faint" or something like that if you didn't gain piety.
15:53 < passing_lunatic> @?spatial vortex
15:53 < Gretell> Spatial vortex - Speed: 15 - Health: 36-72 - AC/EV: 0/5 - Damage: 30(distort) - Flags: non-living - Res: magic(immune), fire, cold, electricity, poison.
15:53 < Anym> Oh, I'm not completely sure. I just remembered beating stuff to death with a berserked dwarf wielding a deck of cards.
15:54 < Zaba> hahaha
15:54 < jarpiain> it's still d10 damage from Might
15:54 < ekiM> furious papercuts
15:55 < raxvulpine> Read Or Die!
15:55 < Leissi> oh god
15:55 < Leissi> looking at a trunk game
15:55 < Leissi> what a horrible ui
15:55 < raxvulpine> Really? *looks*
15:56 < Leissi> or hud
15:56 < Leissi> whatever you want it to be
15:56 < violetj> Nemelex should totally incorporate Read or Die style paper-user effects.
15:56 < raxvulpine> I like the monster display. I would turn off the bars.
15:56 < Leissi> to me it seems a bit crunched together
15:57 < Iainuki> violetj: That would be awesome!
15:57 < Napkin> dpeg, found info about PCRE in the INSTALL docs, no need to distract johanna ;)
15:58 < Anym> I stand by my claim that calling Crawl's UI and HUD is inapropriate.
15:58 < Keskitalo> I'm with Anym on good/evil.
15:58 < Anym> Even if Crawl *is* a flight simulator.
15:58 < Zaba> crawl is a FPS
15:58 < ekiM> throw your head up high and blow your brains out
16:02 < Henzell> Iaido the Nimble (L15 TrFi) found a decaying rune of Zot. (Swamp:5)
16:06 < Iainuki> Ok, that's about as much Swamp as I can stand right at the moment, I think.
16:07 < raxvulpine> You got the rune, that's the important part.
16:08 < Iainuki> Ok, I wasted one acquirement already trying to get Necromancy--do I dare do it again?  Necromancy is definitely my highest magic skill, I have no idea why it did Control instead.
16:08 < ekiM> I did it without PR earlier
16:08 < ekiM> do not. want.
16:08 < jarpiain> Necro and Evoc are tied
16:08 < ekiM> then boris showed up
16:08 < jarpiain> you get Necro books if Necro reached level 5 first
16:08 < DrPraetor> Arrow of Venom poisons poison-immune monsters?
16:08 < DrPraetor> ??arrow of venom
16:08 < Henzell> I don't have a page labeled arrow_of_venom in my learndb.
16:09 < jarpiain> ??poison arrow
16:09 < Henzell> I don't have a page labeled poison_arrow in my learndb.
16:09 < DrPraetor> ??venom arrow
16:09 < Henzell> I don't have a page labeled venom_arrow in my learndb.
16:09 < raxvulpine> It's only partially resistable. 
16:09 < Iainuki> jarpiain: Oh, evocations affects books, too?  *Dumb*.
16:09 < jarpiain> yes, Evoc and Invoc give same books as Spellcasting
16:09 < jarpiain> looks like an oversight, it's the default: part of a switch statement
16:09 < DrPraetor> Even by non-living targets? I notced that it was only partially resistable *by me*, I assumed that monsters wouldn't have that problem.
16:09 < ekiM> aren't you worried about a jelly eating all your shit
16:10 < raxvulpine> Wooo Necromancy!
16:10 < Iainuki> jarpiain: Ah, I missed the fall-through.
16:10 < Iainuki> Yes indeed :).
16:10 < DrPraetor> Piety 120 - Gifts from Tsu Muna. Tsu Muna's gifts are mostly
16:10 < DrPraetor> magic-wielding animal familiars.
16:10 < DrPraetor> Sorry, wrong window.
16:11 < LinleyH> Well, nice to meet you all!
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16:12 < ekiM> HAIL
16:12 < Anym> OK, fan girls, now you can get crazy!
16:12  * Iainuki squeals.
16:12 < raxvulpine> Xomg!!
16:12 < DrPraetor> OMG he was like so hawt?
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16:12 < lorimer> Xom g?  :)
16:13 < raxvulpine> "it was everything I dreamed it would be and more"